AVZ Discussion 2022

Wil_Mar

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I am just. Sad. Im not stupid, but nonetheless have had my eggs all in one basket and was in the process of re-allocation quite literally before the trading halt. Quite literally, relationship lost, life on hold (first home buyer) etc etc. Not to be all doom and gloom - it’s been wearing. Appreciate everyone on here.

Feels like we’re getting “Sun Tszu’d”. Fighting with 1 hand behind our back.
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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Oh here we go, MMGA Ramping it up!


Was told we're about to get smashed with a campaign.

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Azzler

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I am just. Sad. Im not stupid, but nonetheless have had my eggs all in one basket and was in the process of re-allocation quite literally before the trading halt. Quite literally, relationship lost, life on hold (first home buyer) etc etc. Not to be all doom and gloom - it’s been wearing. Appreciate everyone on here.

Feels like we’re getting “Sun Tszu’d”. Fighting with 1 hand behind our back.
Mate chin up you're not the only one who is in similar situation.
I've lost SO much from this, all from my own choices of course, but wow, life is really fucked right now as a result.
It's not over yet mate.
 
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Wil_Mar

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Mate chin up you're not the only one who is in similar situation.
I've lost SO much from this, all from my own choices of course, but wow, life is really fucked right now as a result.
It's not over yet mate.
Thanks mate. Feel like if we have to play by the ASX rules, we should be afforded some support when competition is not on the same standing. Regardless, it’s a rollercoaster of emotions and I’m back to anger. I’ve done my votes as per the AVZ communique and if anyone needs help please reach out. I’m a Perth local, so I’m taking the day off for the AGM. Let’s just say I work for the biggest oil & gas Australian company so taking the day wasn’t straight forward but feel like we’re getting to the tip so wouldn’t miss it for the world!
 
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Mr_Tones83

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Wow I feel nauseated after reading MMGA's latest update.
We're now into outright deciet and villany!
I've decided I won't suffer through reading anything else that comes out of them.
Sewage treatment plants smell rosier than their BS.
 
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conveniently forgets that everything has been conducted illegally and in breach of ICC emergency injunction.
 
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conveniently forgets that everything has been conducted illegally and in breach of ICC emergency injunction.
As 9card points out well even with these new developments of a Zijin and Cominiere JV in the north there is still the potential of the ICSID awarding Dathcom its rights back, us winning a reinstatement of the Dathcom JVA within the DRC after the ICC confirms it isn't terminated or Felix coming in over the top of the MoM with a presidential order if there is an MoU for battery production in the works.
Gonna be an absolute nightmare turning all this back without support from Felix imo
 
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Chilla

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conveniently forgets that everything has been conducted illegally and in breach of ICC emergency injunction.
Guarantee that they didn’t try to meet with new Australian Ambassador to DRC either.

If by any chance they do get a seat or two…..and then try to implement a strategy along the lines of that stated by the BoD…..then they are setting themselves up for serious prison time in Australia.

DFAT, Federal Police and ASIC will be chasing them all over the place….no place to hide….Interpol mug shots…..once the election is over and President is comfy again he will throw the corrupt ministers to the wolves….plenty of evidence to be aired of corrupt practices and how these MMGA puppets received illegal corrupt payments.

Prison time coming for corrupt MMGA puppets
 
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Oh the irony. This also means that all the shit you dickheads chatted about non disclosure by AVZ of the purported (key word) sale of 15% of Dathcom from Cominiere to Jin Cheng is now meaningless. The Zijin announcement today confirms it was immaterial. Sensu stricto of course.
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Done :)
 

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kron

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Oh the irony. This also means that all the shit you dickheads chatted about non disclosure by AVZ of the purported (key word) sale of 15% of Dathcom from Cominiere to Jin Cheng is now meaningless. The Zijin announcement today confirms it was immaterial.

So the 15% they only paid a deposit for ( this was established a while back) was traded for 61% of the North that wasnt theirs to give... but wasn't the money returned also ??? I must be missing something here.
 
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Oh the irony. This also means that all the shit you dickheads chatted about non disclosure by AVZ of the purported (key word) sale of 15% of Dathcom from Cominiere to Jin Cheng is now meaningless. The Zijin announcement today confirms it was immaterial. Sensu stricto of course.
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Good luck with your claims about Dathomir non disclosure lmfao
 
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So the 15% they only paid a deposit for ( this was established a while back) was traded for 61% of the North that wasnt there's to give... but wasn't the money rreturned also ??? I must be missing something here.
The $33.4m USD has been allocated to part of the consideration for the new JV. Sale of the Dathcom 15% never happened as the asset has been retrocessed to its true owner as per Zijin offer to Cominiere. Sad.
 
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Submerge

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Long-term holder of AVZ (Nov 2016) and self-appointed lurker of TSE since having bailed the piss-take that is HC many moons ago. Appreciate all of the great research and input from many of the holders here.

We've seen better days, no doubt. You can sense the heightened anxiety of many holders here as we've been barraged this week with so much mis/dis-information. But one can't help but feel that this multi-faceted, multi-pronged attack is a final act of desperation from the various co-conspirators we are fighting against, and on one hand, it feels as though they're winning.

MMGA claim in their latest update that AVZ management are responsible for a "shocking state of relations" in-country with the key Government stakeholders.

