AVZ Discussion 2022

[Azzler]

"Flacid Gentlemens Sausage" FMD @DiscoDanNZ

 

[cruiser51]

I assume I'm not the only one to receive the the MMGA spam email just now, I replied promptly and worded it carefully to avoid swear filters.

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My system did not allow to give them feedback, as it was sent from a mailing list.

So I went to their website and filed my feedback on that site, did it twice so they understand a flood will come if they don't stop with their crap
also I do not want to unsubscribe, because I did not subscribe, their email addy is blocked on my side fukkum.

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

My system did not allow to give them feedback, as it was sent from a mailing list.

So I went to their website and filed my feedback on that site, did it twice so they understand a flood will come if they don't stop with their crap
also I do not want to unsubscribe, because I did not subscribe, their email addy is blocked on my side fukkum.

Try hitting reply all? Worked for me

 

[Spikerama]

I find it amusing... you know, when you look at people responding to my video being shared on twitter. It's as if it's a brand new scandal. When in fact it has been floating around for over a year or more as the other version.

Just goes to show how much attention people actually pay and how much you really need to spell it out for them.

That's why when I post, I don't post multiple images. Every single piece is a standalone image so it can't be missed by being cropped into a collage or gallery by the app.

And where I can, I will always try to post in French. Just removes another barrier to hitting your target. And it's great to now see a lot of others doing the same thing.

Well done all. Keep it up folks.

 

[JAG]

I find it amusing... you know, when you look at people responding to my video being shared on twitter. It's as if it's a brand new scandal. When in fact it has been floating around for over a year or more as the other version.

Just goes to show how much attention people actually pay and how much you really need to spell it out for them.

That's why when I post, I don't post multiple images. Every single piece is a standalone image so it can't be missed by being cropped into a collage or gallery by the app.

And where I can, I will always try to post in French. Just removes another barrier to hitting your target. And it's great to now see a lot of others doing the same thing.

Well done all. Keep it up folks.

 

[Dom1974]

Remember, only takes a few minutes to email FIRB. Hopefully enough emails will have them raid MMGA HQ..

foreigninvestmentcompliance@treasury.gov.au

 

[cruiser51]

Try hitting reply all? Worked for me

will do

 

[JNRB]

If the MMGA goons (Massive Money Grubbing Arseholes) have enough votes to vote themselves up then by corollary they have enough votes to vote everyone else down

Why Deboss keeps muddying the waters rather than listen to management on how to vote is beyond me

The outcome we want is NO MMGA goons at all and our FIVE board endorsed nominees to get a seat at the table (2 re-elected + the 3 recently appointed and having to nominate)

It's simple and management have clearly advised how they want you to vote

OK this logic is a little flawed and relies on some assumptions that need to be clarified.

Just like those against MMGA do not represent a homogeneous block, my assumption is the same on the other side.
They may have a large group of holder that they're working in concert with, and who will all vote in coordination. But we've seen how hard they're fighting to contact other holders to sway them to their position. 2 things from this:
1. They probably don't have the votes themselves to force through the resolutions they want
2. Anyone that they may manage to convince to vote in favour of an MMGA director via solicitation and marketing (/fearmongering) is not part of their coordinated block, and so we cannot make assumptions on their other votes.

All that to say, there are not simply 2 voting blocks in this election that are entirely congruous within themselves and entirely mutually exclusive.

MMGA especially will be relying on the 'swing-voters' (for lack of a better term) who may not entirely agree with them but are just a bit fed up after 2 years of being left in the dark while our investment goes through a shitshow. The 1 thing you have to give MMGA credit for is it has forced the BoD to give us more information about what is happening.

 

[Dom1974]

Looking at the T20, there are 675m votes that could go to MMGA, assuming all chinese shareholders vote that way. So AVZ shareholders need to make sure that more than 675m vote in Board's favour, so they don't get the 51% required. Add them both up, that's 1.35b shares. Last year's AGM there were 1.3b shares voted. Hopefully, spreading the word and Board contacting shareholders will result in a record vote % this year. If MMGA thought they had the numbers, they wouldn't be spreading their BS. Some dirt on MMGA I think will be released over coming weeks (according to some on X), so that hopefully puts a little dent in their numbers.

