AVZ Discussion 2022

9cardomaha

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My view on Dathomir still being there aligns with the ICC case AVZ brought against Simon CUNT and Dathomir.

Our case against them is to get ICC to enforce the sale because they have sellers remorse.
 
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Feeling pretty sweet about this document and Klaus that slimey MF getting involved near us. Though he is a dog and this document is unproven the combined timing of the two leads me to feel much more positive about our outcome and maybe it’s the half gram blunt I just nailed but I feel a relaxed love and respect towards those here who have contributed to all of our evolving mental health through this pandemic of a cluster fuck. Really has made a huge difference having you magnificent c***s to vent with.
 
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Samus

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My view on Dathomir still being there aligns with the ICC case AVZ brought against Simon CUNT and Dathomir.

Our case against them is to get ICC to enforce the sale because they have sellers remorse.
Problem is, what should be an open-shut case takes so fucking long.
Still no word about the mmcs case even.

Simon CUNT, indeed! :LOL:
 
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My view on Dathomir still being there aligns with the ICC case AVZ brought against Simon CUNT and Dathomir.

Our case against them is to get ICC to enforce the sale because they have sellers remorse.
Correct. The only way AVZ can get around needing the ICC for the Dathomir 15% to be transferred to them is if the DRC government intervenes, someone gives Cong more money or Cong decides to comply with the contracts he signed (and intended to be bound by) to avoid being made liable for damages. One of those scenarios is far more likely than the ICC cases brought by AVZ against Dathomir running the full course imo

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Can we at least have the ML so we can get on with it and sort out the Dathomir shit later ?

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ptlas

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Can't help but think and look back on some of Nigel's interviews over the years outlining how efficient the govt was and how good relations were even mentioning MoP directly. Nigel is in a world of shit if he cannot pull a positive outcome for shareholders. Also, both him and Greame would be wealthy in their own right but imagine if they lost the lot at the end of their careers + reputational damage - c'mon boys lets get something going
Many have justifiably criticised him here.
Me included.

However, given the widely acknowledged shit show that DRC is, I think your criticism is rather unfair.

He had, and is, navigating a maelstrom of long established institutional and corporate corruption that penetrates every area of DRC governance.
It is, in this case, facilitated and encouraged by actors from, and controlled by, an autocratic state.

These people are experts who have honed their skills over decades and have essentially limitless funding.

Win or lose, whatever that may mean, the fact that we are still in the game at this stage is testament to the fact that these guys are cutting the proverbial.

PS love the silence
 
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j.l

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Can we at least have the ML so we can get on with it and sort out the Dathomir shit later ?

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Agree with the sentiment, but in my limited understanding, clarity of the Dathcom ownership structure is a consideration in the ML award process. I believe AVZ referenced as much in their 'cease and desist' letter to Cominiere.
 
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Agree with the sentiment, but in my limited understanding, clarity of the Dathcom ownership structure is a consideration in the ML award process. I believe AVZ referenced as much in their 'cease and desist' letter to Cominiere.
AVZ's letter is dated 4/8/21 and in part 2.1.6. they say 'CAMI is examining the structure of the shareholding at this time'. This was during the technical opinion process. CAMI approved Dathcom's application on 17/9/21.

Management have repeatedly said that ownership isn't an issue with getting the licence. Technically they are correct but the haters have used the lack of certainty of funding caused by these ownership dramas to delay the project imo

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AVZ's letter is dated 4/8/21 and in part 2.1.6. they say 'CAMI is examining the structure of the shareholding at this time'. This was during the technical opinion process. CAMI approved Dathcom's application on 17/9/21.

Management have repeatedly said that ownership isn't an issue with getting the licence. Technically they are correct but the haters have used the lack of certainty of funding caused by these ownership dramas to delay the project imo

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To get the ML decree if I remember correctly there were 3 criteria to be ticked off, one being proof/certainty of funding. We got the the decree, yet the detractors bullshit about the company not having funds…
 
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j.l

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AVZ's letter is dated 4/8/21 and in part 2.1.6. they say 'CAMI is examining the structure of the shareholding at this time'. This was during the technical opinion process. CAMI approved Dathcom's application on 17/9/21.

Management have repeatedly said that ownership isn't an issue with getting the licence. Technically they are correct but the haters have used the lack of certainty of funding caused by these ownership dramas to delay the project imo

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Thanks @Carlos Danger , always on the mark!
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Feeling pretty sweet about this document and Klaus that slimey MF getting involved near us. Though he is a dog and this document is unproven the combined timing of the two leads me to feel much more positive about our outcome and maybe it’s the half gram blunt I just nailed but I feel a relaxed love and respect towards those here who have contributed to all of our evolving mental health through this pandemic of a cluster fuck. Really has made a huge difference having you magnificent c***s to vent with.
Where you buy your blunt papers from man? Prefer a spliff myself
 
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AVZ's letter is dated 4/8/21 and in part 2.1.6. they say 'CAMI is examining the structure of the shareholding at this time'. This was during the technical opinion process. CAMI approved Dathcom's application on 17/9/21.

Management have repeatedly said that ownership isn't an issue with getting the licence. Technically they are correct but the haters have used the lack of certainty of funding caused by these ownership dramas to delay the project imo

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If some of the punters haven't realised it yet then maybe they need to start waking up . The Chinese and their puppets are using stall tactics until AVZ runs out of juice . Shi1t we are already 13 months down . Wake up !!!!! If this isn't sorted very soon then AVZ BoD need a very firm tap on the Shoulder .
 
