AVZ Discussion 2022

[Cumquat Cap]

She's a beauty, dispels the bullshit Zijin saying we haven't touched the north - pay up you fucking grubs

 

[Carlos Danger]

MoM then reinstated 13359 in full, no split.

MoM cancelled the original decree not the waiver. There is nothing stopping that waiver being enforced again as far as I'm aware. Our entire case at the ICSID is about the survival of our acquired rights which is a PE for the south only so obviously management still legally see a split occurring as the basis of our claims.

 

[Lucas Don Velor]

CDE MRE out

Looks like CATH requirement of 10MT ore feed/yr for 30yrs can be realised with an infered upgrade to 301MT...

 

[Dave Evans]

A very professional announcement and nothing like the amateurish misleading bullshit from Zijin, Cong and the MMGA stooges

There was a time some shareholders (like der geist) complained about not getting announcements. We have been getting announcements on everything since AVZ decided that being polite and respectful to the DRC wasn’t getting us anywhere and our best course of action was through ICC and ICSID arbitration.

I wonder if the latest farcical attempt at stalling by the stooges leaves a money trail back to Zijin and the CCP or Cong and Jerkoff, but whoever it leads back to will be footing the bill for this latest Supreme Court action. Blind Freddy can see all the misleading and deceptive statements these MMGA stooges made in the lead up to the AGM.

And @Carlos, you’re legal attributes are greatly appreciated and provide a good balance to this forum

 

[Doc]

An upgrade announcement like that would have had whale pics coming left right and centre thick and fast once upon a time.
I miss the good ‘ol days

 

[Scoota30]

MoM cancelled the original decree not the waiver. There is nothing stopping that waiver being enforced again as far as I'm aware. Our entire case at the ICSID is about the survival of our acquired rights which is a PE for the south only so obviously management still legally see a split occurring as the basis of our claims.
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Just to confirm Carlos, the original "waiver" that we signed for to do a JV for the northern tenement, originally had the permiter higher north and didn't include the camp, the core shed and all the other infrastructure.

If they were so certain of holding on to that northern tenement because we "waived" it, why then did the manono Lithium JV perimiter push further south to include all of the infrastructure? Would they not keep it as the original perimiter, and fight that avenue if they thought we had legitamitely and legally waived the north? In moving further south on our land they've either shot themselves in the foot, OR, knowing that we still have full legal rights to the entire tenement, are trying to be sneaky fucks by pushing further south than they're entitled (as per their argument) in order to fuck with our infrastructure and play with the cores.

Friday can't come soon enough.

 

[Chilla]

Resource from recent drill results will be around 550Mt……worlds biggest Li resource.

Anchor price has gone up accordingly

$15 …. Or FO.

Wasnt too far off

 

[Scoota30]

Wasnt too far off

Can't believe management missed the opportunity to put an updated bubble graph into the announcement!

 

[Dave Evans]

A very professional announcement and nothing like the amateurish misleading bullshit from Zijin, Cong and the MMGA stooges

There was a time some shareholders (like der geist) complained about not getting announcements. We have been getting announcements on everything since AVZ decided that being polite and respectful to the DRC wasn’t getting us anywhere and our best course of action was through ICC and ICSID arbitration.

I wonder if the latest farcical attempt at stalling by the stooges leaves a money trail back to Zijin and the CCP or Cong and Jerkoff, but whoever it leads back to will be footing the bill for this latest Supreme Court action. Blind Freddy can see all the misleading statements these MMGA stooges made in the lead up to the AGM.

And @Carlos, you’re legal attributes are greatly appreciated and provide a good balance to this forum

Or, could this be Nigel and Graeme busking in front of their new home ️ following the WA Supreme Court decision

 

[Carlos Danger]

And @Carlos, you’re legal attributes are greatly appreciated and provide a good balance to this forum

Thanks Bags but I'm definitely not a lawyer haha

 

[9cardomaha]

An upgrade announcement like that would have had whale pics coming left right and centre thick and fast once upon a time.
I miss the good ‘ol days

I can still give you a sexy whale. Nige stating that the figures are JORC compliant is going to give detractors a headache - they claimed we did nothing on the north, or that if we had it wasn't JORC compliant... DRC ministerial decree was looking shifty infront of the tribunal before, this is a nail in the coffin.

Just to confirm Carlos, the original "waiver" that we signed for to do a JV for the northern tenement, originally had the permiter higher north and didn't include the camp, the core shed and all the other infrastructure.

If they were so certain of holding on to that northern tenement because we "waived" it, why then did the manono Lithium JV permiter push further south to include all of the infrastructure? Would they not keep it as the original permiter, and fight that avenue if they thought we had legitamitely and legally waived the north? In moving further south on our land they've either shot themselves in the foot, OR, knowing that we still have full legal rights to the entire tenement, are trying to be sneaky fucks by pushing further south than they're entitled (as per their argument) in order to fuck with our infrastructure and play with the cores.

The new northern split is different from our original waived area by design, allows for the argument of 'they aren't the same, tribunal can't return it to the way that it was because it's apples and oranges.' But like ive said, its irrelevant because the root cause is the illegal revocation and subsequent actions based on the initial illegal action.

BOD and DLA clearly know what they are doing, this ann while worthy of whale pics, is actually part of the fight to secure the north for us - worst case, the ann just sets the foundation for damages.