 

[SilentOne]

Looking at the T20, there are 675m votes that could go to MMGA, assuming all chinese shareholders vote that way. So AVZ shareholders need to make sure that more than 675m vote in Board's favour, so they don't get the 51% required. Add them both up, that's 1.35b shares. Last year's AGM there were 1.3b shares voted. Hopefully, spreading the word and Board contacting shareholders will result in a record vote % this year. If MMGA thought they had the numbers, they wouldn't be spreading their BS. Some dirt on MMGA I think will be released over coming weeks (according to some on X), so that hopefully puts a little dent in their numbers.

The other good thing is that a number of people have found the MMGA material in their Spam Folder including myself - allot of people dont check that folder so it will be interesting to see how effective the email campaign is. It should also be noted that many people who have found the emails from MMGA have marked them as Spam and therefore that will flag through the email provider such as Gmail and Hotmail I suspect.

I dont see them being overly effective with their email campaign and if they phone me I will have a couple of choice words for them.


Regards,

SilentOne.

 

[Dom1974]

The emails only make up 28% of the register and guaranteed half of them would know MMGA BS campaign, some won’t even open it and some probably go to spam. So yeah, wouldn’t be hanging my hopes on that avenue if I were Lenny.

 

[Winenut]

OK this logic is a little flawed and relies on some assumptions that need to be clarified.

Just like those against MMGA do not represent a homogeneous block, my assumption is the same on the other side.
They may have a large group of holder that they're working in concert with, and who will all vote in coordination. But we've seen how hard they're fighting to contact other holders to sway them to their position. 2 things from this:
1. They probably don't have the votes themselves to force through the resolutions they want
2. Anyone that they may manage to convince to vote in favour of an MMGA director via solicitation and marketing (/fearmongering) is not part of their coordinated block, and so we cannot make assumptions on their other votes.

All that to say, there are not simply 2 voting blocks in this election that are entirely congruous within themselves and entirely mutually exclusive.

MMGA especially will be relying on the 'swing-voters' (for lack of a better term) who may not entirely agree with them but are just a bit fed up after 2 years of being left in the dark while our investment goes through a shitshow. The 1 thing you have to give MMGA credit for is it has forced the BoD to give us more information about what is happening.

I understand the sublety of your point....

We can't necessarily know how the "swing" voters will vote outside of "presumably" resolutions 9,10 and 17

Appreciate the post and the contribution to additional clarity

Cheers

 

[Jazz]

The other good thing is that a number of people have found the MMGA material in their Spam Folder including myself - allot of people dont check that folder so it will be interesting to see how effective the email campaign is. It should also be noted that many people who have found the emails from MMGA have marked them as Spam and therefore that will flag through the email provider such as Gmail and Hotmail I suspect.

I dont see them being overly effective with their email campaign and if they phone me I will have a couple of choice words for them.


Regards,

SilentOne.

Or let them know you are onboard, so they don’t keep trying so hard.

 

[Schnitzelfresser]

To the German members here who were having trouble getting their HIN or voting, try as tweeted here:

https://x.com/TREAL1717/status/1719517799675220303?s=20

Can somebody also confirm that this is really Ben Cohens Email in this tweet? Don't want to send my details to any Chinese entity...

 

[Doc]

Can somebody also confirm that this is really Ben Cohens Email in this tweet? Don't want to send my details to any Chinese entity...

admin@avzminerals.com.au check with the official AVZ email

 

[LithiumKing]

Remember, only takes a few minutes to email FIRB. Hopefully enough emails will have them raid MMGA HQ..

foreigninvestmentcompliance@treasury.gov.au

Thanks Dom - just sent a note now

 

[LithiumKing]

what a Mickey Mouse organisation using Mailchimp- I wonder if they used the trial free option

 

[CDK222]

Just replied to their email

 

[Retrobyte]

what a Mickey Mouse organisation using Mailchimp- I wonder if they used the trial free option
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[BRICK]

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Wrong first name there.
Should be Ura