AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

Does anybody have an idea what's going on with Locke funding? I am still positive we haven't heard anything as management has something on the burner meaning we won't need the funding.

That sounds like an old fishwives tale to me

 

[wombat74]

It's just me making an assumption.

If we are about to go into 2 years of legal battles we will need the cash on hand. If however, with the formation of the new government dialogue has opened back up and there may be the chance of a negotiated outcome we wouldn't need Locke's funding.

Locke completed their DD . Which means they will proceed . One would think if we are completely screwed without Locke $$$$ then no matter what the terms and conditions are Nigel is going to accept it . So with that in mind either Nigel/Locke are currently finalizing terms/conditions OR
Nigel has a better option other than Locke . imo

 

[Azzler]

Does anybody have an idea what's going on with Locke funding? I am still positive we haven't heard anything as management has something on the burner meaning we won't need the funding.

Apart from speculation we can only rely on the news we have.
Locke have finished their DD and the two parties were ready to move forward with establishing terms of the agreement.

The extension was in regards to the DD period as they stated there was some more issues they wanted to look at or resolve.
And that DD was finalised before the extention period ended.

Who's to say how long it will be before we hear something, we don't know whats going on, but as far as funding from Locke, we passed their intensive scrutiny, and to me that says the money's there whe we need it.

 

[Winenut]

Locke completed their DD . Which means they will proceed . One would think if we are completely screwed without Locke $$$$ then no matter what the terms and conditions are Nigel is going to accept it . So with that in mind either Nigel/Locke are currently finalizing terms/conditions OR
Nigel has a better option other than Locke . imo

Completing DD does not mean they will proceed

Completing DD is the process of gathering all the available information to make an informed decision as to whether "to proceed" or...... "not"

 

[Dave Evans]

The international justice system seems to agree that AVZ have good legal title to what they claim they own.
As do AVZ's lawyers.
As laymens, we can look at the merits of the claims, such as the sale by Dathomir, of which all conditions were met and therefore complete.
That means legal ownership of 75% despite what others claim.

So @RHyNO you claim this is 1 of 2 "blatant lies told to shareholders"
You seem to have some knowledge about this that no one else does to call it a lie, can you elaborate what this information is please?

And the second "blatant lie" ties in with the first, but applies to the sale from Cominiere to Zijin.
Again, the international legal system so far seems to agree that the sale was illegal and had no merit, therefore is "spurious in nature", which also applies to Dathomirs claims to have cancelled the sale, when all legal conditions had already been met.

So can you explain how this was also a lie?

Otherwise would you care to retract your slanderous accusations toward the BoD?

I have RHyNO on ignore @Azzler so I don’t read his posts, but we can see shane (der goose) eastwood is still here every day reading his comments.

As a reminder, eastwood made massive profits trading AVZ. He sold out and then bought back in, and because of the corruption AVZ has been fighting he got caught with his pants down.

After making huge profits, I don’t know if he bought back in or borrowed shares to short AVZ and got caught by the suspension, but a couple of things are evident.

He couldn’t pay his taxes on all the profits he made and he has collaborated with simon cong, tommy the turd and dudbrook.

He is bent on disrupting our legal challenges (all of which we have won to date), supporting dudbrook (which means supporting kibeya, cominiere and zijin) and even going as far as acquiring the shareholder register from Automic with the intention of illegally providing shareholders email addresses and colluding to use those addresses to make illegal unsolicited offers of $0.001 a share.

These actions have also helped those short sellers who borrowed shares to short AVZ. I’m constantly surprised by shareholders who post negative comments in a way that just provides ammunition to people like der goose, dudbrook, kibeya etc.

I can only imagine that those shareholders want to totally destroy the value of our shares to the level of the offers made by jamie mitchell (of $0.001) before the ICC and ICSID get the chance to award us the damages we seek in the billions of dollars.

I view shane (der goose) eastwood’s actions as nothing more than a distraction ahead of the 2024 DRC MINING WEEK event running next week.

For my part, I’m going to continue to provide information on the corruption to potential investors at this event who might end up finding themselves in a similar situation to us if the DRC continues to violate its own Mining Code along with the International Arbitration orders of the ICC and ICSID.

