AVZ Discussion 2022

[Roon]

This is pure vengeance, like how does it achieve anything for them? Shareholders are just going to hate them more. Fuck this I thought we might actually hear something positive before Christmas. Merry fucking Christmas indeed…

Not pure vengeance, a pure legal strategy of shitfuckery in line with all previous efforts by Zijin and their DRC lackies to hamstring AVZ. It's so clearly backed by those trying to steal the project that I wonder how they could claim with a straight face that this isn't directed by our enemies. Wonder what they've been promised??

Not only does it tie our hands with more time consuming legal dramas, it gives Zijin/C another line of ammunition to present to DRC to undermine our negotiating position and state again why AVZ cant be trusted, and that it doesnt matter anyway as this means Dathcom can be dissolved and us fobbed off (as i heard this is an argument they put forward along with the financial issue and others as backing for that play) It also allows them to say again that the current leadership could be on the way out, as was the case prior to the AGM, and that they just need to hold the line...Whilst they continue to solidify their ground-level control over the tenement by pressing ahead with drilling, and obstruct our prospect of any other resolution. Dogs.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

I knew the cunts would be back given their lawyers cheeky smile leaving the AGM

 

[wombat74]

Not pure vengeance, a pure legal strategy of shitfuckery in line with all previous efforts by Zijin and their DRC lackies to hamstring AVZ. It's so clearly backed by those trying to steal the project that I wonder how they could claim with a straight face that this isn't directed by our enemies. Wonder what they've been promised??

Not only does it tie our hands with more time consuming legal dramas, it gives Zijin/C another line of ammunition to present to DRC to undermine our negotiating position and state again why AVZ cant be trusted, and that it doesnt matter anyway as this means Dathcom can be dissolved and us fobbed off (as i heard this is an argument they put forward along with the financial issue and others as backing for that play) It also allows them to say again that the current leadership could be on the way out, as was the case prior to the AGM, and that they just need to hold the line...Whilst they continue to solidify their grounbd-level control over the tenement by pressing ahead with drilling, and obstruct our prospect of any other resolution. Dogs.

They must of had their arses kicked by ICSID .

 

[SilentOne]

Not pure vengeance, a pure legal strategy of shitfuckery in line with all previous efforts by Zijin and their DRC lackies to hamstring AVZ. It's so clearly backed by those trying to steal the project that I wonder how they could claim with a straight face that this isn't directed by our enemies. Wonder what they've been promised??

Not only does it tie our hands with more time consuming legal dramas, it gives Zijin/C another line of ammunition to present to DRC to undermine our negotiating position and state again why AVZ cant be trusted, and that it doesnt matter anyway as this means Dathcom can be dissolved and us fobbed off (as i heard this is an argument they put forward along with the financial issue and others as backing for that play) It also allows them to say again that the current leadership could be on the way out, as was the case prior to the AGM, and that they just need to hold the line...Whilst they continue to solidify their ground-level control over the tenement by pressing ahead with drilling, and obstruct our prospect of any other resolution. Dogs.

Well it is purely a distraction in my opinion - our case with the ICSID hopefully will have a result before Christmas - I see MMGA as a distraction.

I am not going to lose sleep.

Regards,

SilentOne

 

[RHyNO]

And this is what the court system in Australia is being used for? This shit should be thrown out with prejudice! Absolute dogs. It’s almost treason considering our critical
Minerals agenda.

 

[Remark]

Not really surprised by this which in itself is sad.

This is obviously a war of attrition.

 

[Dave Evans]

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You fellas in the west should have dealt with the stooges the NSW way. And I don’t mean the way those pussy’s from Newcastle and Deboss dealt with them

I mean the real Newcastle way.

At 3:05 in the song, even after being thrown in the back of the paddy wagon several times and been punched and held by several cops, Ian still manages to throw a couple of rights

Next time have the meeting in NSW. Fucken Pussy’s

 

[Panther22]

I think most were thinking after AGM "what's next?" Here it is.
There is always going to be something else, Chinese are not going to walk away ever. Clearly the 3 stooges are under instruction from Z.

 

[Winenut]

When will Fat Slob Holdings realise AVZ shareholders don't need or want them to look after our interests?

Those pricks are so out of touch it's farcical

If getting figuratively smashed in the fucking face at the AGM didn't do it what will?

And when will the foreign backers of these absolute flogs be fully exposed along with their vile and illegal attempts to steal the Manono project from honest AVZ shareholders and the good people of the DRC?

 

[Beetleb]

I see the Australian puppets working for Fat Tail that are working in the interests of themselves and other non-DRC and non-Australian parties as traitors, nothing more nothing else.

They are clearly driven by greed and self-interest and don't care one bit for the harm and damage being caused to 20,000+ Aussie retail investors who have invested in AVZ. The results of the AGM were clear. What other evidence does Fat Tail need that their strategy is not supported and in the interests of shareholders?

I seriously don't have one group of people I despise more than those representing non-Australian interests, trying to rob shareholders by undermining what AVZ is trying to achieve ethically, and following DRC law and regulations that will significantly benefit one of the poorest localities in the world for generations to come.

It's so obvious AVZ is genuinely seeking to achieve win-win outcomes since they were incorporated, unlike the parties who have acted criminally for generations and say it but have never followed through with actions. I feel so sorry for the Monano populace who have never had people representing their interests. I hope they get this opportunity with AVZ and Australia for an increased standard of living, it might be the last chance for some.

