AVZ Discussion 2022

[cruiser51]

So..... Anyone have any timelines on Cabinet forming?

Ask FT, if he can't give you an answer, you have Buckley's to find the answer here.

On another very interesting note, I did read somewhere that FT and MoM did not issue one single new mining exploitation permit during their first term in power.

They probably think lithium in the ground is money in the bank, just sit on it, have a barbie and dance around the campfire, while drinking copious amounts of homebrew is the way to go.

 

[Winenut]

ICSID - “you owe..”

DRC -

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Go Nige!!!

Go AVZ!!!!!

 

[Pokok]

I did not bother to read the announcement but I did print it out so I can wipe my ass with it later

 

[Chase]

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Well that sounds fucked

 

[RHyNO]

Not sure seeking payment of fines is a back up plan if Locke pull out . If fines are enforceable Locke shouldn't have an issue lending us the money . Which tells me if Locke decline we are up sh1t creek . So Nigel better have a back up plan if Locke pulls out because the $$$ won't be coming from fines .

Nigel’s back up plan is to change his name and become the ceo of AJN

 

[Misfits]

And to top the day off. It sounds like the green witch has been retained.

 

[TDITD]

Nothing is moving or has been moving because of the current corrupt fuckwits that are infesting the DRC Government, irrespective of AVZs favourable rulings so far, indicating to anyone with two brain-cells to rub together that AVZ are in-fact going to be successful if arbitration is required to run its full course. (Something both sides would surely not want)

Thanks to the ICSID ruling and the corrupt cretins stupidity AVZ are able to apply for penalties adding to their leverage when the new Government cabinet is announced.

Once the new cabinet is in, then all eyes are on the new ministers to come to the table and negotiate something worthwhile in AVZs favour.

Don't forget that the Chinese have also been talking to AVZ, with each passing arbitration ruling in AVZs favour AVZ becomes more and more expensive, as by the way does it with the rising lithium prices. I do hope this is being made abundantly clear to these utter cunts.

 

[Bray]

Do you actually believe a new cabinet will fix the issue? The new persons who may or may not be corrupt will be invited into their little circle of brown paper bags, hence why the country has been a shithole for over 100 years

 

[BRICK]

Probably more like this.....

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Fucking ikea

 

[MoneyBags1348]

At least we've got some form of communication.

Seems like the closest possible information is the Jin Cheng dispute tribunal results, which AVZ is also waiting for. Hopefully they push that out the moment they get them.

Can anyone clarify if these soon-to-be-disclosed results will affect many of the other cases? Or is this dispute fairly null and void now that "Manono Lithium" has been formed to take over the project and is attempting to push out AVZ?

Lastly, since they have my money and I can't do anything about it - I can only look for positives. From what I see the positives are:

1. Jin Cheng dispute results "imminent" (lol).
2. Dathomir indicating they will withdraw their application to wind-up Dathcom on the 25th March.
3. The small, perhaps unfounded, hope that the new DRC cabinet will be more open and willing to negotiate with AVZ. (Anyone know when the cabinet will likely be formed?)
4. Awaiting tribunal results for 2019 SPA proceedings against Dathomir.

That's what I've taken out of it.

The Jin Cheng dispute results WILL have a major effect on the other cases.

TITS posted a link to jusmundi.com that had transcript’s of some of the arbitration cases so far. Anyone who read them would understand why AVZ doesn’t announce monthly updates to shareholders.

Aside from that a lot of the ICC and ICSID information is confidential.

Some investors have never stopped keeping up to date with events but don’t post anymore because of the wombats here complaining but never offering any information themselves.

Maybe the best thing for them would be ringing Math, Huljich or Carrotdick and offering them their shares because they’re whining is no help to the company or other shareholders.

 

[Charbella]

ICDIS is pissed! Let's see if the gringos are going to flex some muscles. I agree that China is playing the long game. The question is, who will blink first?
Based on the recent influx of negativity, it's evident that tensions are escalating on our side.

The DRC has not yet complied with the Interim Orders. In its comments, the DRC presented new arguments directed to achieving a cancellation of the Interim Orders (rather than provide comments on their implementation).

The ICSID tribunal has responded by reminding the DRC that it is bound by the Interim Orders and indicating that it will, in due course, draw the appropriate conclusions from any failure to comply with the Interim Orders. The ICSID tribunal also invited AVZI, GLH and Dathcom to provide submissions as to the basis upon which they contend they are entitled to be paid penalties in respect of any failure to comply with the Interim Orders.

