AVZ Discussion 2022

[oxxa23]

https://x.com/MinMinesRDC/status/1707130406456193160?s=20


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#RDC_MINES 09/21/2023 | VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OF THE MINISTER OF MINES ANTOINETTE N'SAMBA KALAMBAYI IN THE OECD PANEL TO ANSWER CERTAIN QUESTIONS ON CRITICAL MINERALS. The Minister of Mines
@anskalambayi
, participated on Thursday, September 21, 2023, in a high-level panel of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), by videoconference to answer a range of questions on minerals criticism in the mining sector in the Democratic Republic of Congo. This is with the aim of raising the voices of African countries in the run-up to the summit being organized on minerals and clean energy of the International Energy Agency, IEA, scheduled for September 28 2023 in Paris. In doing so, responding to the question of the natural resources available to the DRC and how this country intends to use them, the Minister of Mines of the DRC affirmed that her country is rich and has various natural resources, particularly gold. , diamond, copper; cobalt, lithium and many others, some of which are currently being exploited and others in the research phase depending on the data collected. To this end, with the exploitation of all these minerals, the DRC, part of the logic of development of value chains, aims to export semi-finished manufactured products such as battery precursors and finished products such as telephone batteries. , computer and electric vehicles. Regarding cooperation between the DRC and Zambia on the joint manufacturing of electric vehicles and batteries with funding from the United States, the head of Mines said that the DRC and Zambia share the same copper belt and face the same challenges. . To reap more benefits, the 2 countries could only pool resources, capacities and efforts in order to achieve common objectives. To achieve these objectives, it was decided to create the special economic zone with its corollary tax advantages. To all this, the saving initiative of setting up a center of excellence for battery research and development which crowns this ambition for fruitful cooperation. The concern about the management of the harmful effects of mining extraction to protect the population and the environment, the Minister of Mines
@anskalambayi
was clear, she fixed the opinion regarding the legislation in force which obliges the development of impact studies of mining activities on the environment. Continuing its intervention on the question of the DRC's actions in the face of deforestation and the loss of biodiversity caused by the extraction of green minerals, the Congolese Mines Authority revealed that the DRC has taken appropriate measures for the protection of the environment and communities living in the territory where mining projects exist, in particular, mitigation and rehabilitation plans as well as financial security. To close the loop, the Patron of Mines, on behalf of the DRC, affirmed, I quote: “We are aware of the problem of global warming and its consequences on our lives, the DRC with the help of its mineral resources green, wants to work with all investors, and wants an operating partnership that is win-win, this is how we will end the zero-sum partnership,” end of quote.

 

[oxxa23]

Well what the fuck does that all mean?

Interesting.....

yeah, not exactly sure..... she had clarified (well kind of) the earlier rights taken away from the companies... see below..


https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsa...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/


IN THE FEATURES

DRC: Antoinette N'samba denies accusations of alleged cancellation of the exploitation rights of 29 mining companies​

https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/
The Minister of Mines, Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi provided an update on an article from the French media Jeune Afrique, on the forfeiture of the operating rights of certain mining companies working in the Democratic Republic of Congo, for which according to the boss of the mines, “contains untruths”.
Happy
Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal systemLuinyx
This clarification was made in a press release signed Friday September 15, a copy of which reached the editorial staff of MINES.CD this Monday September 18.
According to the Minister of Mines, the assertion that, “on July 31, 2023, an order was signed by Michel Kibonge Nyekuma, his chief of staff, canceled the exploitation rights of 29 companies on deposits in DRC” is “devoid” of logic and meaning. To this end, she specifies, the cabinet director “does not sign an order”.
“The author should have informed himself about the ABCs of Congolese public law before holding his pen. Rather, it is 61 orders signed by the Minister of Mines that I am; secondly, it was not a question of canceling the mining rights. Rather, the holders were stripped of their rights to these permits for legal reasons. Forfeiture does not affect the validity of a mining right when the forfeited holder has filed an appeal. “, she continued.
Jeune Afrique had also affirmed that “the Congolese State has not formally justified the reasons for this decision”, therefore Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi recalled the reasons for this forfeiture of mining rights.
“This assertion sufficiently demonstrates that the author of the article did not have access to the criticized decisions: the orders were indeed justified, the forfeiture was based on the failure to draw up the responsibility specifications societal,” recalled the minister.
However, the Congolese government sees in all the “caricatural” comments a desire to tarnish the image of the country's mining sector for reasons that “only the author of this article knows”.

Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal system​

According to the mining boss, certain mining companies operating in the Democratic Republic of Congo have “no concern for the environment or the local communities” impacted by their mining projects, notwithstanding the legal system governing the mining sector in the country. .
“For example, there have been several reports of loss of life at the Boss Mining site,” she said, while asserting that everyone is aware that companies are today evaluated on the basis of ESG reviews, with regard to taking into account sustainable development and long-term issues in the strategy of economic players.
The Government of the Republic, she insisted, had no other choice than to activate legal mechanisms to force mining operators to comply with environmental and social requirements, in the face of environmental damage and recurring social disasters.

