AVZ Discussion 2022

[Seaworthy]

I wouldn't usually throw to Wikipedia ... but desperate times. From the short Wiki spiel below Lukwebo appears a better option than green mumba as MOP, looks to have shifted from Kabila to Felix in 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modeste_Bahati_Lukwebo

Also see below article which pegs Lukwebo as an ally of Felix.

“Modeste Bahati Lukwebo: an essential political pillar in the tumultuous situation in the DRC”

https://eng.fatshimetrie.org/2024/0...illar-in-the-tumultuous-situation-in-the-drc/


And maybe Kibeya's new boss isn't a fan of Twitter as we haven't seen @cominiereSA for few days ... he has to pay for some of this shit, he needs to go to Makala.

 

[Dazmac66]

Always wondered what the Minister of Portfolio was in charge of:
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[BEISHA]

Still better than pedo Biden. Or pedo Pete as his own son called him.

Well i guess if you and others are a believer of Qanon, Trump Jnr / senior, Russian press, then that says it all i guess...

Save the Children? Extremist conspiracy movement QAnon fabricates pedophile claims against Joe Biden as election looms

QAnon has hijacked the Save the Children movement to push baseless pedophilia claims against Joe Biden and other Democrats before the election.

www.usatoday.com

You know, lots of references about "creepy joe " with no basis or foundation, yet " pot calling the kettle black " when we focus on the article below...with foundation.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/epstein-flight-logs-showing-trips-by-presidents-clinton-and-trump-resurface/news-story/7d757c7c93c1ba440b2bacd1db7aec76

Creepy Don & Bill.........indeed.!!

Hey ...creepy felix,

Any chance we can get that ML awarded ?

Us longs are bored to fuck, losing focus and desperately want to discuss stock for a change !

 

[Charbella]

New minister of portfolio is very well respected in DRC, career politician so who fkn knows

I thought Adele and Bahati are not on good terms.
Modesty Bahati Lukwebo requested for Adele Kayinda’s departure from the government back in Feb 2023.

 

[JasonM]

Well i guess if you and others are a believer of Qanon, Trump Jnr / senior, Russian press, then that says it all i guess...

Save the Children? Extremist conspiracy movement QAnon fabricates pedophile claims against Joe Biden as election looms

QAnon has hijacked the Save the Children movement to push baseless pedophilia claims against Joe Biden and other Democrats before the election.

www.usatoday.com

You know, lots of references about "creepy joe " with no basis or foundation, yet " pot calling the kettle black " when we focus on the article below...with foundation.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/epstein-flight-logs-showing-trips-by-presidents-clinton-and-trump-resurface/news-story/7d757c7c93c1ba440b2bacd1db7aec76

Creepy Don & Bill.........indeed.!!

Hey ...creepy felix,

Any chance we can get that ML awarded ?

Us longs are bored to fuck, losing focus and desperately want to discuss stock for a change !

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always surprises me the amount of support for trump, even locally it seems. Trump is pure chaos, the guy is totally classless, the way he trash talks his opponents (eg desantis), how he treats women, how he can blatantly lie about many topics, eg stolen election, etc is just too much for me. More importantly, he's not a good partner for australia, we need someone who cares about more than their own backyard. on the other hand I dont have any love for biden either. I think both are too old and need to step aside. I like the idea of a young 50 something niki haley getting up but unfortunately that seems unlikely.

off topic.

on topic. who would care more about drc, trump or biden, I think biden, so he gets my vote.

either way Nige, sell the fucking thing so we can all forget about the DRC other than maybe monthly donations to worldvision to support the more unfortunate kids which again unfortunately are likely to exist in huge numbers in the DRC for many many years.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

I thought Adele and Bahati are not on good terms.
Modesty Bahati Lukwebo requested for Adele Kayinda’s departure from the government back in Feb 2023.

That is correct mate, think he is much more level headed and ultruistic that the cunt Adele. Still, we wait for official confirmation

 

[Deleted member 2378]

The removing of corrupt politicians doesn’t say the new ones are not corrupt.
After that list Tony Kanku Shiku is the new prime minister. That guy is linked to the mafia, a big supporter of cominiere and was strong against us in the past. My conclusion: nothing changed, normal DRC business continues

 

[Azzler]

Anyone consider how insane it is that America, of all countries, out of so many educated, successful, stable, sane and decent people, are presented with 2 options, both of which are frightingly awful, and then people fight over which of those 2 shit options are good?
Somethings not right....
Clue in guys.

