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Dave Evans
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China’s Zijin mine polluting Serbian village

asiafinancial.com
China’s Zijin Mining Polluting Serbian Village, Says Group


In Kolwezi in the Lualaba province where more than 39,000 people live. Hundreds of residents have received orders to leave their homes without being consulted after the plans to expand the ZIJIN mine. Many houses have already been destroyed

kongopress.com
Rapport d'Amnesty International sur les minerais des batteries et les droits humains bafoués en RDC...


Chinese ZIJIN MINING mocks Félix Tshisekedi's mining policy: COMMUS, a subsidiary of Zijin Mining, accused of serious human rights violations in Kolwezi

econewsrdc.com
Le Chinois ZIJIN MINING se moque de la politique minière de Félix Tshisekedi : COMMUS, une...


Lithium Manono: How is ZIJIN with the illegal 15% (IGF) part of DATHCOM without any court decision?

kongopress.com
Lithium Manono : Comment ZIJIN avec les 15% illégaux (IGF) fait-elle partie de DATHCOM sans aucune...


In less than a year, the company Zijin was convicted four times for the same commercial offence, each time fined below the legal minimum https://reri.org.rs/en/in-less-than-a-year-the-company-zijin-was-convicted-four-times-for-the-same-commercial-offence-each-time-fined-below-the-legal-minimum/#:~:text=News%20%2F%20Zijin%20Copper-,In%20less%20than%20a%20year%2C%20the%20company%20Zijin%20was%20convicted,the%20legal%20minimum%20each%20time.

reri.org.rs
In less than a year, the company Zijin was convicted four times for the same commercial offence,...


Zijin’s Negligence: How the Demolition of the Smelter Cost a Worker His Life 20 Mar 2023 Jovana Tomić, Dina Đorđević https://cins.rs/en/zijin-s-negligence-how-the-demolition-of-the-smelter-cost-a-worker-his-life/

Here’s an easy way to post Zijin corruption on Twitter. Should fit Twitter’s format. Zijin are flat out trying to make themselves look good on Twitter.

You just have to copy the titles then click on the links and add them.

Remember all the paid corrupt lying articles they put out last year in the DRC to undermine us. Time for payback….


Zijin polluting Serbian village http://asiafinancial.com/chinas-zijin-mining-polluting-serbian-village-says-group
Zijin human rights violations in Kolwezi https://econewsrdc.com/le-chinois-zijin-mining-se-moque-de-la-politique-miniere-de-felix-tshisekedi-commus-une-filiale-de-zijin-mining-accusee-de-violations-graves-des-droits-humains-a-kolwezi/
Worker loses life at Zijin mine
https://cins.rs/en/zijin-s-negligence-how-the-demolition-of-the-smelter-cost-a-worker-his-life/
Zijin convicted 4 times in a year https://reri.org.rs/en/in-less-than-a-year-the-company-zijin-was-convicted-four-times-for-the-same-commercial-offence-each-time-fined-below-the-legal-minimum/#:~:text=News%20%2F%20Zijin%20Copper-,In%20less%20than%20a%20year%2C%20the%20company%20Zijin%20was%20convicted,the%20legal%20minimum%20each%20time
Illegal Zijin sale
kongopress.com
Lithium Manono : Comment ZIJIN avec les 15% illégaux (IGF) fait-elle partie de DATHCOM sans aucune...
 
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probbaly because he has a mouth full of P3nis
"probbably [sic] because he has a mouth full of p3nis"

What are you actually trying to say here @MDRY ? What is your point? That having a mouth full of penis is bad or wrong in some way? And that we should all laugh and say, "Yeah, mouth full of penis. It's got to be. How bad is that? He sucks a cock, oooh."

I'm really interested in what sort of hurtful and demeaning explanation you come up with that vilifies people of TSE who actually might be gay. Or women in here who enjoy the company of men.

Let's hear it.
 
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"probbably [sic] because he has a mouth full of p3nis"

What are you actually trying to say here @MDRY ? What is your point? That having a mouth full of penis is bad or wrong in some way? And that we should all laugh and say, "Yeah, mouth full of penis. It's got to be. How bad is that? He sucks a cock, oooh."

I'm really interested in what sort of hurtful and demeaning explanation you come up with that vilifies people of TSE who actually might be gay. Or women in here who enjoy the company of men.

Let's hear it.
Well its hard to write articles with cock in your mouth, so I've heard. I'm sure he didn't mean it derogatory.
 