It is also time for the Australian government and DFAT to step up get actively involved. Do something and stop being passive. Even if DFAT need to make an exemption on what they ordinarily get involved in terms of diplomacy and their mission, they should get involved in this - other government's countries are involved, so why isn't the Australian government actively involved. DFAT have an African office - this should be one of their priorities. I mean set up a special focus group to ensure Australian interests are represented and succeed rather than being walked over. The African office is set up to make sure foreign aid programs make a difference and flow through to where it is supposed to go. DFAT - one of the best aid programs you cold deliver is making sure AVZ start this project and deliver on their promises to the Monano community. Separate to this, there are 20000 + Aussie investors interests at stake here, let alone tax royalties that would flow to Auustralia, and the strategic importance of this project.

 

[RHyNO]

I think most were thinking after AGM "what's next?" Here it is.
There is always going to be something else, Chinese are not going to walk away ever. Clearly the 3 stooges are under instruction from Z.

Not that many here need reminding but it does speak volumes to the strategic value of the entire resource for them to wage this war of attrition. Minister for mining needs to step in and out full weight of commonwealth and aus government behind this. We just sitting on our asses while China sets itself up for 200 years of global economic dominance and we kindly beg them for resources that should be/were ours.

 

[Doc]

Tick tock AFR, where’s the article……?

 

[Xerof]

When will Fat Slob Holdings realise AVZ shareholders don't need or want them to look after our interests?

never, coz they are only looking after the interests of China, fullstop

 

[Dave Evans]

You fellas in the west should have dealt with the stooges the NSW way. And I don’t mean the way those pussy’s from Newcastle and Deboss dealt with them

I mean the real Newcastle way.

At 3:05 in the song, even after being thrown in the back of the paddy wagon several times and been punched and held by several cops, Ian still manages to throw a couple of rights

Next time have the meeting in NSW. Fucken Pussy’s

PS Would not be surprised one bit if der geist was providing information to the stooges and tommy t comes out with a follow up. Scumbags stick together like flies on shit.

The stooges last effort was an embarrassment, this latest stall tactic shows how desperate they are. I’m eagerly awaiting the ICSID outcome

 

[Xerof]

And when will the foreign backers of these absolute flogs be fully exposed along with their vile and illegal attempts to steal the Manono project from honest AVZ shareholders and the good people of the DRC?

Friday

 

[Pokok]

PS Would not be surprised one bit if der geist was providing information to the stooges and tommy t comes out with a follow up. Scumbags stick together like flies on shit.

The stooges last effort was an embarrassment, this latest stall tactic shows how desperate they are. I’m eagerly awaiting the ICSID outcome

I for one think it is not such a good option to take this to an Australian court as now they will get more exposure to what they are up to , let the general media press them on their back door activities , let the many people of Australia know what type of so called business man lives next to to them , get their name in every investors heads for when they next research a company , greed is the factor but I am sure we will come out on top even if the best way is for the BOD to nego a settlement price sooner rather than later , I dont have time in my life to wait 2 or 3 years down the track to get the same result now .

 

[SilentOne]

The good thing is that the ASX does not operate like a chat forum and cant. How can you negotiate anything in a country where the "Rule of Law" doesnt exist. The Board I believe have bent over backwards with the relevant DRC parties in good faith and I suspect have been continually lied to. You cant even negotiate a position because some parties wont keep their word and are inherently dishonest.

Why would the Board release announcements on actions that they thought had no legs even though they may have subsequently played out to the surprise of everyone. If the Board announced every claim then the ASX would read like a chat forum for AVZ.

I have absolute confidence in the Board and they have significant legal assistance to win this in my opinion.

Lets see both the ICC and ICSID play out.

Go Nigel and the Team.

SilentOne

 

[Carlos Danger]

Friday

Last trading day before xmas

 

[Carlos Danger]

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This case by MMGA is a negotiation tactic from DRC / Zijin imo

It's beyond time for AVZ management to provide detailed clarity to shareholders on the waiver for the north. I've been able to get my grubby mitts on pretty much every document in this shit show except the alleged supporting paperwork saying we haven't given it away in accordance with the mining code. Nigel loves to harp on about the law in every other matter except this one. Mupande tricked us isn't going to cut it. It's put up or shut up time.

“If he [Tshisekedi] feels like he needs to go ahead with some sort of a deal on the north with Zijin, then we’ll sit down and talk about it”
- Nigel

 

[SilentOne]

This case by MMGA is a negotiation tactic from DRC / Zijin imo

It's beyond time for AVZ management to provide detailed clarity to shareholders on the waiver for the north. I've been able to get my grubby mitts on pretty much every document in this shit show except the alleged supporting paperwork saying we haven't given it away in accordance with the mining code. Nigel loves to harp on about the law in every other matter except this one. Mupande tricked us isn't going to cut it. It's put up or shut up time.

“If he [Tshisekedi] feels like he needs to go ahead with some sort of a deal on the north with Zijin, then we’ll sit down and talk about it”
- Nigel

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I thought that there was an agreement to split - South gets the License and the North remains in "Exploration" mode both remaining with Dathcom - I was not aware of any agreement with the North being given away or returned to the DRC.


Just my recollection - SilentOne