If this is the case, then why would President Tshisekedi accept a meeting with Nigel only weeks ago? Tell me, what President would reasonably accept a meeting with an un-trusted party with whom they had a "shocking state of relations", when they could easily defer to one of their lower-rung Ministers (or less)?

My optimistic take is that the "MoU of Settlement" is in fact an arrangement where Cominiere & Zijin will share the Northern part of 13359, whilst we've secured a larger % of the Southern section (90+), perhaps with a newly-negotiated buy-in arrangement with CATH or a complete TO offer to settle the various legal matters. I don't see the Board wanting to re-list and take Manono to mine, given what has transpired.

It is genuinely difficult to remain optimistic during times like these - when nothing makes sense and all you're seeing and hearing is a continually negative diatribe. However, we must continue to go with what information is formally announced, as clearly, AVZ management are limited in terms of what they can announce (anti-corruption) and our detractors are more than happy to spread FUD in order to benefit their standing.

Good luck to all LT holders - we've certainly earned some luck to fall our way at this time.

I'll be backing the Board by Voting YES at the upcoming AGM.
 

JNRB

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This is a minor nit-pick but MMGA are not allowed to refer to themselves as "Nominated Directors" even though they do it repeatedly.

This is done to deliberately mislead people and create the impression that these people carry some sort of authority, which they do not. Adjective-noun, ie nominated-directors is still calling them directors - which again, as of now, they are not. They should be calling themselves 'director-nominees'

I'm not sure what the best (if any) way to pull them up on that is. But for those that are keeping a list of all the illegal and deliberately misleading tactics that have been used by these people - add this to the list.
 
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Gonna be an absolute nightmare turning all this back without support from Felix imo
Still amazes me that there has been no sign of US help or any other country with some testicles that don’t want the biggest lithium deposit being fraudulently taken for peanuts..
I have no faith in the Aus government doing jack shit but surely other countries see this as a strategic deposit..
Maybe the French can get involved with discussions with Felix since they are getting booted out of numerous other African countries. Would be a good way to offset their losses elsewhere.
Anyways I’m just rambling..
 
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webclever

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Just submitted xxx,xxxx vote for Resolution 1, 18 to 22 and against Resolution 2 - 17
Now switching off from social media until AGM.
 
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Charbella

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Still amazes me that there has been no sign of US help or any other country with some testicles that don’t want the biggest lithium deposit being fraudulently taken for peanuts..
I have no faith in the Aus government doing jack shit but surely other countries see this as a strategic deposit..
Maybe the French can get involved with discussions with Felix since they are getting booted out of numerous other African countries. Would be a good way to offset their losses elsewhere.
Anyways I’m just rambling..


The European Union (EU) is finalising partnerships with the Democratic Republic of Congo and Zambia to boost local industries as the bloc competes with China to secure critical materials for the green and digital sectors.

A planned memorandum of understanding will signal to both governments and the private sector the EU’s backing for developing local value chains given that a big part of the processing of critical materials, including lithium or cobalt, currently takes place in China, people familiar with the matter said.

The EU is aiming to diversify suppliers of key resources and counter China’s massive infrastructure investments in regions, including Africa.

The bloc has signed similar deals with Canada, Kazakhstan, Namibia, Ukraine, Argentina and Chile, and is also exploring accords with Rwanda and Uganda.

The EU plans to sign the partnerships during a forum of the Global Gateway, the EU’s €300 billion (R5.6 trillion) investment programme, in Brussels on October 25 and 26, said the people who asked not to be identified because the discussions are private. The meeting will bring together leaders from the EU, other countries and European business executives.

The talks with Congo followed a visit to Kinshasa in March by French President Emmanuel Macron and European Commissioner Thierry Breton, according to Andre Wameso, the deputy chief of staff for economic matters for Congolese President Felix Tshisekedi.

The EU wishes for a partnership for strategic primary materials, which the DRC accepted,” Wameso said in a text message. A Zambian official did not immediately reply to a request for comment.
These agreements will facilitate access to critical materials and will be part of the EU’s broader effort to develop the strategic Lobito/trans-Africa corridor, a railway project to connect Angola, the DRC and Zambia to allow for the shipping of raw materials and minerals across the Atlantic.
Congo is the world’s largest cobalt producer, and it vies with Peru as the second-largest producer of copper, thanks largely to a surge in Chinese investment in recent years. Zambia is also a key copper producer, and Western governments have been seeking to strike alliances with both countries to challenge China’s dominance in critical mineral supply chains.

Blinken deal​

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken last year signed a memorandum of understanding with Congo and Zambia to explore ways to support their plan to develop an electric-vehicle value chain together.
The EU and the US announced on the margins of the Group of 20 summit in New Delhi earlier this month their commitment to explore cooperation in transport infrastructure investments, trade facilitation measures, inclusive and sustainable economic growth and capital investment in the three countries of the Lobito/trans-Africa corridor.
As a first step, the EU and the US will support initial studies for the construction of the new Zambia-Lobito railway line from eastern Angola through northern Zambia.
“Our partnership will also invest in local value chains, in clean energy and in skills for the local workforce,” Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the European Commission, said in New Delhi.

“It is a whole new approach to large infrastructure investment.”










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