AVZ Discussion 2022

[BEISHA]

Theres a few Aussie pieces of shit that wish ill of us and AVZ as well, lets not forget them!

Absolutely Doc, but they are just the by product of this whole sordid affair, its the criminal master minds who stood on the side lines and watched AVZ bod and LTHSH finance , explore and define a magnificent resource that has no peer, then took a opportunity thru covid to plot our demise........attempting and succeeding to convince the President / Cami that AVZ was derelict in its duties and not worthy to produce, even tho we achieved 3 favourable opinion via fact.

Should never had got to that stage if FT was following the progress of Manono and the document trail in the first place, then following that, ignoring the IGF report that Jules Alingete produced, highlighting the corruption, hanging AVZ out to dry....shameful !!

Had the IGF report been respected, Manono would be close to completing construction, with production " imminent " and with that royalties / taxes to improve DRC locals impoverished lifestyles...." imminent ".........yet here we are, still 2 years away minimum.

Zijin / Dathomir / Kibeya / the evil green lady / Mupande / FT.............they are the evil and architect of this disgraceful mess.

imo

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

I gotta feeling your nuts are safe too.......

Next week could be revealing......

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We’re getting to see Jag’s nuts? Not sure how I feel about that…

 

[Hudnut]

Absolutely Doc, but they are just the by product of this whole sordid affair, its the criminal master minds who stood on the side lines and watched AVZ bod and LTHSH finance , explore and define a magnificent resource that has no peer, then took a opportunity thru covid to plot our demise........attempting and succeeding to convince the President / Cami that AVZ was derelict in its duties and not worthy to produce, even tho we achieved 3 favourable opinion via fact.

Should never had got to that stage if FT was following the progress of Manono and the document trail in the first place, then following that, ignoring the IGF report that Jules Alingete produced, highlighting the corruption, hanging AVZ out to dry....shameful !!

Had the IGF report been respected, Manono would be close to completing construction, with production " imminent " and with that royalties / taxes to improve DRC locals impoverished lifestyles...." imminent ".........yet here we are, still 2 years away minimum.

Zijin / Dathomir / Kibeya / the evil green lady / Mupande / FT.............they are the evil and architect of this disgraceful mess.

imo

I don't think FT is ignoring JA's IGF report. I think he's paying close attention as he manoevers around the political landscape.

 

[Doc]

Absolutely Doc, but they are just the by product of this whole sordid affair, its the criminal master minds who stood on the side lines and watched AVZ bod and LTHSH finance , explore and define a magnificent resource that has no peer, then took a opportunity thru covid to plot our demise........attempting and succeeding to convince the President / Cami that AVZ was derelict in its duties and not worthy to produce, even tho we achieved 3 favourable opinion via fact.

Should never had got to that stage if FT was following the progress of Manono and the document trail in the first place, then following that, ignoring the IGF report that Jules Alingete produced, highlighting the corruption, hanging AVZ out to dry....shameful !!

Had the IGF report been respected, Manono would be close to completing construction, with production " imminent " and with that royalties / taxes to improve DRC locals impoverished lifestyles...." imminent ".........yet here we are, still 2 years away minimum.

Zijin / Dathomir / Kibeya / the evil green lady / Mupande / FT.............they are the evil and architect of this disgraceful mess.

imo

Can’t argue with any of that. In the tradition of Frank…

 

[BEISHA]

I don't think FT is ignoring JA's IGF report. I think he's paying close attention as he manoevers around the political landscape.

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Yeah, ultimately that maybe the case, but fark me, 16 months ?

He has allowed the termites to eat in the inner sanctum to the point of ridicule and condemnation on a global scale, massive damage has been done on multiple levels.

If i was President of the DRC and was following the mandate of quelling corruption, I would have cajoled all the corrupt fuckers regards to Manono in a meeting room and called the riot act on them, threatening to allow Jules Alingete to put the ruler over their existing business / past business dealings, prosecute where necessary, make the fucks squirm for their existence if they dont pull their heads in.

I would of gone to China and told Xi that if he didnt instruct his cohorts to back off with stealing mining projects, ripping off DRC with bogus economic data linked with royalties / taxes, then China would be blocked from future mining investment and opportunities would be passed over to the west , reminding the shit head that China needs DRC, more than DRC needs China .

Yeah, Xi might get pissed and demand B & R initiatives to be repaid ASAP, but i am sure the west could cover the bill to garner a more equal share of the critical minerals the world requires, without China ruling the narrative, small price to pay i reckon...