Luinyx​

 

[Xerof]

Well what the fuck does that all mean?

Interesting.....

It means we can expect the ML to be issued.

yeah, not exactly sure..... she had clarified (well kind of) the earlier rights taken away from the companies... see below..


https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsa...its-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/


IN THE FEATURES

DRC: Antoinette N'samba denies accusations of alleged cancellation of the exploitation rights of 29 mining companies​

https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://mines.cd/rdc-antoinette-nsamba-dement-les-accusations-dune-pretendue-annulation-des-droits-dexploitation-de-29-entreprises-minieres/
The Minister of Mines, Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi provided an update on an article from the French media Jeune Afrique, on the forfeiture of the operating rights of certain mining companies working in the Democratic Republic of Congo, for which according to the boss of the mines, “contains untruths”.
Happy
Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal systemLuinyx
This clarification was made in a press release signed Friday September 15, a copy of which reached the editorial staff of MINES.CD this Monday September 18.
According to the Minister of Mines, the assertion that, “on July 31, 2023, an order was signed by Michel Kibonge Nyekuma, his chief of staff, canceled the exploitation rights of 29 companies on deposits in DRC” is “devoid” of logic and meaning. To this end, she specifies, the cabinet director “does not sign an order”.
“The author should have informed himself about the ABCs of Congolese public law before holding his pen. Rather, it is 61 orders signed by the Minister of Mines that I am; secondly, it was not a question of canceling the mining rights. Rather, the holders were stripped of their rights to these permits for legal reasons. Forfeiture does not affect the validity of a mining right when the forfeited holder has filed an appeal. “, she continued.
Jeune Afrique had also affirmed that “the Congolese State has not formally justified the reasons for this decision”, therefore Antoinette N'samba Kalambayi recalled the reasons for this forfeiture of mining rights.
“This assertion sufficiently demonstrates that the author of the article did not have access to the criticized decisions: the orders were indeed justified, the forfeiture was based on the failure to draw up the responsibility specifications societal,” recalled the minister.
However, the Congolese government sees in all the “caricatural” comments a desire to tarnish the image of the country's mining sector for reasons that “only the author of this article knows”.

Mining companies accused of disregarding the rules of the legal system​

According to the mining boss, certain mining companies operating in the Democratic Republic of Congo have “no concern for the environment or the local communities” impacted by their mining projects, notwithstanding the legal system governing the mining sector in the country. .
“For example, there have been several reports of loss of life at the Boss Mining site,” she said, while asserting that everyone is aware that companies are today evaluated on the basis of ESG reviews, with regard to taking into account sustainable development and long-term issues in the strategy of economic players.
The Government of the Republic, she insisted, had no other choice than to activate legal mechanisms to force mining operators to comply with environmental and social requirements, in the face of environmental damage and recurring social disasters.

Luinyx​

lets get real, it has NOTHING to do with AVZ. It has everything to do with 29 OPERATING mines who were not adhering to ESG requirements.

End of story, see oxxa post, thanks mate

 

[Winenut]

lets get real, it has NOTHING to do with AVZ. It has everything to do with 29 OPERATING mines who were not adhering to ESG requirements.

End of story, see oxxa post, thanks mate

On the combined bases of experience and probability I assumed the response from Geo was a load of fucking shite......

 

[Misfits]

Well what the fuck does that all mean?

Interesting.....

It means we can expect the ML to be issued.

NOT CORRECT. Nothing to do with us, to do with the companies that had their ML taken away from them

 

[wombat74]

NOT CORRECT. Nothing to do with us, to do with the companies that had their ML taken away from them

Shows she is flexible nonetheless .

 

[oxxa23]

Shows she is flexible nonetheless .

she does yoga...

 

[wombat74]

she does yoga...

Serge did say we are in Very advanced discussions with the DRC gov . Who would that be with? So who knows . If she can change her mind on other projects maybe she can do the same for AVZ .

 

[Dom1974]

Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?

 

[Xerof]

From the Sept 27th announcement
"The preliminary question is currently listed for hearing on 5 and 6 October 2023."

Infers anything might happen imo, including getting covid from eating the laboratory bats brains, served as an entree on the China Airways flight

 

[Carlos Danger]

Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?

From the Sept 27th announcement
"The preliminary question is currently listed for hearing on 5 and 6 October 2023."

Infers anything might happen imo, including getting covid from eating the laboratory bats brains, served as an entree on the China Airways flight

The ICC has had enough of Zijin's games. Sick bags will be provided if necessary imo

 

[Penskefile]

Who thinks Zijin will actually turn up on Thursday? Will they bail last minute or say the whole legal team got struck down with food poisoning the night before and request another delay?

