AVZ Discussion 2022

[Remark]

Let's forget about our shared shitshow for the night, happy hangover people

 

[CashKing]

Let's forget about our shared shitshow for the night, happy hangover people

Couple of VB’s should sort that out mate

 

[Dazmac66]

Let's forget about our shared shitshow for the night, happy hangover people

Job done!

 

[Samus]

Time to crack out the Diplimatico then
Cheers!

 

[Frank]

Embezzlement of public funds is the basis of lack of Infrastructure

The whole of humanity celebrates every June 13 of the year, the international day for the protection of whistleblowers.

On the sidelines of this day, the Congolese League for the Fight against Corruption, (LICOCO) and the Observation of Public Expenditure, (Odep) co-organized the morning of exchange, this Friday, June 23, 2023 in the amphitheater of the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) located in the commune of the commune of Gombe, for the sharing of information.

During this morning of discussion, the General Inspectorate of Finance explained all the contours of corruption in the DRC and the work done by whistleblowers in the fight against corrupt practices.

For the Head of the IGF, Jules ALINGETE NKEY, since independence, the DRC has gone from fifteen million inhabitants to 100 million inhabitants with the same infrastructure without job creation.

“It follows today that we have serious problems in the big cities, we have serious problems at the level of society, problems created by unemployment, by bad management of finances and if we do not manage very well these problems we risk having anti-values almost at the entire level of the country,” he said.

And to add that it will be necessary to militate and privilege first the collective well-being than individual because the collective well-being will reduce corruption.

The Congolese must make the general disapproval of the embezzlers of taxpayers' money so that these financial criminals who mortgage the future of our children cannot express themselves.

Despite the struggle of whistleblowers, the DRC does not have a legal framework to protect whistleblowers.

The Democratic Republic of Congo is full of enormous resources, does not advance because of the diversion of the last public.

And whistleblowers must not expose themselves to the predator in public finance but must do so discreetly in order to avoid threats.

"The impression I sometimes have, we are all in a culture where there is no red line and the crimes of embezzlement are trivialized and we swim in this culture and even the desire to denounce it we have it not”, testified Florimond Muteba PCA of Odep.

Corruption is a scourge that must be fought.

And there is a direct correlation between development and corruption, the statistics of the world prove them that the most developed countries are countries where corruption is fought and countries where corruption is high, the degree of misery is also too high.

www.tsieleka.com/2023/06/24/rdc-le-detournement-des-deniers-publics-est-a-la-base-de-manque-dinfrastructures-jules-alingete/

 

[MoneyBags1348]

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* Hmm, about 910 Corrupt Kunts too many tbo

This photo was taken shortly after that one Frank…. when they got out of their suits

 

[SilentOne]

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* Hmm, about 910 Corrupt Kunts too many tbo

Well it would be another round of Brown Paper Bags if FT doesnt get back in - can Sin Bin afford it? No Mine no Battery Hub in the DRC.

Regards - Silent
Just a thought bubble

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Here’s another thought….
@Flight996 posted this on the Zijin thread recently

“What's the bet that Zijin miraculously finds and presents a 'genuine' signed ministerial document approving Zijin's place on the Dathcom register.”

“The rodents have produced so many fake documents in the past, what's the harm in just one more.”

We have seen fake documents appear recently thanks to @9cardomaha and we know about Zijin’s corruption and how they illegally and fraudulently attempted to embezzle shares in Dathcom through extortion

Remember these legal terms (they all apply to Zijin) and keep an eye out for any newly discovered fake documents…. Could be how or why these sly fuckers have delayed the ICC arbitration case again

The sleuthing done by shareholders on TSE and in private has been one of our strongest assets

 

[wombat74]

Here’s another thought….
@Flight996 posted this on the Zijin thread recently

“What's the bet that Zijin miraculously finds and presents a 'genuine' signed ministerial document approving Zijin's place on the Dathcom register.”

“The rodents have produced so many fake documents in the past, what's the harm in just one more.”