That would be the action of a strong leader who has his country best interests at heart......but alas.

imo

 

[BEISHA]

Can’t argue with any of that. In the tradition of Frank…

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Thanks mate, my opinions are based on all the wonderful sleuth work @Frank provides, plus @MoneyBags1348 , plus @Carlos Danger , @Sammael , @Bin59 , @Chilla and many others......

Hoping a resolution is around the corner , cause this great , respectful, intelligent, long suffering bunch of folks here at AVZ TSE thoroughly deserve it !

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Am I missing something here? When did Dathcom acquire these permits?? POG???

 

[Azzler]

View attachment 44758 Am I missing something here? When did Dathcom acquire these permits?? POG???

Not sure what thats all about.
Not listed under Dathcom in the portal, and they're all over the shop. 2 of which cant be found.
Bit of a random post from Kiki.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

View attachment 44758 Am I missing something here? When did Dathcom acquire these permits?? POG???

Looks like old stuff that I wasn't in the know about, but was previously held by DATHCOM and sold to these other companies like Hong Kong Mining SARL and Yisen.
Dont know why Kiki is bringing them up now......
Unless..... deal done with those companies and AVZ/Dathcom lost out on some of the pie for PR13359 (more going to the state) and DATHCOM received slices of the other permits..... GLTAH DYOR

 

[Hudnut]

Yeah, ultimately that maybe the case, but fark me, 16 months ?

He has allowed the termites to eat in the inner sanctum to the point of ridicule and condemnation on a global scale, massive damage has been done on multiple levels.

If i was President of the DRC and was following the mandate of quelling corruption
.........


That would be the action of a strong leader who has his country best interests at heart......but alas.

That is my point. I suspect Felix is another in a long line.
Looking out for number one.

I don't see him starving or suffering financially.
And we've already established shame and embarrassment aren't emotions felt by those at the top in the DRC, as long as they get their snacks.

IMO, Felix will do the bare minimum to appear to be dealing with graft to get re-elected while minimising fallout and upsetting the apple cart.
Actioning the IGF report makes too much mess and collateral damage.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Not sure what thats all about.
Not listed under Dathcom in the portal, and they're all over the shop. 2 of which cant be found.
Bit of a random post from Kiki.

They're the bunch of tenements that Dathcom use to own, then were sold for some reason. Can be found in 2018 Annual report, then disappear in 2019 report, theres probably some announcement between them, idk.

 

[Bin59]

Will Cominiere be next???

“Violation Of The Mining Code In The DRC: LICOCO Calls For The Withdrawal Of Mining Titles From Offending Companies!” - Fatshimetrie

LICOCO requests the withdrawal of mining titles from certain mining companies in the DRC due to their non-compliance with the obligations stipulated in the Mining Code. These companies failed to negotiate with local communities, sign social responsibility specifications and carry out the...

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“Violation of the Mining Code in the DRC: LICOCO calls for the withdrawal of mining titles from offending companies!”​

17 September 2023

fatshimetrie

Title: LICOCO requests the withdrawal of mining titles due to non-compliance with the Mining Code by mining companies

Introduction :

The Congolese Anti-Corruption League (LICOCO) recently denounced the non-compliance with the provisions of the Mining Code by certain mining companies in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). These companies, including Stone Mining Compagny Sarl, CDMC Sarl, AMUR Sarl and DF SA Mining Congo, entered into agreements with the mining company SAKIMA, but did not respect the obligations stipulated in these contracts. Consequently, LICOCO requests the pure and simple withdrawal of the mining titles granted to these companies.

Failure to comply with the obligations of the Mining Code:

According to LICOCO, these four mining companies failed to respect several obligations set out in the Mining Code and the mining regulations of the DRC. Among other things, they did not enter into negotiations with local communities, did not sign the social responsibility specifications, and did not carry out the necessary technical and financial feasibility studies. In addition, the operating areas that had been transferred to them by SAKIMA are inactive or occupied by artisanal mining operators, thus having serious consequences for the sustainable development of the region.

LICOCO’s recommendations:

Faced with this situation, LICOCO supports the government’s initiative to withdraw the mining titles allocated to these four companies. However, it recommends that this decision be taken through a commission set up by the Ministry of Mines, in order to evaluate the contracts of each company and officially inform them of the withdrawal of their mining titles. In addition, LICOCO encourages the government to grant these mining titles to other companies that demonstrate the technical and financial capacity necessary to develop industrial mines, thus contributing to the sustainable development of the Kivu region.

