AVZ Discussion 2022

[TDITD]

 

[Dave Evans]

9cardomaha also belives we will get the verdict this week(ish). Anyone know how to work that damn ICC site to search cases?

Yeah I was just repeating what 9card said. But it wasn't definite as it depends on a few factors. Shouldn't be too much long especially with AVZ's lawyers getting up in the ICC's grill about Zijin's announcement.

This is one that I'm aware of but it's not much help at the moment:

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Here’s a couple of links https://iccwbo.org/dispute-resolution/dispute-resolution-services/arbitration/ https://iccwbo.org/contact-us-online-enquiry/

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[Xerof]

From the Amended NofM:

"the Fat Tail strategy has always been unworkable because it can be safely assumed none of the Fat Tail Nominees would ever actually seek to advance it once fully cognisant of the evidence in the possession of the Company regarding the conduct of the potential counterparties to the Fat tail strategy."

I'm waiting.......

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Ok so based on the new announcement, there are now 5 vacancies, so we have to ensure Casta, Serge, and Salome are Elected, not re-elected. So stop voting for randoms like the Hadley's and vote how the board want you to vote. Don't fuck it up dogs

 

[Xerof]

Ok so based on the new announcement, there are now 5 vacancies, so we have to ensure Casta, Serge, and Salome are Elected, not re-elected. So stop voting for randoms like the Hadley's and vote how the board want you to vote. Don't fuck it up dogs

My thoughts exactly (except for dogs, who don't get a vote)

My worry is those who have mailed paper votes back, won't be able to change them

Maybe a question for AUTOMIC - can paper votes be usurped by registering online and updating?

 

[Hodlandwin69]

My thoughts exactly (except for dogs, who don't get a vote)

My worry is those who have mailed paper votes back, won't be able to change them

Maybe a question for AUTOMIC - can paper votes be usurped by registering online and updating?

I meant dogs as a term of endearment. Loyal, Man's best friend kinda dawwg

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Kinda of a big fuck up from AVZ tbh with this voting thing.

 

[BRICK]

Hve these kooks literally copied AVZ forward looking statement or am i reading this wrong?

 

[antimatter]

Ok so based on the new announcement, there are now 5 vacancies, so we have to ensure Casta, Serge, and Salome are Elected, not re-elected. So stop voting for randoms like the Hadley's and vote how the board want you to vote. Don't fuck it up dogs

In other word, if any of Resolution 2 - 17 is successful, it will be to the detriment/losing of the 5 nominees (res 18-22) that the BoD wants. Now, I understand why the BoD needs us to vote NO for Res 2-17. Will go back to change the voting.

 

[Winenut]

Can someone tell @Deboss because the voting he has been promoting on Twitter X etc will COMPLETELY FUCK UP everything

Get it fucking right here

VOTE AS THE BOARD HAS ADVISED and forget everything fucking else

 

[GD4]

In other word, if any of Resolution 2 - 17 is successful, it will be to the detriment/losing of the 5 nominees (res 18-22) that the BoD wants. Now, I understand why the BoD needs us to vote NO for Res 2-17. Will go back to change the voting.

Hi Antimatter,

I don't think that's correct. There are 5 "vacant" directorships not 7. John (19) and Greame (18) are up for re-elction so there positions are voted on seperately and not apart of the vacant 5.

Deboss's strategy makes sense vote the Hadley's in before getting to the Fat Tail nomiees and then we have a 4-3 BOD if the Fat Tail nominees get in even prior to the vote on John and Greame.

GLTAH

DYOR

 

[Winenut]

Hi Antimatter,

I don't think that's correct. There are 5 "vacant" directorships not 7. John (19) and Greame (18) are up for re-elction so there positions are voted on seperately and not apart of the vacant 5.

Deboss's strategy makes sense vote the Hadley's in before getting to the Fat Tail nomiees then we have a 4-3 BOD if the Fat Tail nominees get in even prior to the vote on John and Greame.

