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Dazmac66

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It would be an interesting exercise to work out the opportunity cost to the Australian government in capital gains tax if the Chinese were to steal Manono. Would have to be close to a billion dollars at current price and much more at the all time high. $20 million is just a few cabbage leaves in comparison to the potential gains for the ATO!!
 
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It would be an interesting exercise to work out the opportunity cost to the Australian government in capital gains tax if the Chinese were to steal Manono. Would have to be close to a billion dollars at current price and much more at the all time high. $20 million is just a few cabbage leaves in comparison to the potential gains for the ATO!!
That's a really fucking good point, I hadn't even considered how huge it would be in tax revenue.
 
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It would be an interesting exercise to work out the opportunity cost to the Australian government in capital gains tax if the Chinese were to steal Manono. Would have to be close to a billion dollars at current price and much more at the all time high. $20 million is just a few cabbage leaves in comparison to the potential gains for the ATO!!
However, I'm fairly confident funding is already sorted, with multiple options.
 
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However, I'm fairly confident funding is already sorted, with multiple options.
Agreed and admire your confidence. Well if the funding is sorted maybe the government can contribute with some visible, impactful diplomatic support for their potential hundreds of millions in tax revenue.
Did anyone get a response back from 60 minutes, 4 corners or Pauline Hanson etc.. I have emailed many of the media organisations and heard crickets. Baffling!
 
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Agreed and admire your confidence. Well if the funding is sorted maybe the government can contribute with some visible, impactful diplomatic support for their potential hundreds of millions in tax revenue.
Did anyone get a response back from 60 minutes, 4 corners or Pauline Hanson etc.. I have emailed many of the media organisations and heard crickets. Baffling!
I got a response back from my mate I texted about the situation.
He said, "Maaaaaaaate that's a bunch of fucking bullshit hey."
 
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I got a response back from my mate I texted about the situation.
He said, "Maaaaaaaate that's a bunch of fucking bullshit hey."
I sent my mate the matt birney article and he couldn't make sense of it. The guy is a data scientist too, smart guy.

Looks like the normal person who hasn't heard of AVZ may not understand what's gone on even in a well written article. Maybe why news outlets haven't touched it??
 
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I sent my mate the matt birney article and he couldn't make sense of it. The guy is a data scientist too, smart guy.

Looks like the normal person who hasn't heard of AVZ may not understand what's gone on even in a well written article. Maybe why news outlets haven't touched it??
I sent it to my partner (PhD in finance). Said it was well written and an amazing story. Then she said if we'd met before suspension she would have said 'Stay away. Very far away from the DRC'. She is from Botswana though.......
 
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That's a really fucking good point, I hadn't even considered how huge it would be in tax revenue.

CGT is the tip of the iceberg.

The tax revenue from AVZ is in sales mode would be a significant boost to Australia.
 
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Flight996

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Why?... this is to protect an asset critical to the western World. I don't know what the criteria is for access to these funds, but if this fiasco has the profile that is alleged on the world stage, then a $4b critical minerals warchest surely could fund a $20m litigation fund.
Mate, unfortunately the federal government is risk averse to the extreme when assessing the merits of a proposal. Key criteria (amongst many) are financial risk, value for tax-payers' money and the potential for reputational damage.

Unfortunately, despite its overwhelming size and quality of its assets, AVZ does not get past first base.

Cheers
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Panther22

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People keep saying that, but it assumes they GAF.

As long as their personal pockets are lined, the rest of the country can continue to suffer.
It is in the DNA of those that are in a position to receive and accept bribes/ corruption but accepted by those that aren't.
Thankfully we have some DRC locals who are pushing back on this but l feel it is like pushing waves back into the ocean.
 
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It would be an interesting exercise to work out the opportunity cost to the Australian government in capital gains tax if the Chinese were to steal Manono. Would have to be close to a billion dollars at current price and much more at the all time high. $20 million is just a few cabbage leaves in comparison to the potential gains for the ATO!!
No way in the wide World would our soft cock “Pretty Boy” PM do anything to upset his Chinese buddy Xi …wouldn't even shirt front him over the Chinese sonar attack on our Navy Divers …just skip Australian Government support
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Cumquat Cap

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USA and EU are out support vessels, Aus govt has no leverage given no trade volume with DRC. World bank and EU applying a lot of pressure I believe
 
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Formation of government: moral probity, one of the criteria for selecting ministers

The Prime Minister, Judith Suminwa Tuluka, spoke this Wednesday, April 17 in the morning with the delegation of the political group Aabg (Audible Actions for Good Governance) as part of the consultations she began last Monday with a view to the formation of his government.

The discussions revolved around the selection criteria for future members of the government.

On this point, the Prime Minister insisted on the moral probity of future members of the national executive.

These must be impeccable.

“Beyond the government program, we also spoke about the profile, she alluded to the criteria for ministers, there is moral probity, expertise as well as several others.

But she is absolutely right.


We are the DRC, a country with a continental dimension.

The friends who are supposed to represent the government of the Republic tomorrow must not only have expertise, but also be impeccable in terms of morality,” declared Toussaint Mangala, Aabg national president.

Probity is a quality that is difficult to find among Congolese political actors.

Several of them are regularly cited in corruption and other cases.

Action of Allies for the Development of Congo (Aaec), Alliance for Triples and Allies (A3A), Alliance for Values (AV), AUN (Action for National Unity), Fpau (Political Force Allied to the Udps ), ATU-A (Alliance of Unified and Allied Tshisekedists), are the groupings of the presidential majority that the Prime Minister is consulting this Wednesday.


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So if Adele, Antoinette, guy, Julien are back we know Judith is talking out of her ass
 
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So if Adele, Antoinette, guy, Julien are back we know Judith is talking out of her ass
Let us hope Judith is true to her word and doesn't fall into the trap.
 
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Let us hope Judith is true to her word and doesn't fall into the trap.
I bet she's licking her greedy lips after being appointed prime position on the gravy train :LOL:
Fucking scumbags...
 
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And from the crapper...

Morningsuits5 = Ty Dudbrook from Puerto Rico

The guy who didn't stay for drinkies after the AGM

Maybe one of Carlos' Gringos 🤣🤣🤣
It took a week and this is all he could come up with. Articles 18.3 and 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA are very clear. So morningsuits, if you're listening, you can drop the 'owned' nonsense too.

They're not sending their best

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lellep

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Found this video from 2 months ago featuring Klaus Eckhof from AJN . Nowhere does he mention AVZ but he mentions previous activities in the area where Tin and Lithium has been found.

 
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Mute22

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I am so tired of these idiots in cheap suits and party-shop hard hats playing at running a legitimate operation.

It's pathetic that they push a bob cat through a field and call a press conference for it with their Chinese handlers looming over them.

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