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SilentOne

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Provisional Measures - ICSID Convention Arbitration (2022 Rules)​

Except as the parties otherwise agree, the Tribunal may recommend any provisional measures necessary to preserve the parties’ rights (Article 47 of the ICSID Convention, Arbitration Rule 47).
For example, a party may request provisional measures to:
  • prevent action that is likely to cause current or imminent harm to that party or prejudice to the arbitral process (e.g., preventing prejudicial interference by one party)
  • maintain or restore the status quo (e.g., staying parallel domestic or arbitral proceedings, or staying the execution of administrative decisions)
  • preserve evidence that is relevant to the resolution of the dispute.
Provisional measures may be sought at any time during the proceeding. The party requesting provisional measures must specify the rights to be preserved, the measures requested, and the circumstances that require such measures (Arbitration Rule 47(2)(a)). The Tribunal determines the briefing schedule in consultation with the parties, unless the request is made before the constitution of the Tribunal, in which case the Secretary-General of ICSID fixes the time limits for written submissions (Arbitration Rule 47(2)(c)).
The Tribunal may hold a hearing but is not required to, and it must issue its decision within 30 days after its constitution (if all submissions have been previously filed) or after the last submission on the request (if that submission is filed after Tribunal constitution).

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The Tribunal must consider all relevant circumstances when deciding whether to recommend a provisional measures. In particular, the Tribunal must consider whether the measures are necessary and urgent, and the effect that they may have on each party (Arbitration Rule 47(3)).

Parties must disclose any material change in the circumstances upon which the provisional measures were recommended (Arbitration Rule 47(5)).

The Tribunal may recommend, modify or revoke provisional measures on its own initiative or at the request of a party after giving each party an opportunity to present its observations (Arbitration Rule 47(6)).

A party can request provisional measures from a judicial or other authority provided that it is authorized to do so under the instrument of consent.

Requests for Security for Costs are addressed pursuant to Arbitration Rule 53.
 
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BEISHA

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No guarantee that FT will win the up coming election on December 20..........going by this aricle.

For all the reasons i have articulated in the past...;)

Will there actually be a election ?

Some commentary about lack of transparency, faulty electoral register, defective voter cards, untraceable mapping of polling stations, suggests..........maybe not. :unsure:

Why am i not surprised ?
 
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Winenut

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Constant shitfuckery

Totally over it

Partly I invested because Felix was in the picture

Now trying to dis-invest because Felix is in the picture

Has not done one thing I've seen supporting a mandate to deal with corruption

Total opposite

Weak as piss and is just about speaking Mandarin from my observation

I really feel for the people of the DRC

So let down by their leaders

Fuck me
 
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Constant shitfuckery

Totally over it

Partly I invested because Felix was in the picture

Now trying to dis-invest because Felix is in the picture

Has not done one thing I've seen supporting a mandate to deal with corruption

Total opposite

Weak as piss and is just about speaking Mandarin from my observation

I really feel for the people of the DRC

So let down by their leaders

Fuck me
Yep, when were all over the road at the crapper , folks were preying for a FT win in 2019 as we were concerned for AVZ fortunes if kabila remained in power .

FT .........the white knight to sabre corruption !!

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Come 2023, nothing has changed..........in fact, its worse.

I wonder if situations would of been better if Martin Fayulu ( who was convinced he won the popular vote and that the 2019 election was rigged) would have fared a bit better........:unsure:


He will be FT major opponent in 2023 election..........once again.

I wonder if AVZ BOD had some private convos with him regards to the fortunes of Manono.......:unsure:

Nigel did confirm to me that they had some converversations with FT opponents post AGM...;)

imo
 
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Dazmac66

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Just reading up on the latest announcement from the Yanks in regard IRA. When this is sorted will AVZ have less than 25% Chinese ownership with CATH having 24% plus other large Chinese holders. From what I am reading 25% is the cutoff for selling in to the US ev/renewables supply chain.
 