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If some of the punters haven't realised it yet then maybe they need to start waking up . The Chinese and their puppets are using stall tactics until AVZ runs out of juice . Shi1t we are already 13 months down . Wake up !!!!! If this isn't sorted very soon then AVZ BoD need a very firm tap on the Shoulder .
We have plenty of money. If Zijin really are gone and the ICC case is dropped then legal costs will be dramatically reduced. Even if it isn't we have enough to get through the next 2 years easily.

One thing about the Chinese is that they are full of bravado and tricks until it comes time for court findings to be released publicly. Then they look for a deal to save face. As seen with the WTO case that Australia brought against China for their wuhan lab hissy fit tariffs.
 
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Remark

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Where you buy your blunt papers from man? Prefer a spliff myself
With half a gram in a blunt you're not going to notice the difference - unless you're a Kiwi...
 
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Frank

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Mate, there's ALWAYS something shifty going on. It's the D fucking R fucking C after all.
*Fyi, Speaking of something going on in the Days of our D ...... R ...... C Lives :oops: :eek: :rolleyes:

Democracy and rule of law in danger: Felix Tshisekedi is now in the crosshairs of the West with "the same type of messages once sent to Mobutu and the Kabila", Omer Nsongo

There are signals that do not deceive.

The political climate in DR-Congo has become tense in recent weeks with the restriction of political space.

Repressed Opposition march, disturbed sit-in, detained opponents… the list is not exhaustive. :eek::rolleyes::eek::oops::eek:

Faced with this deleterious atmosphere, a political columnist decided to appeal to President Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi.

In a video posted on his social networks, Omer Nsongo die Lema, the only political columnist to "have lived in his flesh, in his soul and in his spirit the alternation symbolized by the investiture of the new President on January 24, 2019", said recalled the long fight of the Union for Democracy and Social Progress -UDPS- in favor of "democracy, human rights and the rule of law".


Founded in 1982, this party operated underground for 8 years due to the one-party regime in the former Zaire until the proclamation of political pluralism on April 24, 1990.

“For 29 years, this party has been the soul of the Opposition.

The UDPS has symbolized the fight for democracy, human rights and the rule of law”, first contextualized the journalist and political columnist Omer Nsongo.

"There are no better projects for the UDPS than the projects of human rights, democracy and the rule of law", he then underlined.

In his message, Omer Nsongo regretted the recent deviations of the current power which recall the decline of past regimes.

“In 1997, I saw the AFDL arrive.

I have also seen this regime unravel.

In 2001, I saw the arrival of Joseph Kabila, I saw how this regime was made and I also saw how this regime was defeated.

In 2019, I saw Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi arrive, I see how this diet is done.


Allow me not to say how this regime will end, because it is in place.

I saw under Mobutu in 1990 and 1997, under Kabila father and son, how the West reacted with press releases to each demonstration of the repressed Opposition”, alerted the one who ended up discovering the instructions for use of the 'Opposition.

"The West was attacking Mobutu and the Kabila because it believed that the government held the instruments of power: police, army, justice...", he pointed out.

For him, President Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi must quickly rectify the situation, because, being already on the line of sight of the West with "the same type of messages sent in the past to Mobutu and the Kabila".

Omer Nsongo finally urged the Head of State in these terms: “Be careful, there is something wrong.


As soon as you embody these projects, you must assume it.

You should not let yourself be trapped by blasters, you have a duty of accountability to the DR-Congolese people.

If you succeed in this feat, you will come out of it greater”.


On May 20, Moïse Katumbi made almost similar remarks after the use of "tear gas" and "live ammunition" to repress the march of the Opposition, recalling the fight they led together in the Opposition against Kabila to “liberate the people from misery”.

For Katumbi, repression could come from anyone, but not from Tshisekedi.

mediacongo


Food for thought :unsure:

Frank 🤞 🙏 🤞
 
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Frank

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Please don't take this the wrong way, but Put a cork in it buddy!

Cheers,
Nells

Nells, I was thinking perhaps a Cumquat might be preferable, but if the Cork fits well :unsure:

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Kumquats, or Cumquats in Australian English, are a group of small, angiosperm, fruit-bearing trees in the flowering plant family Rutaceae.

Food for thought :unsure:

Corks or Cumquats :eek:

Frank (y)
 
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The Fox

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We have plenty of money. If Zijin really are gone and the ICC case is dropped then legal costs will be dramatically reduced. Even if it isn't we have enough to get through the next 2 years easily.

One thing about the Chinese is that they are full of bravado and tricks until it comes time for court findings to be released publicly. Then they look for a deal to save face. As seen with the WTO case that Australia brought against China for their wuhan lab hissy fit tariffs.

Correct !! Bravado,Tricks and Determination wins the day.

First Chinese companies try to copy it, (well that can't happen here as the asset is in the ground)

Second, they try to steal it. (Good try, don't think that has worked out very well for Zijin and its subsidury)

Third, they will try to buy it $$$.

Look out for a winning bid from China IMO for either a TO or a JV, irrelevant of Chinese sentiment locally or here in Oz, money talks....you know the rest.

Chinese kunts are clever and have the dollars to move almost any mountain.

Maybe there is a wild card with something originating from MENA for a TO or JV, but they better pull their finger out IMO.

Cheers 🦊
 
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CashKing

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We have plenty of money. If Zijin really are gone and the ICC case is dropped then legal costs will be dramatically reduced. Even if it isn't we have enough to get through the next 2 years easily.

One thing about the Chinese is that they are full of bravado and tricks until it comes time for court findings to be released publicly. Then they look for a deal to save face. As seen with the WTO case that Australia brought against China for their wuhan lab hissy fit tariffs.
Dude I can not repeat CAN NOT go through this for another 2 years. BOD need to sort this out ASAP, sure we can go ICC but fuck me 2 more years 😱 Na uh

GLTAH
 
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