 

[BRICK]

These DRC turkeys started off so hot a few years ago with all the battery hub spruiking and conferences and worldwide junkets. Now.. nothing.
Like a massive Nigerian scam.
Oh well, when you’ve fucked everything and ripped everyone off, the only thing left to do is to go to war with your neighbors. Lol

Giddy up because we are in for the long haul but we will come out on top someday in the next few years. Can’t ignore ICSID forever because no one will ever do business with you.

 

[Bray]

I know my frustrations are coming out in these posts BUT this link is worth reading through, actually quite interesting

Africa’s track record in ICSID proceedings - Kluwer Arbitration Blog

On 18 April 2012, South Sudan signed and ratified the 1965 Convention on the Settlement of Investment Disputes between States and Nationals of Other States (the ‘ICSID Convention’). In accordance with Article 68(2) thereof, the Convention entered into force for Sudan thirty days later, i.e. on...

arbitrationblog.kluwerarbitration.com

 

[Pedro]

The Jin Cheng dispute results WILL have a major effect on the other cases.

TITS posted a link to jusmundi.com that had transcript’s of some of the arbitration cases so far. Anyone who read them would understand why AVZ doesn’t announce monthly updates to shareholders.

Aside from that a lot of the ICC and ICSID information is confidential.

Some investors have never stopped keeping up to date with events but don’t post anymore because of the wombats here complaining but never offering any information themselves.

Maybe the best thing for them would be ringing Math, Huljich or Carrotdick and offering them their shares because they’re whining is no help to the company or other shareholders.

Well said bags, a bit of positivity is always good for us glass half full guys. Unless it's bad news why all the wingeing, we're all over this shit show. Nothing has actually change there's still light at the end of the tunnel it's just these fuckers are extending the tunnel. Chill

 

[Hemicuda]

I know my frustrations are coming out in these posts BUT this link is worth reading through, actually quite interesting

Africa’s track record in ICSID proceedings - Kluwer Arbitration Blog

On 18 April 2012, South Sudan signed and ratified the 1965 Convention on the Settlement of Investment Disputes between States and Nationals of Other States (the ‘ICSID Convention’). In accordance with Article 68(2) thereof, the Convention entered into force for Sudan thirty days later, i.e. on...

arbitrationblog.kluwerarbitration.com

The only thing worse then this dogshit no announcement announcement, is having to read what old holier then thou MB thinks, give the god syndrome a rest mate, it’s fucking old

 

[tonster66]

What a fucking mess. DRC not playing ball at all.

I think the first thing that the ann refers to is that the DRC cannot do anything until the cabinet is formed. Lets wait and see what that brings. We can live in hope

 

[Bray]

The only thing worse then this dogshit no announcement announcement, is having to read what old holier then thou MB thinks, give the god syndrome a rest mate, it’s fucking old

Misquoted or what mate

 

[CHB]

I think the first thing that the ann refers to is that the DRC cannot do anything until the cabinet is formed. Lets wait and see what that brings. We can live in hope

It can't abide by legal instructions? Need ministers to abide by legal judgements?

Sounds a bit farfetched imo

 

[Azzler]

The only thing worse then this dogshit no announcement announcement, is having to read what old holier then thou MB thinks, give the god syndrome a rest mate, it’s fucking old

Mate your drivel lately is as old as your mum. Maybe you should give it a rest?

 

[Stockinvesting]

Nothing is moving or has been moving because of the current corrupt fuckwits that are infesting the DRC Government, irrespective of AVZs favourable rulings so far, indicating to anyone with two brain-cells to rub together that AVZ are in-fact going to be successful if arbitration is required to run its full course. (Something both sides would surely not want)

Thanks to the ICSID ruling and the corrupt cretins stupidity AVZ are able to apply for penalties adding to their leverage when the new Government cabinet is announced.

Once the new cabinet is in, then all eyes are on the new ministers to come to the table and negotiate something worthwhile in AVZs favour.

Don't forget that the Chinese have also been talking to AVZ, with each passing arbitration ruling in AVZs favour AVZ becomes more and more expensive, as by the way does it with the rising lithium prices. I do hope this is being made abundantly clear to these utter cunts.

Bloody well said. Bravo.