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MMGA is a flanking tool explicitly utilised to attack 'supposed' weak points... The Art of War - Sun Tzu

AVZ has direct conflicts with Cominiere, Zijin and Dathomir... side attack (flanking) from MMGA (i.e. all working in concert)...

MMGA 'appear' to be highly credentialed (also corrupt), however cannot be compared to recently appointed directors in Dr Casta and Serge (please compare apples with apples)...

MMGA employ a blame orientated narrative, with respect to attempted AVZ communications, as seen on Twitter/X (blame follows resentment and anger = Peters discharge)...

This post is directed at the fence-sitters/lurkers/undecided... please do your own research, as a win for AVZ and the DRC population could be the catalyst needed for other African nations...


MMGA = NO
 
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probbaly because he has a mouth full of P3nis
"probbably [sic] because he has a mouth full of p3nis"

What are you actually trying to say here @MDRY ? What is your point? That having a mouth full of penis is bad or wrong in some way? And that we should all laugh and say, "Yeah, mouth full of penis. It's got to be. How bad is that? He sucks a cock, oooh."

I'm really interested in what sort of hurtful and demeaning explanation you come up with that vilifies people of TSE who actually might be gay. Or women in here who enjoy the company of men.

Let's hear it.
Well its hard to write articles with cock in your mouth, so I've heard. I'm sure he didn't mean it derogatory.
 
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"probbably [sic] because he has a mouth full of p3nis"

What are you actually trying to say here @MDRY ? What is your point? That having a mouth full of penis is bad or wrong in some way? And that we should all laugh and say, "Yeah, mouth full of penis. It's got to be. How bad is that? He sucks a cock, oooh."

I'm really interested in what sort of hurtful and demeaning explanation you come up with that vilifies people of TSE who actually might be gay. Or women in here who enjoy the company of men.

Let's hear it.
Actually you are totally right and I apologise Spike.
That was out of line and insensitive!
Apologies
 
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Mate I think Spikerama was taking the p1ss . At least I hope he/she was . Can't see the connection between being Gay or a women loving some manly attention and Tommy Turdbag doing tricks for tips . One has nothing to do with the other . ALL IMO only
Well anyway I wouldn’t want to offend any of the legends on here - my anger is aimed at Tommy the turdbag 💩
I’ve asked zeebot to remove the post!
 
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Spikerama

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Actually you are totally right and I apologise Spike.
That was out of line and insensitive!
Apologies

No worries mate. Not purely directed at you but I've had a gutfull of it. It needs to end now.

You're a stand up man for realising how hurtful it can be to people who have to read it day in day out. On top of everything else we have to deal with.

Good on you for that. :)
 
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BRICK

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No worries mate. Not purely directed at you but I've had a gutfull of it. It needs to end now.

You're a stand up man for realising how hurtful it can be to people who have to read it day in day out. On top of everything else we have to deal with.

Good on you for that. :)
Thanks spike 🙏🏼

Sin binning myself for the rest of the evening!
😂
 
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wombat74

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While we are completely off topic can we take a moment to remember the genius that was Barry Humphries

 
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JAG

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Someone on HC posted the ICSID case details had been updated.

Third/Presiding Arbitor has been assigned 28/09

Based on closed cases, the first meeting is usually 6-8 weeks after this appointment.
Which is a first session via video conference.

That lands us at Mid to Late November (roughly)
So just roughly 6-8 weeks for the hopeful 'resolutions' between the DRC Govt and AVZ, before it proceeds formally on the world stage.
 
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Latest Development:
September 28, 2023 - The Tribunal is constituted in accordance with Article 37(2)(a) of the ICSID Convention. Its members are: Jan Paulsson (Bahraini/French/Swedish), President, appointed by agreement of the parties; Salim Moollan (British/French/Mauritius), appointed by Claimants; and Mohamed Shelbaya (Egyptian/French), appointed by Respondent.
 
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A very succinct post by Combaste yesterday - worth a read for those who don’t visit HC.

combaste
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28/09/23

17:37

Post #: 70081295
Hello investors.

About the announcement:

For some investors, the sheer number of lawsuits and parties in this story may be a bit confusing.
Don't be fooled because the law acts correctly and processes everything in order.

- The Dathcom JV was incorporated on December 28, 2016 (signature) with AVZ 60%, Cominiere 30% and Dathomir 10% as of January 27, 2017, which became effective by all registrations on March 25, 2017.

