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Samus

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Ahh yep i see he's post,

Surely you cannot commit to below

Approval of early works program to maintain project timetable pending award of Mining Licence "TICK" ish

• Extension drilling program approved at Roche Dure, targeting potential expansion of JORC reserves

Manono Project continues to receive wide ranging Government support for all outstanding permitting and licencing requirements
• Cornerstone investor fully supportive of all initiatives to advance the Manono Project and close the Transaction Implementation.

Either NF has some BIG MANONO SC6+ balls and plays poker or he KNOW'S HES GOT THIS...

Also Excellent news on the AJN thing, Get out and Focus on being more than a GEO for AVZ , Well Done Nigel,,

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I'm not quite following you but my point in a nutshell is.

You can't have 1 tenement as both exploitation and exploration permit.

So you need to split it into 2 separate tenements. (presumably)

My assumption is that the new exploration area hasn't been coloured in yet within the Trimble software or appointed with it's own tenement details.

Perhaps I'm wrong but this is what I'm trying to understand.
 
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I'm not quite following you but my point in a nutshell is.

You can't have 1 tenement as both exploitation and exploration permit.

So you need to split it into 2 separate tenements. (presumably)

My assumption it that the new exploration area hasn't been coloured in yet within the Trimble software or appointed with it's own tenement details.

Perhaps I'm wrong but this is what I'm trying to understand.
No I do understand where you are coming from but I think it’s a little messy imo like myself 😂 sorry , best let the ASX announcements sort it out bud hence the suspension 👍

Stay Sane 😆

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Come on mate, lower your expectations :)
 
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Samus

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No I do understand where you are coming from but I think it’s a little messy imo like myself 😂 sorry , best let the ASX announcements sort it out bud hence the suspension 👍

Stay Sane 😆

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All good I'm just curious where @Roller62 was coming from with his earlier comment about 13359 having shrunk. Which I don't think is necessary the case if we're purely going by the Trimble software which seems to be getting tinkered with a lot lately.

In hindsight could have compile my original post a lot better tbh (y)
 
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Frank

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we are seriously due for one hell of an update

management need to tell us:

-wheres the ML due days, weeks and months ago all at the same bloody time
-where's the BFS should come before FID
-wheres the FID apparently this was days away over 2 weeks ago
-wheres the detailed update on early works 6 months later
-wheres the detailed update on drilling Roche Dure 6 months later
-wheres CATH's $240m 3 months later after waiving ML recuirement, tell us what the hold is for if you dont have it now and want to extend again
-how much of the $70m have you spent considering the above progress?
-wheres the details on the 75% and proof of government backing
-where's the major works/mine construction funding and timetable considering all of the above is basically there, at least should be
-exactly what is the current state on the 15% and what went down in the past? why are the government not willing to comment? if it's because they want to take the crooks through a court then tell us that, but what faith do we have that the court will do anything when these kangaroo courts have already ruled against us, dont the government realise theirs to many crooks at the table and they need to step in now or lose face worldwide. Also please breakdown the legal details as to why the market was not informed on the legal proceedings prior to a market sensitive twitter announcement? btw they keep bloody coming

I'm being positive here, in that I want to stay in this for quite some time, but we need a lot of bloody answers right now, no more bullshit, tell the government how the international markets work and just how bad they look selling shit all over the world that they are showing they can't deliver.
*To Remind, re:- Crooks - who's up who and who hasn't paid and who's been paid and got away with it :rolleyes:

Chinese $9-billion infrastructure-for-minerals project in DR Congo derailed by high-level corruption​

  • China left red-faced by exposure of illicit financial activity in its huge Congo infrastructure contract
The exposure of massive corruption in a major Chinese infrastructure-for-minerals project in Democratic Republic of Congo embarrassed Beijing this week, just as it was boasting about its help to Africa at a meeting with the continent’s governments in Senegal.

The revelation by an American watchdog body and a consortium of journalists that millions of dollars meant to finance the $9-billion, 2007, so-called “Deal of the Century” instead went into the pockets of Chinese agents and former President Joseph Kabila and his family has also rocked the DRC’s fragile politics.

President Félix Tshisekedi has reportedly launched legal processes against implicated Kabila officials, prompting fears that the Kabila camp could retaliate by trying to regain power.

On the other hand, there are some suspicions that Tshisekedi may not want a full clean-up of the corruption as he has appointed one of the key players in Kabila’s corrupt deal with China to his Cabinet.

In 2007, Kabila signed a landmark deal with two huge Chinese state-owned enterprises — the construction corporation China Railway Group Ltd (CREC) and Sinohydro, which built China’s famed Three Gorges Dam over the Yangtze River.

The terms of the contract echoed similar Chinese deals in Africa; in essence, DRC would barter millions of tonnes of its plentiful cobalt and copper deposits for billions of dollars worth of Chinese-made and desperately needed railways, hospitals and universities, with the entire deal to be financed by the Export-Import Bank of China (China Exim Bank).

The Congolese government and the Chinese state-owned enterprises were to manage the deal through a joint venture, called the Sino-Congolaise des mines (Sicomines), of which the Congolese state mining company Gecamines held 32%.