Zijin‘s getting some tips from Jamaal Bowman

 

[Frank]

Presidential 2023: “fraud is planned”, warns Dénis Mukwege before announcing the submission of his candidacy this Tuesday to the CENI

Denis Mukwege will submit his candidacy this Tuesday, October 3, at the headquarters of the independent national electoral commission.

He made this announcement during his address to the nation in front of his supporters and some political figures.

“The fraud is already planned, we not only need to go and vote, but also ensure that our votes will not be stolen.

The last three electoral cycles must serve as a lesson to us,” he warned.

Very determined, the Nobel Prize winner says he wants to save the Democratic Republic of Congo.

“I am leaving my comfort to save the Congo which is disappearing from the map of Africa.

Our country has become the shame of the interior and the laughing stock of the world.

Our place is on the development podium. To get there, we need work and discipline,” he added.

mediacongo

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Presidential 2023: “fraud is planned”, warns Dénis Mukwege before announcing the submission of his candidacy this Tuesday to the CENI

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Denis Mukwege will submit his candidacy this Tuesday, October 3, at the headquarters of the independent national electoral commission.

He made this announcement during his address to the nation in front of his supporters and some political figures.

“The fraud is already planned, we not only need to go and vote, but also ensure that our votes will not be stolen.

The last three electoral cycles must serve as a lesson to us,” he warned.

Very determined, the Nobel Prize winner says he wants to save the Democratic Republic of Congo.

“I am leaving my comfort to save the Congo which is disappearing from the map of Africa.

Our country has become the shame of the interior and the laughing stock of the world.

Our place is on the development podium. To get there, we need work and discipline,” he added.

mediacongo

Seems like a good person and candidate. Do you's want FT to win or this dude?

 

[wombat74]

Seems like a good person and candidate. Do you's want FT to win or this dude?

The election will be rigged . The winner already knows who he is . IMO

 

[Carlos Danger]

The election will be rigged . The winner already knows who he is . IMO

Gringos already know too imo

Dunkle Wolken am Horizont - afrika-sued.org

www.afrika-sued.org

According to insiders in Washington, there is an explanation for this leniency: the US has an agenda. Indeed, the United States is prepared to turn a blind eye to hastily organized elections in the DRC, however contentious, and will fund them no matter what. In return, however, Washington expects Kinshasa to subject the export of raw materials such as cobalt, copper and lithium to China to significantly stricter conditions.

 

[geo_au]

On the combined bases of experience and probability I assumed the response from Geo was a load of fucking shite......

If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.

NOT CORRECT. Nothing to do with us, to do with the companies that had their ML taken away from them

The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.

 

[thorgin]

If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.

 

[TDITD]

If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.

Yes seen a little bit of MOM being in the news lately backtracking, good chance we are next. On evidence of her behaviour it seems she was not a champion of AVZ, but simply sided with whoever was 'winning', naughty lawyer.

The quiet before the storm at the moment, although I wonder if there is a storm in the offices of the AVZ lawyers with Zijin panicking and trying to come to a deal before ICC?
Zijin couldn't possibly offer what at this stage would be our requirements as they have backed themselves so strongly into their little corner with Comineire and Dathomir.

Looking forward to hearing from Franck hopefully around 6th on what's been happening in the courtroom. Will the ICC revelations be a catalyst for the DRC to finally take action? Or will they ignore again like the IGF? How much evidence is enough?

Should be a good few weeks.

 

[Carlos Danger]

If that's how you interpret it then you're wrong. We are currently going through a legal process and once that's sorted out in our favour off we go mining.
The DRC is lifting its game and is now in the spotlight thanks to the E.U. and the U.S. Simply put we were shafted by bad actors so there days are numbered. The MoM is on the defensive and now has to act. Simple as that.

Yes seen a little bit of MOM being in the news lately backtracking, good chance we are next. On evidence of her behaviour it seems she was not a champion of AVZ, but simply sided with whoever was 'winning', naughty lawyer.

The quiet before the storm at the moment, although I wonder if there is a storm in the offices of the AVZ lawyers with Zijin panicking and trying to come to a deal before ICC?
Zijin couldn't possibly offer what at this stage would be our requirements as they have backed themselves so strongly into their little corner with Comineire and Dathomir.

Looking forward to hearing from Franck hopefully around 6th on what's been happening in the courtroom. Will the ICC revelations be a catalyst for the DRC to finally take action? Or will they ignore again like the IGF? How much evidence is enough?

Should be a good few weeks.

If we win our cases at the ICC then the MoM's reasoning in the new decrees will be laughed out of the ICSID especially given the IGF report and the fact that conflicts between shareholders is unknown as a reason for cancellation of a PE in the DRC mining code. Let them eat pineapples just won't cut it anymore imo. Given the need and urgency.