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marksmann007

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Just reading up on the latest announcement from the Yanks in regard IRA. When this is sorted will AVZ have less than 25% Chinese ownership with CATH having 24% plus other large Chinese holders. From what I am reading 25% is the cutoff for selling in to the US ev/renewables supply chain.
Under the guidelines, any company that is subject to the jurisdiction of China’s government, or is controlled by the government — including if it is at least 25% owned by a Chinese government authority — would be considered an FEOC. The restrictions would also apply to all production inside of China. However, foreign subsidiaries of privately-owned Chinese companies in non-FEOC countries, like Australia or Indonesia, would be allowed so long as they are not controlled by the Chinese government.

The new rules seem to bless licensing deals like Ford’s battery plant in Marshall, Michigan, which is owned and operated by the automaker, but licenses technology from China’s battery champion, Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd., also known as CATL. Tesla Inc. looked into a similar structure with CATL earlier this year, Bloomberg has reported, though the status of those talks is unclear.
 
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Mute22

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Real quiet around here post AGM...
 
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CHB

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Real quiet around here post AGM...
Just gotta wait for court cases.. either that or the next hurdle zijin throws at us

Seems to be the norm
 
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Mute22

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Just gotta wait for court cases.. either that or the next hurdle zijin throws at us

Seems to be the norm
Does anybody have the court cases timeline available, there was an amazing post but I didn't save it.
 
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BEISHA

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Real quiet around here post AGM...
Not alot to post about really, its all about DRC elections and waiting for arbitration deliberations....;)

Speaking of DRC elections, just having a look at another one of FT political opponents.


Denis Mukwege has all the pedigree and positive human qualities to uplift the DRC , does he have the right connections / numbers to win the election ?

I dont know, but his bio is impressive and if the locals are smart , then they should give this guy a chance to do what FT should of done , but failed miserably.

Denis Mukwege is a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE winner recipient.

He has my vote ..........in spades!!


imo
 
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When do we start paying new members of the BoD ? How much are we paying them ? How long will it take for Locke to decide whether they would like to loan us money ? Lets hope they pull their finger out and make a decision ASAP . They have until end of March by which time AVZ $$$ will be running on fumes . What's AVZ's back up plan if Locke don't come up with the coin ? How quickly can we call on penalty dollars accrued by Cominiere ? If things start getting tight will Nigel and crew take a pay cut or work for free ? ICSID forces DRC gov to consider an MoU as a pathway to the ML OR ICSID forces DRC gov to take another approach to stall and delay tactics? How long do AVZ wait before we call BS ? Can China draw out the elections for weeks or months to suit their objectives ?
 
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When do we start paying new members of the BoD ? How much are we paying them ? How long will it take for Locke to decide whether they would like to loan us money ? Lets hope they pull their finger our and make a decision ASAP . They have until end of March by which time AVZ $$$ will be surviving on fumes . What's AVZ's back up plan if Locke don't come up with the coin ? How quickly can we call on penalty dollars accrued by Cominiere ? If things start getting tight will Nigel and crew take a pay cut or work for free ? ICSID forces DRC gov to consider an MoU as a pathway to the ML OR ICSID forces DRC gov to take another approach to stall and delay tactics? How long do AVZ wait before we call BS ? Can China draw out the elections for weeks or months to suit their objectives ?
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Xerof

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tonster66

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DRC would be in caretaker mode, should they follow this convention. This means that we will not get any outcome until the next government is sworn in.
 
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Retrobyte

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When do we start paying new members of the BoD ? How much are we paying them ?

According to the rem statement in the annual report the NEDs get $60k each pa, so the new directors are not a massive financial drain. JC gets more as Chair.
 
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Caption this & post on Twitter / X....

Kiyeba-Manono-Map.jpg
 
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BRICK

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Dave Evans

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Caption this & post on Twitter / X....

View attachment 51301

I don’t know how to add captions to photos but how about

“I took a bribe from Zijin, ripped the DRC off $120 million and stole this from Dathcom after AVZ spent $100 million developing it”
 
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