The call to civil society:

LICOCO also calls on civil society organizations to support this government initiative to request the revocation of the mining titles of companies that have not respected their environmental and social obligations, in accordance with the provisions of the Mining Code.

Conclusion :

The request for withdrawal of mining titles made by LICOCO highlights the non-compliance with the obligations of the Mining Code by certain mining companies in the DRC. This situation highlights the importance of ensuring compliance with mining regulations, in order to preserve the interests of local communities and promote sustainable development in the Congolese mining sector. It is therefore crucial that the government takes measures to rectify this situation and ensure that the country’s mineral resources are exploited responsibly and equitably.

 

[Bin59]

The IGF report found Cominiere in violation of the Mining Code with respect to Transfer of mining licences (amongst other things) as opposed to environmental and social breaches mentioned in the article above, so hopefully Licoco addressed these when reviewing Cominiere.

 

[Xerof]

They're the bunch of tenements that Dathcom use to own, then were sold for some reason. Can be found in 2018 Annual report, then disappear in 2019 report, theres probably some announcement between them, idk.

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I looked at this early last year, being the suspicious prick I am. Nobody could assist with any follow-up detail, so it just died on the vine

Names showing on CAMI as tenement holders now are HK Excellen Mining Congo SARL, COMINIERE and HK Yisen, and 2 have gone entirely

The HK names are chinese and Excellen is in JV with GECAMINES, say no more

I suspect these 'disappeared' off our tenement list due to Cong flicking them on, perhaps in cohorts with Jerkfuck from under our nose, but I don't know, and I also don't know if DATHCOM received any money for them. There is no cause for AVZ to receive payment, so nothing in the accounts to assist with a trail. BUT at the very least, I would have thought a note to the accounts explaining the movement might have been helpful

perhaps Kiki wants answers now too, as it smells a little off

 

[TheCount]

I’ve got 700,000 reasons to see AVZ succeed.

If anyone from MMGA wants to convince me why they need a board seat and/or could do a better job, feel free to call me.
(02) 9867 5309.
TC.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

I looked at this early last year, being the suspicious prick I am. Nobody could assist with any follow-up detail, so it just died on the vine

Names showing on CAMI as tenement holders now are HK Excellen Mining Congo SARL, COMINIERE and HK Yisen, and 2 have gone entirely

The HK names are chinese and Excellen is in JV with GECAMINES, say no more

I suspect these 'disappeared' off our tenement list due to Cong flicking them on, perhaps in cohorts with Jerkfuck from under our nose, but I don't know, and I also don't know if DATHCOM received any money for them. There is no cause for AVZ to receive payment, so nothing in the accounts to assist with a trail. BUT at the very least, I would have thought a note to the accounts explaining the movement might have been helpful

perhaps Kiki wants answers now too, as it smells a little off

Maybe this is a question to ask at the AGM

 

[Carlos Danger]

They're the bunch of tenements that Dathcom use to own, then were sold for some reason. Can be found in 2018 Annual report, then disappear in 2019 report, theres probably some announcement between them, idk.

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I looked at this early last year, being the suspicious prick I am. Nobody could assist with any follow-up detail, so it just died on the vine

Names showing on CAMI as tenement holders now are HK Excellen Mining Congo SARL, COMINIERE and HK Yisen, and 2 have gone entirely

The HK names are chinese and Excellen is in JV with GECAMINES, say no more

I suspect these 'disappeared' off our tenement list due to Cong flicking them on, perhaps in cohorts with Jerkfuck from under our nose, but I don't know, and I also don't know if DATHCOM received any money for them. There is no cause for AVZ to receive payment, so nothing in the accounts to assist with a trail. BUT at the very least, I would have thought a note to the accounts explaining the movement might have been helpful

perhaps Kiki wants answers now too, as it smells a little off

From the IGF report:

 

[Xerof]

From the IGF report:
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Aha, sitting right in front of me. Maybe wasn't focussed on those tenements at the time. So, basically suspicions are correct - Cominiere and Cong have sold family jewels? Shame that Jules can't name the parties directly involved

 

[Winenut]

Aha, sitting right in front of me. Maybe wasn't focussed on those tenements at the time. So, basically suspicions are correct - Cominiere and Cong have sold family jewels? Shame that Jules can't name the parties directly involved

Does it ever fucking end?...

 

[John25]

Does it ever fucking end?...