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Azzler

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Anyway, if true, it's huge leverage against the DRC at arbitration.
Not that we really need more, it's a slam dunk already.
 
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Dazmac66

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Anyway, if true, it's huge leverage against the DRC at arbitration.
Not that we really need more, it's a slam dunk already.
Azz, don't expect the DRC to be swayed or embarrassed by this in any way - you will only be disappointed. Work on the premiss that they don't give a flying F#ck what the west thinks about them!!
 
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Azzler

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Azz, don't expect the DRC to be swayed or embarrassed by this in any way - you will only be disappointed. Work on the premiss that they don't give a flying F#ck what the west thinks about them!!
I said in arbitration.
I expect there will be serious ramifications from this, if true, regardless if the DRC are embarressed or not.
 
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SilentOne

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Hi Azzler,

My opinion is that you are correct. There are serious ramification in the DRC ignoring the ICC and especially the ICSID.

The DRC have been wanting to get off the Treasury Grey List, and that there are very serious potential consequence of the DRC ignoring the directions/rulings of the ICSID - keeping in mind that the ICSID is affiliated with the World Bank which is apparently holding back $1 Billion +.

I dont believe that it is particularly difficult to flag consistent illegal activity that have been facilitated by bad actors against both Dathcom and AVZ. My opinion is that fighting this out in the International Courts/Tribunals will serve shareholders well.

If Sin Bin and Commiere want these cases shut down before any severe adverse judgements are potentially reached - they would be best to offer a very good price to buy AVZ shares in Dathcom.

I am more than happy to have this play out to the end - however I would prefer this sorted sooner than later. And no, you don't want Sin Bin or any other Chinese company anywhere near Manono as they are likely to continue to be an unnecessary distraction.


Regards,

SilentOne




I said in arbitration.
I expect there will be serious ramifications from this, if true, regardless if the DRC are embarressed or not.
 
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Frank

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Zijin Mining have donated 70M USD to Cominiere for “humanitarian aid”🤡
Not a donatation but forwarding funds to pay out the interim penalties 😂
 
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wombat74

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Hi Azzler,

My opinion is that you are correct. There are serious ramification in the DRC ignoring the ICC and especially the ICSID.

The DRC have been wanting to get off the Treasury Grey List, and that there are very serious potential consequence of the DRC ignoring the directions/rulings of the ICSID - keeping in mind that the ICSID is affiliated with the World Bank which is apparently holding back $1 Billion +.

I dont believe that it is particularly difficult to flag consistent illegal activity that have been facilitated by bad actors against both Dathcom and AVZ. My opinion is that fighting this out in the International Courts/Tribunals will serve shareholders well.

If Sin Bin and Commiere want these cases shut down before any severe adverse judgements are potentially reached - they would be best to offer a very good price to buy AVZ shares in Dathcom.

I am more than happy to have this play out to the end - however I would prefer this sorted sooner than later. And no, you don't want Sin Bin or any other Chinese company anywhere near Manono as they are likely to continue to be an unnecessary distraction.


Regards,

SilentOne
"I am more than happy to have this play out to the end. "

That's OK if you are a relatively young person . For some of us older fogey Mother Nature may have tapped us on the shoulder by then .
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Finance minister Kazadi in Washington discussing the DRC budget - I’m sure the Manono lithium mine was discussed during this meeting at length. Kazadi posted this to his personal twitter not long after
 

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SilentOne

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"I am more than happy to have this play out to the end. "

That's OK if you are a relatively young person . For some of us older fogey Mother Nature may have tapped us on the shoulder by then .
Wombat,

I will finish the quote in its entirety: "I am more than happy to have this play out to the end - however I would prefer this sorted sooner than later."

Regards,

SilentOne
 
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JasonM

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Finance minister Kazadi in Washington discussing the DRC budget - I’m sure the Manono lithium mine was discussed during this meeting at length. Kazadi posted this to his personal twitter not long after
nice words in his twitter feed but I'm so sick of all these pricks talking so much crap and not actually doing anything other than accepting more brown bags. Is this time different, lets see but feels like we've heard all this before.

btw thanks for posting
 
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Scoota30

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Finance minister Kazadi in Washington discussing the DRC budget - I’m sure the Manono lithium mine was discussed during this meeting at length. Kazadi posted this to his personal twitter not long after
Probably took more effort to write that post than it would to follow the ICSID interim order and update the CAMI portal. Always lots of words but no action to be seen, still waiting...
Sleep Yawn GIF
 
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Cumquat Cap

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$1B withheld aid package might pique one of those dumb greedy fucks attention
 
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Hudnut

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$1B withheld aid package might pique one of those dumb greedy fucks attention

People keep saying that, but it assumes they GAF.

As long as their personal pockets are lined, the rest of the country can continue to suffer.
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Yeah I feel ya, who knows sadly
 
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Samus

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Azz, don't expect the DRC to be swayed or embarrassed by this in any way - you will only be disappointed. Work on the premiss that they don't give a flying F#ck what the west thinks about them!!
I'd say DRC officials could'nt give a fuck about anything other than their own personal gains and they could'nt give a fuck about what it costs their own image, people or country either. Ths is the norm for these criminals.
We've yet to see anything that proves otherwise, hopefully ICSID and the threat of losing billions that they can steal puts the squeeze on them...
Pity it takes so fucking long.
 
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mikejoho

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Re: finance , I see RNU secured a $185 mil loan from the 'Australian Govt $4B Critical minerals facility'. Surely AVZ's short term cash requirements would qualify for a loan here if needed.

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Bray

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Not a chance aus gov is gonna commit money to blood sucking scumbag country of drc even if its an aussie operation.. stuck in suspension... for years...
 
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mikejoho

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Not a chance aus gov is gonna commit money to blood sucking scumbag country of drc even if its an aussie operation.. stuck in suspension... for years...
Why?... this is to protect an asset critical to the western World. I don't know what the criteria is for access to these funds, but if this fiasco has the profile that is alleged on the world stage, then a $4b critical minerals warchest surely could fund a $20m litigation fund.
 
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CHB

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Why?... this is to protect an asset critical to the western World. I don't know what the criteria is for access to these funds, but if this fiasco has the profile that is alleged on the world stage, then a $4b critical minerals warchest surely could fund a $20m litigation fund.
Pro tip, Google their website. To know the criteria.
 
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