Just a few days to go baby.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Just to confirm Carlos, the original "waiver" that we signed for to do a JV for the northern tenement, originally had the permiter higher north and didn't include the camp, the core shed and all the other infrastructure.

If they were so certain of holding on to that northern tenement because we "waived" it, why then did the manono Lithium JV permiter push further south to include all of the infrastructure? Would they not keep it as the original permiter, and fight that avenue if they thought we had legitamitely and legally waived the north? In moving further south on our land they've either shot themselves in the foot, OR, knowing that we still have full legal rights to the entire tenement, are trying to be sneaky fucks by pushing further south than they're entitled (as per their argument) in order to fuck with our infrastructure and play with the cores.

Friday can't come soon enough.

Yeah defo the waiver is for a 139 south / 82 north split not this new bullshit. Zijin trying to use shock and awe to make us think accepting the old split with them in charge is a good deal.

Judging by CDL announcement today it is up in the air how it will go but if Dathcom gets the north then we will need to negotiate a new JV with the other shareholders

 

[Scoota30]

I can still give you a sexy whale. Nige stating that the figures are JORC compliant is going to give detractors a headache - they claimed we did nothing on the north, or that if we had it wasn't JORC compliant... DRC ministerial decree was looking shifty infront of the tribunal before, this is a nail in the coffin.



The new northern split is different from our original waived area by design, allows for the argument of 'they aren't the same, tribunal can't return it to the way that it was because it's apples and oranges.' But like ive said, its irrelevant because the root cause is the illegal revocation and subsequent actions based on the initial illegal action.

BOD and DLA clearly know what they are doing, this ann while worthy of whale pics, is actually part of the fight to secure the north for us - worst case, the ann just sets the foundation for damages.

Just a few days to go baby.

Not long indeed 9Card - one more sleep until friday to be exact!

 

[Scoota30]

Yeah defo the waiver is for a 139 south / 82 north split not this new bullshit. Zijin trying to use shock and awe to make us think accepting the old split with them in charge is a good deal.

Judging by CDL announcement today it is up in the air how it will go but if Dathcom gets the north then we will need to negotiate a new JV with the other shareholders

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Yeah so it's clear that it's just goalpost shifting and they don't really have a legal leg to stand on.

Hopefully all of the bullshit is at the end of the line and everyone gets around a table after or before this ICSID verdict this week and puts the whole thing to bed. DRC Gov either going to get fucked by Zijin and CCP or ICSID and the west.

DRC can still save face by correcting their wrongs and fucking off CKK and Lisette as well as MoP to some other shitty government department, China still ends up getting the product as well as a potential stake with CATL. Time to negotiate in good faith. #FuckZijin though, bring CMOC or some other chinese company in if that's what it takes.

 

[cruiser51]

And....

We still haven't seen the update on the RD resource based on the extended drilling, which took place after the DFS.

Just a minor point.

 

[Deleted member 2378]

I can still give you a sexy whale. Nige stating that the figures are JORC compliant is going to give detractors a headache - they claimed we did nothing on the north, or that if we had it wasn't JORC compliant... DRC ministerial decree was looking shifty infront of the tribunal before, this is a nail in the coffin.



The new northern split is different from our original waived area by design, allows for the argument of 'they aren't the same, tribunal can't return it to the way that it was because it's apples and oranges.' But like ive said, its irrelevant because the root cause is the illegal revocation and subsequent actions based on the initial illegal action.

BOD and DLA clearly know what they are doing, this ann while worthy of whale pics, is actually part of the fight to secure the north for us - worst case, the ann just sets the foundation for damages.

Just a few days to go baby.

In the case we need to go for damages, who do you think will pay for it? I mean the drc is broke, they could never pay such a amount or need decades for it. And that’s the part that worries me the most.

 

[obe wan]

Just to confirm Carlos, the original "waiver" that we signed for to do a JV for the northern tenement, originally had the permiter higher north and didn't include the camp, the core shed and all the other infrastructure.

If they were so certain of holding on to that northern tenement because we "waived" it, why then did the manono Lithium JV perimiter push further south to include all of the infrastructure? Would they not keep it as the original perimiter, and fight that avenue if they thought we had legitamitely and legally waived the north? In moving further south on our land they've either shot themselves in the foot, OR, knowing that we still have full legal rights to the entire tenement, are trying to be sneaky fucks by pushing further south than they're entitled (as per their argument) in order to fuck with our infrastructure and play with the cores.

Friday can't come soon enough.

one of the main reasons they pushed it south imo , was to deprive us of process water I.e they pushed the border just south of lake liska … double barrel but more of a lolz , was that it also meant that our camp which would be used for mining operations would be out of bounds to us , as it would be within the northern tenement .

basically Cominiere /zijin wanted the power ( hydro plant ) and process water source ( lake Liska ) for the northern tenement and leave Dathcom to scratch its head and solves its new issues… Dathcom would also need to find a camp elsewhere for its camp required for mining operations

 

[Pedro]

And....

We still haven't seen the update on the RD resource based on the extended drilling, which took place after the DFS.

Just a minor point.

Not such a minor point when we add another 100 million tonnes to the existing monster. I think the BOD will announce the RD upgrade when NF finds a larger crayon to draw the new bubble graph. Will be little moons rotating around the mother planet.

 

[JAG]

Hoots has been found

 

[Pokok]

Hoots has been found
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Hi Jag so all jokes aside which are funny , do you think we can get a resolution sooner rather than later ??? i am 12 months till retirement and my boss just shut the company