GLTAH

DYOR

No it doesn't

Read the latest announcement from the company

It has to be AGAINST 2-17 and FOR 18-22....nothing else

I'm leaving resolution 1 out of it and concentrating on the election of directors which is THE CRITICAL ISSUE

 

[Winenut]

Hi Antimatter,

I don't think that's correct. There are 5 "vacant" directorships not 7. John (19) and Greame (18) are up for re-elction so there positions are voted on seperately and not apart of the vacant 5.

Deboss's strategy makes sense vote the Hadley's in before getting to the Fat Tail nomiees and then we have a 4-3 BOD if the Fat Tail nominees get in even prior to the vote on John and Greame.

GLTAH

DYOR

If you vote as per @Deboss you have the potential to vote in the Hadleys and almost any of the SH nominees before and after Ludbrook and Huljich before it even gets to Serge and the other recently appointed directors

Fuck Me

Have a look at his voting

 

[M.Bison]

If you vote as per @Deboss you have the potential to vote in the Hadleys and nearly all of the SH nominees before and after Ludbrook and Huljich before it even gets to Serge and the other recently appointed directors

Fuck Me

Have a look at his voting

View attachment 48427

If we get a couple of Hadleys over Serge & Costa because of this then fuck me we are dumb.

 

[Winenut]

If we get a couple of Hadleys over Serge & Costa because of this then fuck me we are dumb.

It would be a DISASTER

Everyone should vote as prescribed by the board

 

[GD4]

If you vote as per @Deboss you have the potential to vote in the Hadleys and amost any of the SH nominees before and after Ludbrook and Huljich before it even gets to Serge and the other recently appointed directors

Fuck Me

Have a look at his voting

View attachment 48427

With respect I think you missing the point, If by any chance the 3 Fat Tail nominees get enough votes to vote themselves in, they may also have enough votes to vote down Dr Casta, Serge and Salome. Voting as per Deboss's recommendation would safe guard against this.

 

[solo]

With respect I think you missing the point, If by any chance the 3 Fat Tail nominees get enough votes to vote themselves in, they may also have enough votes to vote down Dr Casta, Serge and Salome. Voting as per Deboss's recommendation would safe guard against this.

How Deboss recommendations can safe guard this???? If Fat Tail have enough votes then they will easily outnumber "For" votes for Hadleys and others. I've been saying this since day 1. Stop this bullshit and vote as per BOD recommendations.

 

[Azzler]

This is an AVZ Community Announcement

There was a misunderstanding in the way the voting works at the AGM, and as a result shareholders have been promoting the wrong advice on how to vote.
As is outlined in the latest AGM Supplemental Announcement, we need to change our votes if nessecary, for the best outcome for AVZ and it's shareholders.

We must VOTE AGAINST resolutions 2-17
And VOTE FOR resolutions 18-22

If you've already voted, please take the time to change your vote at www.automicgroup.com.au


* The misunderstanding was that there are 5 board positions vacant, and that the recent board appointed members would also be blocked.
The whole exercise would have not worked if we never had enough votes in the first place anyway.
So please vote as the board recommends.

 

[Azzler]

With respect I think you missing the point, If by any chance the 3 Fat Tail nominees get enough votes to vote themselves in, they may also have enough votes to vote down Dr Casta, Serge and Salome. Voting as per Deboss's recommendation would safe guard against this.

The blocking strategy would not have worked anyway if we didn't have the numbers to vote them in, VS those voting no to them.

And if we DO have the numbers, then MMGA wouldn't be getting in anyway, so as I see it this strategy wouldn't have made any difference.

 

[Winenut]

With respect I think you missing the point, If by any chance the 3 Fat Tail nominees get enough votes to vote themselves in, they may also have enough votes to vote down Dr Casta, Serge and Salome. Voting as per Deboss's recommendation would safe guard against this.

With respect I get the strategy on the Hadley votes but Deboss goes further and prescribes voting for every SH nominee below Ludbrook and Huljich

"IF" any of them garner enough votes you could end up with the Hadleys + 3 other non endorsed SH Nominees on the board all to the exclusion of Dr Casta , Serge and Salome (assuming the MMGA maggots don't have sufficient power to get themselves up or vote anyone down)

Just keep it simple and VOTE AS THE BOARD DIRECTS