AVZ Discussion 2022

Rambo

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I had a feeling those idiots would show up and try to spread some lies. Doesn’t look like anyone is impressed.

 
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Dazmac66

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I had a feeling those idiots would show up and try to spread some lies. Doesn’t look like anyone is impressed.


Say that again - you sold 15% for how much?
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Goat

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How the fork is Celestin still a staff member? Surely he’s not that arrogant to hold his ground. Unless he has a huge pair of balls or has an Ace card to play right before confession??? Hmmm
 
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Scoota30

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I had a feeling those idiots would show up and try to spread some lies. Doesn’t look like anyone is impressed.


Very important that we got in to explain our side of the story first.
Equally important is the body language and smiles that came with AVZs visit compared to what is shown here with Comineire. One would imagine the IGF report got mentioned during both meetings.

Clearly the first item on the CAMI's agenda is to resolve the dathcom file 😉😉😉🍍🍍
 
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It's a bit shit that CAMIs twitter posted their meeting with Comminier but didn't post their meeting with AVZ on their twitter (had to get the news from Mines.CD)
 
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I wonder if they are connected to the DRC’s Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Energy for the Mpiana-Mwanga hydro-electric power station refurbishment ......


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On August 17, 2023, the Director of the Mining Cadastre, Mr. Paul MABOLIA YENGA, had the honor of welcoming the delegation of the National Agency for Electrification and Energy Services in rural and peri-urban areas, ANSER in acronym. Led by its Managing Director, Mr. Idesbald CHINAMULA, the delegation was also made up of the Technical Director as well as the expert head of the service in charge of partnerships. The exchanges at the heart of this meeting focused on a promising collaboration between the two state institutions. The central issue of these discussions was the possibility of formalizing a solid memorandum of understanding, uniting the forces of the Mining Cadastre and ANSER to actively contribute to post-mining efforts and technical support for mining companies in electrification of communities. The current situation of the Congolese mining sector was highlighted by the Director General of CAMI, highlighting the energy deficit hampering the expansion of the sector. This is where the partnership between CAMI and ANSER comes into play. As a gateway to the mining sector, the CAMI will serve as an essential bridge towards the electrification of rural communities impacted by mining projects. Thanks to the operational expertise of ANSER, as the operational arm of the Congolese State in terms of rural and peri-urban electrification, this collaboration promises to bring a pragmatic approach to the issue of the electrification of local communities, within the framework of the specifications imposed on operating mining companies. "Electricity is the fuel of the mining industry and the catalyst for grassroots development, and with the expertise of ANSER, it is possible to envisage a fruitful partnership for the benefit of our rural and peri-urban populations" underlined DG CAMI. This initiative is part of the ongoing commitment to sustainable development and economic growth carried out by the two institutions. #CadastreMinier #CAMI #RDC #MinesRDC
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Samus

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We are very satisfied with this Kiki development and expect much improved relations with Congolese officials to finally advance this project to its realization

The current team is already acquired in corruption and the mafia... They are not going to bring any change in this sector
 
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Bin59

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Kiki mentions needing sanctions for corruption in minerals trafficking - an article in the Africa Report on 4 July shows that a bill for sanctions against corruption in minerals trafficking has been introduced:


From the article:

Pressure’s on

Meanwhile, Congress and the Joe Biden administration have been putting pressure on DRC mining operators to change their ways.

For several years, the US government has pushed the government of President Felix Tshisekedi to revise deals with Chinese companies signed under his predecessor. And during December’s US-Africa Leaders Summit in Washington, the US signed a memorandum of understanding with the DRC and Zambia to encourage the two countries to jointly develop a supply chain for electric vehicle batteries.

US lawmakers are also getting in on the act.

Speaking at a 22 June hearing on the pending Africa budget requests from the State Department and the US Agency for International Development (USAID), House Foreign Affairs Africa panel chairman John James announced that he was working on legislation pertaining to minerals in the DRC. The Michigan Republican added that he would soon be leading a congressional delegation to the DRC, Tanzania and Nigeria.

“I’m currently working on legislation relating to the DRC critical minerals sector,” James said, “specifically in creating a strategy to balance our national security responsibilityto ensure continued access to key mineral commodities such as cobalt and lithium, with the appalling working conditions present in the DRC mining sector, and extremely opaque business and climate that exists throughout the country.”

A week later, Congressman Smith introduced his “Countering China’s Exploitation of Strategic Metals and Minerals and Child and Forced Labour in the Democratic Republic of the Congo Act.” Smith’s office said the congressman had been working on his bill since last year and held a hearing on the topic in the previous Congress.