We have seen fake documents appear recently thanks to @9cardomaha and we know about Zijin’s corruption and how they illegally and fraudulently attempted to embezzle shares in Dathcom through extortion

Remember these legal terms (they all apply to Zijin) and keep an eye out for any newly discovered fake documents…. Could be how or why these sly fuckers have delayed the ICC arbitration case again

The sleuthing done by shareholders on TSE and in private has been one of our strongest assets

They would have done it already if they were going to and it doesn't change AVZ's first right of refusal . The facts around Zijin's claim for 15% are already well known . What's going on here is pure stalling tactics to weaken AVZ's resolve . Felix /MoM are going to have to make a captains call at some point . Lets be clear . It's not just about the 15% . China want control . They want the ML . I can only see this going 1 of 2 ways . They either pay us out or they kick us out . imo

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

They would have done it already if they were going to and it doesn't change AVZ's first right of refusal . The facts around Zijin's claim for 15% are already well known . What's going on here is pure stalling tactics to weaken AVZ's resolve . Felix /MoM are going to have to make a captains call at some point . Lets be clear . It's not just about the 15% . China want control . They want the ML . I can only see this going 1 of 2 ways . They either pay us out or they kick us out . imo

Respectfully:
1. “Kick us out” = unlikely. ICSID case risks immed pariah status for international investment & risks supports from World Bank …etc. & there’s a big damages pay out to AVZ eventually.
2. “Pay us out” = DRC Gov can’t afford the $
3. “Negotiated deal” = most likely option IMO. Question is can it be agreed ‘well before’ election to give FT clear air on Manono, ie agreed soon. Or will negotiations falter & it gets bumped to after election ???
IMO GLTAH BR Sparrowhawk12

 

[wombat74]

Respectfully:
1. “Kick us out” = unlikely. ICSID case risks immed pariah status for international investment & risks supports from World Bank …etc. & there’s a big damages pay out to AVZ eventually.
2. “Pay us out” = DRC Gov can’t afford the $
3. “Negotiated deal” = most likely option IMO. Question is can it be agreed ‘well before’ election to give FT clear air on Manono, ie agreed soon. Or will negotiations falter & it gets bumped to after election ???
IMO GLTAH BR Sparrowhawk12

Pay out / Buy out by Zijin not DRC .

 

[Samus]

Pay out / Buy out by Zijin not DRC .

Fuck Zijin!
If it's a pay out / buy out let it be CATL or similar.
Be nice to see AVZ continue to drag Zijin through the courts along with their accomplices and have the ass sued off them for damages equal to losses incurred as a result of their interference on the Manono project.
2-3$ takeover + Zijin $12.
Edit: USD

 

[BEISHA]

Really Germany , you finnalllllllly came to that conclusion did you ?

What are you going to do about it ?

 

[BEISHA]

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Yep, looks like you have ZIJINS details fairly well covered.....

CORRUPT x4
DISHONEST x4
THIEVES x4

Any chance of getting the background scenes looking alot less like err....

The PERTH SCORCHERS ??

lol

 

[Samus]

I know we're all completely over the talk without action but you've got to admit it still sounds poetic.


#RDC Standing Congolese and Congolese. United in the fight against the anti-values that hinder the development of our dear and beautiful country. The recovery of the DRC and its greatness depend on the commitment of all of us to block the way to the gravediggers of the Economy.

 

[Frank]

 

[cruiser51]

This is related to the report where the MoM tweeted on her twitter account that she was so surprised about.

After reading this article, I wonder who is in charge at the Ministry of Mines.

"Sources within the Presidency and Primera Gold DRC in turn told the panel that the Ministry of Mines feared losing financial gains from gold smuggling, hence its opposition", explained the report of the UN experts.

Wow that is some strange language.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

All seems to have gone very quiet this week - wonder what's going on in the background?

 

[Dijon101]

Delays and lawyers collecting their fee's

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Felix has started campaigning (terribly I must add) which leads me to believe he will be keen on a resolution as Moise or any competitor will be able to use this blatant corruption as ammo - just my thoughts and hopes