Anyone wanting to use the information in the thread linked below to inform these potential investors on Facebook, Twitter or LinkedIn feel free to copy and paste my notes from the DRC MINING WEEK thread

DRC MINING WEEK 2024

Warning International miners and investors be warned before investing in the DRC Mining and Battery Minerals sectors. The DRC doesn’t follow its own Mining Code and also doesn’t abide by International Arbitration orders, including those by the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) and the...

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[ChillaM]

AJN is coming up now as a distraction. Don’t get dragged into a shit and useless argument that detracts from AVZ and the main issue of Zijin and complicit corruption from DRC individuals in power who have blocked Manono for more than 2 years!!!!!

I guess AJN will be dealing with the same corrupt MoM officials - good luck to them

 

[Xerof]

A shout-out to the voyeurs who selectively repost matters that suit their agenda and those encouraging people to spill beans on a public forum

to the owl, the goose, Ty me Kangaroo, and fuckface

 

[Azzler]

Remember when Boatman was quoting Tommy and Tommy was quoting Boatman?

Just another game of the con artist, like Geist quoting Rhyno as if it's some credible source!
What a joke.
I've even seen Geist quoting Geist in the past, from one account to the next.
Or making a post on HC, then refering to said post on his other account, as "Published material" LOL.

Keep pissing into the wind Shane, it's hilarious.

 

[Azzler]

Azzler is the smartest man on earth!
And the most charming.

 

[Azzler]

Azzler is the smartest man on earth!
And the most charming.

Published information reveals worlds smartest and most charming man alive!
Behold!

 

[Spikerama]

Here’s an interesting article on combating coordinated disinformation. Might be something in here for each of us.

I particularly liked the reference to the “Streisand Effect” Never heard of that one before.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06...nda-disinformation-australian-media/103927386

 

[Dazmac66]

Remember when Boatman was quoting Tommy and Tommy was quoting Boatman?

Just another game of the con artist, like Geist quoting Rhyno as if it's some credible source!
What a joke.
I've even seen Geist quoting Geist in the past, from one account to the next.
Or making a post on HC, then refering to said post on his other account, as "Published material" LOL.

Keep pissing into the wind Shane, it's hilarious.

Yeah I gave the fuckwit a serve on X and he burred up!

 

[RHyNO]

Ugh I can’t believe that

Remember when Boatman was quoting Tommy and Tommy was quoting Boatman?

Just another game of the con artist, like Geist quoting Rhyno as if it's some credible source!
What a joke.
I've even seen Geist quoting Geist in the past, from one account to the next.
Or making a post on HC, then refering to said post on his other account, as "Published material" LOL.

Keep pissing into the wind Shane, it's hilarious.

To be clear! I am not a credible source! Just here for the discussions.

 

[wombat74]

Completing DD does not mean they will proceed

Completing DD is the process of gathering all the available information to make an informed decision as to whether "to proceed" or...... "not"

"If Locke determines, on the basis of its due diligence, that it will not proceed with the Transaction it must immediately terminate this Term Sheet ."

AVZ announced on April 30th that Locke had completed it's DD . Either Locke still in play or Nigel has back up .imo

 

[RHyNO]

Nice one Azzler, excellent questions.
1. Good legal title, it’s an interesting statement isn’t it, the legal and political system under which we are operating in the DRC certainly don’t seem to think our legal title is good, they seem to think it is weak and therefor they are happy to ignore it. So while the “international justice system” - a non existent fantasy entity you’ve referenced here is somehow on our side. The legal system under which we are operating does not agree. Now I’m not suggesting they’re right. I agree they are corrupted. I’m suggesting simply that for legal title to be “good” it must be good in our particular jurisdiction and I’m sure you can agree that it is infact not.

2. Spurious in nature, again tough one. Again you’ve mentioned the fantasy international legal system, which to be clear does not exist. The term spurious implies that statements made are “not genuine or authentic” - Webster. Now let’s look at these non genuine statements. The statements are that zinjin have legal title over sections of the mine. Now if these statements are not genuine, again to be clear in the context of actual fact not “international legal system” then how do they now have rights to mine what was once our tenement, which we paid to JORC.

I’m not suggesting that we vote Nigel out, I suggest we turn up the heat and stop blaming everyone else for what seems to me to be the fuck up of one arrogant man who should work hard to regain the trust of those of us paying for him.

