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j.l

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Unsubstantiated of course, but sharing in the interests of maintaining a balanced diet (or at least having something to chew on):

 
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Unsubstantiated of course, but sharing in the interests of maintaining a balanced diet (or at least having something to chew on):


Cominiere case at ICC won't be decided until late 2024 / early 2025 if no settlement. Felix might not be president in 7 weeks. Tick fucking tock.

Also quiet diplomacy for the L imo


Julian Assange’s brother urges Anthony Albanese to ‘up the ante’ over WikiLeaks founder’s case

Julian Assange’s brother has urged the Australian government to “up the ante” after the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, confirmed he raised the WikiLeaks founder’s case with Joe Biden last week.

Assange’s brother, Gabriel Shipton, told Guardian Australia: “If his government can get back Cheng Lei from China, why is he so impotent when it comes to Julian and the USA?”

Assange remains in Belmarsh prison in London as he fights a US attempt to extradite him to face charges – including under the Espionage Act. The charges are in connection with the publication of hundreds of thousands of leaked documents about the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, as well as diplomatic cables, in 2010 and 2011.

Speaking on the ABC’s Insiders program, Albanese reiterated his position that “enough is enough – it is time that this issue was brought to a conclusion”.

Albanese said he had “raised the issue of Julian Assange with the administration on all of the occasions in which I’ve met members of the administration”, including with Biden during meetings in Washington DC last week.

But Albanese played down the idea of the US president personally stepping in to order the case be dropped.

“Joe Biden doesn’t interfere with the Department of Justice,” Albanese said. “Joe Biden is a president who understands the separation of the judicial system from the political system. That’s an important principle.”

Asked whether that meant it was time for Assange to enter into a plea deal, Albanese said Australian officials were “working very hard to achieve an outcome which is consistent with the position that I’ve put”.

Shipton said the US president’s rhetoric about not influencing the Department of Justice (DoJ) was not surprising “given the number of prosecutions against Biden’s main political opponent”, Donald Trump.

But Shipton said Assange’s prosecution was “unique and a novel use of the law developed during the Trump administration” and was “entirely political”.

“Unwinding it would be a restoration of DoJ independence,” Shipton said.

Shipton noted the government’s recent success in securing the release of Cheng, an Australian journalist after more than three years of detention in China. “It’s time for the prime minister to up the ante,” he said.

Greg Barns SC, adviser to the Assange campaign, said the efforts to reach a breakthrough were not solely focused on Biden but also the attorney general, Merrick Garland. The US House of Representatives and Senate were also a focus of lobbying.

“It’s not a one-pronged approach,” Barns said.

“When you’ve got an extradition matter, particularly when it’s highly political, you work at a number of levels.

“The president has the power to pardon, including in circumstances where a person hasn’t been tried and convicted, so at the end of the day there are powers that a president can use but there are other powers that an attorney general has.”

The US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, has previously pushed back at the Australian government’s complaints that the pursuit of Assange had dragged on too long.

After talks in Brisbane in July, Blinken said it was “very important” for “our friends” in Australia to understand the US concerns about Assange’s “alleged role in one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of our country”.

Assange’s supporters argue that it was in the public interest to publish information about the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and say his prosecution sets a bad precedent for press freedom.

Last month more than 60 Australian federal politicians explicitly called on the DoJ to drop the prosecution, warning of “a sharp and sustained outcry in Australia” if the WikiLeaks founder was extradited.

A small cross-party delegation then flew to Washington DC in late September to lobby Biden administration officials and US lawmakers in the lead-up to Albanese’s visit.

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Looking forawrd to having a drink this weekend and shitposting on here just to watch DE rage about it next week. 🙃
 
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#MinesRDC At #Manono , grumbles from the population for the delay in the exploitation of #lithium . A population lacking employment and a provision which was waiting for everything for its development in this project, saw the opportunity missed following political conflicts in #RDC .
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Hey @Spikerama is it too much? :unsure:

I'm sure you could work wonders with this.
 
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Mate I understood the reason things happened, and like everyone else I didn’t know ahead of time. I wasn’t talking down to you I was simply trying to explain something in a polite manner with no other intention than offering an explanation.

There’s a reason things were done the way they were and a lot of people don’t know it and a lot have whinged about it because they don’t know.

I never implied that you said the lack of disclosure was illegal and I never said I was giving the BOD a free pass. I haven’t discussed publicly how I voted on Reolution 1, unlike some people here who wasted 8 pages on TSE whinging about it because they were drunk or needed someone to give them a reason to vote yes for it.

Having said that, I’m not here to put up with bullshit so you can fuck off to my ignore list like those others. I’m only interested in facts and listening to shareholders who know what they are talking about, not replying further to dickheads like you.

There’s a reason why some good posters don’t post anymore, you’re one of those reasons. Go and get a room with onthefm

Nah. You were basically saying anyone who didn't see it coming were inexperienced and then listed your extensive experience, you patronising Kunt. I'm not interested in how you voted, and I wasn't referring to you about the free pass. Learn basic comprehension. Your holier than thou attitude isn't edifying. You shit downwards like everyone else.
 