While the bill raises concerns with China’s reported control of 15 of the DRC’s 19 large cobalt mines, much of the attention is on child and forced labour in the country’s thousands of unregulated small and small-scale mines. Here too, China is accused of having played a nefarious role in recent years by either importing or having Chinese firms process the bulk of artisanal production inside the DRC, according to a 20 June study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

To counter such abuses, Smith’s bill calls for sanctions – including asset blocks and visa restrictions – on foreign persons found to have facilitated child labour or forced labour in the DRC mining industry, “including any official of the government of the DRC.”

Also of interest is that a US Congress delegation will be in Kinshasa early next week

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Charbella

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I wonder if they are connected to the DRC’s Ministry of Hydraulic Resources and Energy for the Mpiana-Mwanga hydro-electric power station refurbishment ......


@MinMinesRDC
Translated from French by
On August 17, 2023, the Director of the Mining Cadastre, Mr. Paul MABOLIA YENGA, had the honor of welcoming the delegation of the National Agency for Electrification and Energy Services in rural and peri-urban areas, ANSER in acronym. Led by its Managing Director, Mr. Idesbald CHINAMULA, the delegation was also made up of the Technical Director as well as the expert head of the service in charge of partnerships. The exchanges at the heart of this meeting focused on a promising collaboration between the two state institutions. The central issue of these discussions was the possibility of formalizing a solid memorandum of understanding, uniting the forces of the Mining Cadastre and ANSER to actively contribute to post-mining efforts and technical support for mining companies in electrification of communities. The current situation of the Congolese mining sector was highlighted by the Director General of CAMI, highlighting the energy deficit hampering the expansion of the sector. This is where the partnership between CAMI and ANSER comes into play. As a gateway to the mining sector, the CAMI will serve as an essential bridge towards the electrification of rural communities impacted by mining projects. Thanks to the operational expertise of ANSER, as the operational arm of the Congolese State in terms of rural and peri-urban electrification, this collaboration promises to bring a pragmatic approach to the issue of the electrification of local communities, within the framework of the specifications imposed on operating mining companies. "Electricity is the fuel of the mining industry and the catalyst for grassroots development, and with the expertise of ANSER, it is possible to envisage a fruitful partnership for the benefit of our rural and peri-urban populations" underlined DG CAMI. This initiative is part of the ongoing commitment to sustainable development and economic growth carried out by the two institutions. #CadastreMinier #CAMI #RDC #MinesRDC
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The outcome of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power station refurbishment has been on my mind for some time now. Zijin has already started working on the site.
 
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Samus

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The outcome of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power station refurbishment has been on my mind for some time now. Zijin has already started working on the site.
Has this been confirmed somewhere other than from the 'Cominière SA' twitter account?
 
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The outcome of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power station refurbishment has been on my mind for some time now. Zijin has already started working on the site.
Can you link some evidence?
 
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The outcome of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power station refurbishment has been on my mind for some time now. Zijin has already started working on the site.
Yeah wot mate?
 
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The outcome of the Mpiana-Mwanga hydroelectric power station refurbishment has been on my mind for some time now. Zijin has already started working on the site.
That’s quite concerning.

Paying x times the going rate to power our operation as an act of revenge by #FuckZijin sounds about right, damnit.
 
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Charbella

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Can you link some evidence?
Last year I came across a job ad for the power station by Jin Cheng/Zijin. Hence I assume that work is being done on the site.
 
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Azzler

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Last year I came across a job ad for the power station by Jin Cheng/Zijin. Hence I assume that work is being done on the site.
They are cunts though, and do shit things like that.

Do you remeber that article on the ground in Manono where they tell the story of Zijin coming into the mine site with a fucking excavator!
Just trying to bully their way in!
They arrested the driver and he was released the next day.

It would be good to get clarity on what exactly is going on with that Hydro plant, Com and MoP were shit talking saying it wasn't ours to play with, but people were saying that wasn't true and we had an arrangement already.
I don't think anything was every clarified.
 
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Dijon101

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"Hence I assume"..... all from a job add? but nothing else?

I'd assume "yeah nah"

Just from the article Sammael posted
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  • To respect the Memorandum of Understanding signed between the Government of the Republic and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power stations of Mpiana-Mwanga, and of which a representative was to sit in the Technical Monitoring Committee of the said project;"

We know AVZ has a MOA with the Government for Mpiana-Mwanga...
I'd assume from the balance of evidence that its AVZ not Zijin that are doing the work to rehabilitate the power station.

Anyway,
I'm more concerned about if we are mining LITHIUM not who's working on a power station.
 
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