Klaus is a wanker right, but he knows how to play it over there, and he’s called Nigel out for his lack of engagement with the local government. And his absence from the DRC. So while I appreciate your question and love the idea of this fantasy legal system overseeing all international trade run by I assume Batman and Wonder Woman. I’m going to hold my ground and say Nigel is on the shitlist and needs to pick up his fucking feet and get this situation sorted. And no I don’t see giving a bunch of abulance chasing lawyers 20million in promises as an action of any value other than ass covering.

Yeah Dave also hates facts! Hates them! Like a racist sherif at a basketball game.

 

[RHyNO]

Go buy a car. Then someone steals it.
Did you still legally buy the car?

Using this analogy which does not apply considering the complexity. You actually buy the car from a dodgy provider then leave it in the lot for years without going over there, then they resell it to another person and you show up after 2 years after paying yourself handsomely by showing everyone pictures
Of it. To find it was sold by the dodgy provider. You then pay yourself a bonus.

 

[Azzler]

...So while the “international justice system” - a non existent fantasy entity you’ve referenced here is somehow on our side. The legal system under which we are operating does not agree. ...

2. Spurious in nature, again tough one. Again you’ve mentioned the fantasy international legal system, which to be clear does not exist. The term spurious implies that statements made are “not genuine or authentic” - Webster. Now let’s look at these non genuine statements. The statements are that zinjin have legal title over sections of the mine. Now if these statements are not genuine, again to be clear in the context of actual fact not “international legal system” then how do they now have rights to mine what was once our tenement...

,... I suggest we turn up the heat and stop blaming everyone else ...

Klaus is a wanker right, but he knows how to play it over there, ... And no I don’t see giving a bunch of abulance chasing lawyers 20million in promises as an action of any value other than ass covering.

I think you'll find there is a very real interntional justice system, one that I did not make up as a fantasy in my head.

Not "somehow" on our side, but based in the LAW it is on our side, it's not mysterious.

The DRC are signatories to these systems of law, that is to say, within the DRC law, they have agreed to be subject to the law and rulings of these interantional systems. And by this law Nigel, and the BoD have based their actions, reports and beliefs.
So the legal system DOES agree, but so far they have not been following that system.

Again you claim there is no international legal system, that it's a fantasy I made up, are you for real?

Zijin have apparent rights granted against what the law states, this is because corrupt entities have acted unlawfully, it's all very well documented and I'm 100% sure you know about this.
The statement of it being spurious was in reference to law, which it is.
Nigel can't be blamed for the law not being followed or enforced.

If I tell everyone that your car is in fact my car, and you tell everyone that it's not true, then I steal your car... well that makes you a liar according to you, because I have the car now.

So you're aware that the plan of those seeking to steal Manono is to turn shareholders against the BoD so they can be voted out in favor of people who will gift it to the chinese, and they're playing a long psy-ops campaign to trash Nigel and team?
Knowing this you think the best course of action is to "turn up the heat" and put more blame onto Nigel?
"Stop blaming everyone else"... so in other words stop blaming the people who acted on bribes against the law to block us?

I see you have favorable opinions on Klaus.

And lastly, I see you are against persuing our legal rights, and want to drop our legal action against the detractors?
The very same goals as MMGA again?

I think everyone here can draw their own conclusions from this.

 

[Hudnut]

I guess AJN will be dealing with the same corrupt MoM officials - good luck to them

Only a problem if you don't hand out paper bags.

 

[Thaz]

Using this analogy which does not apply considering the complexity. You actually buy the car from a dodgy provider then leave it in the lot for years without going over there, then they resell it to another person and you show up after 2 years after paying yourself handsomely by showing everyone pictures
Of it. To find it was sold by the dodgy provider. You then pay yourself a bonus.

This, also does not apply to the current situation..

the car is not fixed to lot.

The Mine is fixed to the land / area that it resides in.

A better example would be if you had proper legal title over a house and land. and then that same seller tried to sell this same land to another purchaser, due to bribes received. It doesn't matter if you visited the house or not .. you still own the house and land.

That said, not sure why we are talking about cars and hypotheticals .. we have the real deal here.

 

[Stockinvesting]

Hi everyone. Does anyone know when the next court results are due please?

I've totally lost track.

Cheers.