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Nah. You were basically saying anyone who didn't see it coming were inexperienced and then listed your extensive experience, you patronising Kunt. I'm not interested in how you voted, and I wasn't referring to you about the free pass. Learn basic comprehension. Your holier than thou attitude isn't edifying. You shit downwards like everyone else.
Gotta agree I'm afraid, I thought his post was WAY out of line and absurd. But whatever...
 
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Looking forawrd to having a drink this weekend and shitposting on here just to watch DE rage about it next week. 🙃

I hope you have at least 10 years of putting in 8 hour days researching how to shitpost, or your shitposting might not be up to scratch and he might put you on ignore. You wouldn't want that.
 
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I have mentioned this before, I spoke to Graeme Johnston one on one at last years AGM about the forgery, back then it was purported he was sentenced to 3 yrs jail and a 500k fine ( or was it 50k :unsure:, cant remember ) and he retorted that it was complete bullshit and if it was true, why was he in Perth for the AGM in the first place ?

Just Cong doing what he does best..............corruption !

That being said, the Dathomir 15% scenario wasnt put up for discussion at question time last AGM, for clarity this year, I might bring it up....;)

To be sure , to be sure.

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is DE MB???
 
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Nah. You were basically saying anyone who didn't see it coming were inexperienced and then listed your extensive experience, you patronising Kunt. I'm not interested in how you voted, and I wasn't referring to you about the free pass. Learn basic comprehension. Your holier than thou attitude isn't edifying. You shit downwards like everyone else.
Oh no. Incoming - bunker down!
Prepare Get Ready GIF by STARZ
 
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BEISHA

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The information was spurious and without merit. Sensu stricto.

As long as AVZ win at the ICC or get Cong to admit the creation of the share certificate was valid they didn't need to disclose the judgement as the proceedings were heard on a false pretence stemming from a misunderstanding or more likely blatant ignoring of the dispute resolution terms outlined in Article 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA imo

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Under Listing Rule 3.1, an entity must disclose all information concerning it that it becomes aware of from any source and of any character, if a reasonable person would expect the information to have a material effect on the price or value of its securities.

Did AVZ BOD pass the pub test, with listing rule 3.1 ?

Highlighted BOLD would suggest...........not.

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Nah. You were basically saying anyone who didn't see it coming were inexperienced and then listed your extensive experience, you patronising Kunt. I'm not interested in how you voted, and I wasn't referring to you about the free pass. Learn basic comprehension. Your holier than thou attitude isn't edifying. You shit downwards like everyone else.
Well, in my younger days I was subjected to some Japanese porn that, well let's just say shits all over that comment. and everything else within range. :oops:
 
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Does anyone recall what the link is on X for $AVZ without all the spam on there? I am just using the $AVZ search and so much crap not relating to AVZ. Thanks in advance!
 

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Does anyone recall what the link is on X for $AVZ without all the spam on there? I am just using the $AVZ search and so much crap not relating to AVZ. Thanks in advance!
Are you looking for something in particular? I just sit on my "for you" page now and it's filled with up to date $AVZ stuff, it's a curse.
 
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Retrobyte

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Does anyone recall what the link is on X for $AVZ without all the spam on there? I am just using the $AVZ search and so much crap not relating to AVZ. Thanks in advance!

type this into the X search bar ..... $avz -url:discord
 
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I have mentioned this before, I spoke to Graeme Johnston one on one at last years AGM about the forgery, back then it was purported he was sentenced to 3 yrs jail and a 500k fine ( or was it 50k :unsure:, cant remember ) and he retorted that it was complete bullshit and if it was true, why was he in Perth for the AGM in the first place ?

Just Cong doing what he does best..............corruption !

That being said, the Dathomir 15% scenario wasnt put up for discussion at question time last AGM, for clarity this year, I might bring it up....;)

To be sure , to be sure.

imo
Under Listing Rule 3.1, an entity must disclose all information concerning it that it becomes aware of from any source and of any character, if a reasonable person would expect the information to have a material effect on the price or value of its securities.

Did AVZ BOD pass the pub test, with listing rule 3.1 ?

Highlighted BOLD would suggest...........not.

imo
Cong was crying to anyone that would listen about his purported termination of the SPA's. Including the ASX. They and ASIC didn't care. Maybe they were being unreasonable. Maybe not.

Feel free to give Omni Bridgeway a call if you disagree. I'm sure they would love to hear from you. It's been a tough week for them with their Zijin non disclosure claim.

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Graeme Johnston's immediate arrest order was overturned on appeal before last year's AGM on 8/9/22 pending determination of his criminal conviction in the DRC supreme court. Which if AVZ are successful in their stay request should lead to the SPA's termination dispute being decided by the ICC arbitration before going back to the DRC legal system for rectification. A successful outcome for AVZ at the ICC should result in the restoring of the share certificate and overturning of Graeme Johnston's 3 years hard time sentence plus his fine of 200,000 Congolese Francs as well as Dathcom's 'remote' potential damages liability of US$25m.

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