DRC’s traditional Western donors and creditors were vexed as the heavily indebted country was seeking substantial loan-forgiveness from them while, at the same time, offering to guarantee about $9-billion of Chinese investment in the Sicomines deal, arguably playing one creditor off another. :oops:

Now the so-called Congo Hold-up — a huge leak of African financial records and data, obtained by the Platform to Protect Whistle-blowers in Africa (Pplaaf) and Mediapart, and shared with US watchdog NGO The Sentry by Pplaaf and the European Investigative Collaborations network — has revealed that most of the promised infrastructure did not materialise. o_O


Le Monde Afrique reported this week that the “megacontract remains a mirage” — none of the 31 hospitals planned by Beijing has been built, nor the two universities.

Instead, according to The Sentry’s report, “The Backchannel: State Capture and Bribery in Congo’s Deal of the Century”, published this week, the Chinese state enterprises used a Chinese intermediary called Du Wei with accounts at BGFIBank DRC — run by Kabila’s brother Francis Selemani — to pump tens of millions of dollars into his own pockets and those of the Kabila family, their associates and businesses.

Former president of Democratic Republic of the Congo Joseph Kabila.


They were abetted by major international financial institutions, such as Germany’s Commerzbank and the US Citibank, which The Sentry rebukes for ignoring obvious signs of corruption.

By facilitating financial transactions “with little or no documentation”, they failed to protect Congo’s poor from kleptocracy.

At least $138-million intended for infrastructure was diverted, according to various sources, though this is believed to be just the tip of the iceberg.

At the heart of the dodgy deal was BGFIBank DRC, the local branch of a bank based in Gabon.

The leaked files show that Du set up Congo Construction Company (CCC) with several accounts at BGFIBank DRC.

Despite its name, CCC did no construction but was just a shell company designed to launder money.

The Sentry’s report documents in minute detail how Du and other players in the Sicomines infrastructure-for-minerals deal moved money back and forth, mainly through BGFIBank DRC and CCC, into and out of the accounts of Kabila and his cronies, to try to cover the money trail.

From 2013 to 2018, CCC transferred at least $31-million to companies and people directly linked to Kabila; $21-million, largely in cash, to unknown beneficiaries; $8-million primarily to the Kabila family’s commercial partners; and more than $2-million to Du’s own accounts.

The report says documents from BGFI-Bank DRC show that Kabila’s brother Selemani personally managed the banking relationship with CCC, and companies he and his wife owned and controlled were the beneficiaries of as much as $9-million in transfers from CCC.

The Sentry found that among the large number of presumably shell companies that funnelled suspicious money through CCC was one called Universe Faith (South Africa) Ltd.

It was one of four anonymous companies registered in the British Virgin Islands, “a notorious haven for corporate secrecy”, as the report says.

These four companies wired an “unexplained” $18-million from bank accounts in China and Hong Kong to CCC.


The Sentry believes that the four companies were linked to CREC, the Chinese railway group that was supposed to build some of the infrastructure in the deal.

The flow of cash through CCC increased as Kabila neared the constitutionally mandated end of his final term in office.

Over the course of three months in 2016, Sicomines wired $25-million to CCC, which then transferred the money to the Kabila family, their proxies and their commercial partners.


Du held 80% of CCC, with the remainder owned by Congolese lawyer Guy Loando, who would go on to be elected to the Senate in 2019.

Loando was appointed to serve as minister of state in charge of regional planning by President Tshisekedi in April 2021.

As Kabila faced losing political power and control of the bank in 2018, CCC funnelled $10-million back out to safety for him and his family, The Sentry said.

In December 2018, after keeping the world guessing about his intentions, Kabila finally stood down from the presidency after 17 years in power and Tshisekedi was declared the winner of elections, which most observers believe were won by Martin Fayulu.

Though Kabila supported Tshisekedi’s takeover from him and the two initially formed a de facto coalition in which Kabila retained considerable behind-the-scenes power, especially in parliament, they later fell out as Tshisekedi managed to form his own majority coalition in parliament.


According to the journal Jeune Afrique, Tshisekedi has wasted no time in using the disclosure about the corrupt China infrastructure deal to his political advantage.

The journal said it had seen a letter in which Justice Minister Rose Mutombo Kiesse ordered a judicial investigation and, if necessary, prosecution “on the recent revelations of embezzlement of public funds involving several Congolese and international companies”.

These moves against corruption have caused some political turbulence.

Last week, Tshisekedi’s close adviser Fortunat Biselele — who is also close to Rwanda — fled Kinshasa and turned up unexpectedly in Kigali.

Rumours began circulating that Kabila was mobilising foreign allies to back a preemptive strike against Tshisekedi to thwart any prosecution of himself and his allies.


However, J Peter Pham, a former US special envoy to the Great Lakes and now a distinguished fellow at the Atlantic Council, dismissed this speculation.

“Just because things happen at near the same time does not mean they are linked,” he told DM168. “There are many interests, especially financial and mining ones, under serious threat and whose advantage it is to increase perception of weakness.”

Apart from the possible prosecutions of those implicated in the Sicomines deal, Tshisekedi has also announced a ban on new mining licences and possible switching of existing ones, which is rattling entrenched mining interests in DRC.