- Cominiere has ceded 5% to Dathomir, so AVZ 60%, Cominiere 25%, Dathomir 15%
- Dathomir sold 5% in 2019 and 10% in 2020 to AVZ. Dathomir therefore left the JV and the shares were redistributed.AVZ 75% and Cominiere 25%.
- AVZ has agreed a right of first refusal for a further 15% with Cominiere.

In the JV contract it was agreed that disagreements would be resolved exclusively between the partners of the JV before an international arbitration tribunal. (Arbitration clause)Parties outside the JV have no rights!

Here are the facts in order and some opinions from me

1. First, it is determined whether Jin Cheng is allowed to initiate proceedings at all since they are not partners in the JV.- You are/were not a partner in the JV!- If this is decided, which I believe will be the case since the ICC has refused to merge the cases, Jin Cheng will leave the court and all further proceedings will be ineffective.The sale of 15% to Jin Cheng also becomes invalid

2. Injunction against Cominiere dated April 11, 2023 with a fine of 50,000 per day.Since Cominiere attempted to transfer PR 13359 and also publicly insisted on the dissolution of the JV, in my opinion the condition was violated. By October 5, 2023, a fine of $7.9 million would be due for 158 daily rates.

With points 1 and 2 it would be clear that AVZ owns 75% (60% + 15% Dathomir point 3) and has 15% right of first refusal from Cominiere.
The joint venture consists of AVZ and Cominiere!

3. Dathomir is contesting the purchase agreement from 2019 (5%) and 2020 (10%). We are all curious to hear the reasoning as the sale was completed with full payment and experienced business people were involved on both sides.
In my opinion, AVZ will win these cases.

When point 1 is completed, I also think that the ML will be granted and the state will then intervene regarding Cominiere, as there will then be legal certainty. If the investigation is correct, it is unlikely that the proceedings against DRC will continue before the ICSID.


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A very succinct post by Combaste yesterday - worth a read for those who don’t visit HC.

combaste
126 Posts.
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28/09/23

17:37

Post #: 70081295
Hello investors.
About the announcement:
For some investors, the sheer number of lawsuits and parties in this story may be a bit confusing.
Don't be fooled because the law acts correctly and processes everything in order.
- The Dathcom JV was incorporated on December 28, 2016 (signature) with AVZ 60%, Cominiere 30% and Dathomir 10% as of January 27, 2017, which became effective by all registrations on March 25, 2017.
- Cominiere has ceded 5% to Dathomir, so AVZ 60%, Cominiere 25%, Dathomir 15%
- Dathomir sold 5% in 2019 and 10% in 2020 to AVZ. Dathomir therefore left the JV and the shares were redistributed.AVZ 75% and Cominiere 25%.
- AVZ has agreed a right of first refusal for a further 15% with Cominiere.

In the JV contract it was agreed that disagreements would be resolved exclusively between the partners of the JV before an international arbitration tribunal. (Arbitration clause)Parties outside the JV have no rights!

Here are the facts in order and some opinions from me
1. First, it is determined whether Jin Cheng is allowed to initiate proceedings at all since they are not partners in the JV.- You are/were not a partner in the JV!- If this is decided, which I believe will be the case since the ICC has refused to merge the cases, Jin Cheng will leave the court and all further proceedings will be ineffective.The sale of 15% to Jin Cheng also becomes invalid

2. Injunction against Cominiere dated April 11, 2023 with a fine of 50,000 per day.Since Cominiere attempted to transfer PR 13359 and also publicly insisted on the dissolution of the JV, in my opinion the condition was violated. By October 5, 2023, a fine of $7.9 million would be due for 158 daily rates.

With points 1 and 2 it would be clear that AVZ owns 75% (60% + 15% Dathomir point 3) and has 15% right of first refusal from Cominiere.
The joint venture consists of AVZ and Cominiere!

3. Dathomir is contesting the purchase agreement from 2019 (5%) and 2020 (10%). We are all curious to hear the reasoning as the sale was completed with full payment and experienced business people were involved on both sides.
In my opinion, AVZ will win these cases.

When point 1 is completed, I also think that the ML will be granted and the state will then intervene regarding Cominiere, as there will then be legal certainty. If the investigation is correct, it is unlikely that the proceedings against DRC will continue before the ICSID.


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Why would that cocksucka Tommy decide to unblock everyone all of a sudden and kick back at Jag and the like? Timing wise I wonder why now, could it be they've realised Zijin and all this crap is about to be kicked out - or is it more sinister ?
 
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