 

[Spikerama]

Anyone consider how insane it is that America, of all countries, out of so many educated, successful, stable, sane and decent people, are presented with 2 options, both of which are frightingly awful, and then people fight over which of those 2 shit options are good?
Somethings not right....
Clue in guys.

No different here Azz

 

[Xerof]

The removing of corrupt politicians doesn’t say the new ones are not corrupt.
After that list Tony Kanku Shiku is the new prime minister. That guy is linked to the mafia, a big supporter of cominiere and was strong against us in the past. My conclusion: nothing changed, normal DRC business continues

Hearing it’s fake news. As you were

 

[Deleted member 2378]

Hearing it’s fake news. As you were

Alright

 

[tonster66]

Felix wants to make batteries!

https://x.com/politicocd/status/1753388049021489457?s=20

 

[BEISHA]

Felix wants to make batteries!

https://x.com/politicocd/status/1753388049021489457?s=20

Thats great, all Felix has to do to get the ball rolling is award AVZ the ML,....

 

[cruiser51]

Thats great, all Felix has to do to get the ball rolling is award AVZ the ML,....

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His right, or wong ball?

 

[cruiser51]

His right, or wong ball?

I would say in a couple of weeks we will see which ball will roll, will it be dollars or yuan?

I even rather wait before making handstands regarding the DRC new Government.
Too much fake news. People highly likely think if you say it early and often, it becomes gospel.

I would find it rather odd that Felix would tolerate his nephew to be the next PM.
Could be a case of wishful thinking.

As we don't have any involvement in the decision making process, I rather wait.

 

[JNRB]

Felix wants to make batteries!

https://x.com/politicocd/status/1753388049021489457?s=20

Out of what?

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Felix mentions creating the battery hub with Zambia and the USA, quite below:

Thus, it promises cooperations that promote win-win partnerships, in strict compliance with national laws.

Félix Tshisekedi also estimated that the agreements will revolve around the six commitments presented during his inauguration speech on January 20. For him, the DRC will remain a space of cooperation open to all.

 

[cruiser51]

Out of what?

Looks like it will be cassava.

 

[Rediah]

Sorry for the off topic,
Anyone here who is good with landscaping and pool installation, Brisbane southside, if you need some business/work. You can reach me, I will be paying someone for the work anyways, but if it can help one of us financially while we wait for this, I would feel happy, need to set the place for Jag and his girls.

 

[cruiser51]

Looks like it will be cassava.

Ok to what tune does Xi has Felix's balls in a twist, what this doesn't explain is how much money China owes to the DRC.

We better understand that China doesn't come completely empty handed to the negotiating table.

Developing Countries Receiving the Most Loans from China​

Published
2 months ago on December 11, 2023
By Marcus Lu

Article/Editing:​

• Bruno Venditti​

Graphics/Design:​

• Bhabna Banerjee​

Which Developed Countries Receive the Most Loans from China?​

According to the IMF, the most indebted poor countries in the world all have taken big loans from China.

Critics refer to this as “debt-trap diplomacy,” in which China deliberately provides loans to countries it knows are unable to pay, with the hope of gaining political leverage.

In this infographic we use data from the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission to list heavily indebted countries by their total loans from China.

China’s Massive Belt and Road Initiative​

Much of China’s loans are part of the country’s wider investments in global infrastructure: the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

Launched in 2013 and also referred to as the New Silk Road, the BRI stands as one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects ever conceived. Its goal is to create a vast network of railways, energy pipelines, highways, and streamlined border crossings.

In the process, Chinese state-owned creditors rapidly scaled up the provision of foreign currency-denominated loans to resource-rich countries, specially in Africa.

Country	Loans from China	Region
Ghana	$31.1B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Guinea	$21.9B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Ethiopia	$14.8B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Tanzania	$12.6B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo	$12.1B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Republic of the Congo	$11.4B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Mozambique	$7.9B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Sudan	$6.7B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Zambia	$4.6B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Bolivia	$4.1B	Latin America and the Caribbean
Chad	$3.2B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Senegal	$3.1B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Niger	$2.7B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Mali	$2.6B	Sub-Saharan Africa
Cameroon	$1.8B	Sub-Saharan Africa

Among the heavily indebted countries, 14 of 15 are African nations, many of the poorest in the world, like Sudan, Niger, Mozambique, Chad, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. The sole non-African country on the list, Bolivia, is also one of the poorest nations in South America.

According to the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, 60% of China’s debtor nations were in financial distress in 2022, up from 5% in 2010.

In addition to gaining preferential infrastructure accesses, China is gaining political allies. Many countries on this list, like the Republic of the Congo, have publicly supported China’s positions in Hong Kong and in the South China Sea.