Pham this week had a public spat with Zhu Jing, China’s ambassador to DRC, about the exposure of corruption in the China infrastructure deal.

“Now that we know what the people of DRC did not get from Kabila’s ‘minerals for infrastructure’ deal with China, it is time to audit what the Chinese managed to take in the Congo — essentially without paying,” Pham tweeted.

To which Zhu replied: “The real partners of the DRC are those who contribute concretely for this country, not those who dictate their law and sow discord.”

To which Pham retorted: “The problem is that your compatriots have not delivered the ‘concrete’ infrastructure. What the government of DRC and the rest of the world want to know is what was stolen from the Congolese people who did not get their due for minerals sent to China.”


Meanwhile in Dakar, Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi told the Forum for China Africa Cooperation that, over the past two decades, Chinese enterprises had built more than 10,000km of railways, nearly 100,000km of highways, almost 1,000 bridges, 100 ports and more than 80 large-scale power facilities in Africa.



China-Belt-and-Road-Initiative #.jpg




China-Belt-and-Road-Initiative !!! .jpg



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All good I'm just curious where @Roller62 was coming from with his earlier comment about 13359 having shrunk. Which I don't think is necessary the case if we're purely going by the Trimble software which seems to be getting tinkered with a lot lately.

In hindsight could have compile my original post a lot better tbh (y)
Exactly, wouldn’t worry to much until D day , we will find out then mate 👍. Roller will be roller of course 😂 but yes he highlights Certain things that will need to be dealt with…
 
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Another brainwave question for the more educated. How low did/do the shorters expect SP to go before they begin to cover their positions? Do they think there will be 160m shares for sale at less than 78c?? The whole system is feking dodgy and allows big players to manipulate the market.
 
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Another brainwave question for the more educated. How low did/do the shorters expect SP to go before they begin to cover their positions? Do they think there will be 160m shares for sale at less than 78c?? The whole system is feking dodgy and allows big players to manipulate the market.

"How low did/do the shorters expect SP to go" - I bet they don't even know, its been awhile since some idiot has claimed 'this is going back to 10c or similar.

A good example of shorters getting screwed over is the Gamestop short squeeze, basically Americas EB Games. Brings a tear to the eye from laughter imagining the shorters watching this unfold in front of them:

 
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For me this here is the ONLY place with the good/fact based information about AVZ, I check twitter to see if there is anything major announced in terms of "breaking news" as there are few good people reporting whats transpiring back in DRC. But people like "Li" and before that Der Giest on twitter, not sure what their motives are, if they havent invested in AVZ why going in great lengths to dig irrelevant documents from 4-5 years back or reading and then sharing the reports from previous years just to spread misinformation, who has time to spend on something which is not benefiting them? I havent blocked them as I want to stay informed, mainly because I think ( that is due to I am new to AVZ) that what if the management is not upfront with their SH, so the best way to stay informed is from the trolls as they would be dying to report the smallest of negative news related to us :confused:
HC , I spent few days and it was bit too much misinformation for my liking hence sticking to this forum even if there is not much activity at times, for me, no news is good news. (y)
I haven't read everything here however in case it hasn't been brought up Li and Der Geist (deleted) are one and the same as is OilandGas (deleted).
 
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I haven't read everything here however in case it hasn't been brought up Li and Der Geist (deleted) are one and the same as is OilandGas (deleted).
Li was still there yesterday and blocked me. So I can not see whether he is gone. You sure his account gone?
 
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Li was still there yesterday and blocked me. So I can not see whether he is gone. You sure his account gone?
Li@lithiumanalytic is still active.
 
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Samus

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This has all gotten pretty stupid, has all this speculation on the bird and the Crapper stemmed from the fact that the upper portion 13359 hasn't been assigned its new tenement details yet?
Because I'd bet my left testicle that's all that's happened here.
 
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"How low did/do the shorters expect SP to go" - I bet they don't even know, its been awhile since some idiot has claimed 'this is going back to 10c or similar.

A good example of shorters getting screwed over is the Gamestop short squeeze, basically Americas EB Games. Brings a tear to the eye from laughter imagining the shorters watching this unfold in front of them:


Just watched this mini doco, very interesting in that it all revolves around retail investors having strong hands and not being "sucked in" to selling their shares. Imagine the social media campaign leading into next weeks announcement will be sickening. I expect bots to be working at warp speed when AvZ begins trading. Diamond hands folks.
 
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This has all gotten pretty stupid, has all this speculation on the bird and the Crapper stemmed from the fact that the upper portion 13359 hasn't been assigned its new tenement details yet?
Because I'd bet my left testicle that's all that's happened here.
A BIG call @Sammael …the left nugget🙈🙏
 
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This has all gotten pretty stupid, has all this speculation on the bird and the Crapper stemmed from the fact that the upper portion 13359 hasn't been assigned its new tenement details yet?
Because I'd bet my left testicle that's all that's happened here.
Lets call it a blessing . We needed that suspension .
 
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Samus

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Lets call it a blessing . We needed that suspension .
I don't think this has anything to do with the suspension personally.
 
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