AVZ Discussion 2022

[MoneyBags1348]

Hey MB
You're obviously on Zeebots radar.
Might be a good idea to furnish him with the proof before he asks.
He may then turn his attention to the ghost.

I know you're pissed mate, but please don't do a sulk.

He ain't worth it.

Just sayin

IMHO Geist adds nothing, just crystallises what everyone knows, but nobody bothers to explain, about where we're upto.

Then adds negative spin and diverts the conversation onto Numero Uno.

Invariably, a couple of trolls turn up (as some have said) and 'compliment' him.

And that along with today's announcement makes me a little more positive.

BTW threats would indicate emotions which reflect a need for AVZ to lose.
So either he's short or an agent of an AVZ enemy.
Or both.

@ptlas you don’t have to worry, I’m not pissed (and rarely even have a Jack Daniels these days) and I never ever sulk.

If we ever catch up in person you would probably have more fun with me than anyone and monkey’s like the ghost and the other trolls (like JR and PC) don’t bother me in the slightest

The ghost now asking me to provide him with the date and time he forged a post from me right after alluding to remembering the event and how it was just a glitch on his phone

That’s right after he tries to steer me off looking to find if Zigin engaged in insider trading

There are several shareholders on this forum who have kept up to date with who our shareholders are and who bought in and when (including Bellamel) and if zeebots wants the proof it’s only one click away on my phone

Some people seem to think because the ghost is resourceful that makes him intelligent My opinion is he is a usurper who likes to be evasive and elusive, nothing more

Zeebots feel free to PM me anytime for clarification on anything I post

 

[Underwaterdark]

$5.66B USD valuation according to their (presumably) incorrect or overinflated figures.
~$8.5B AUD equivalent.

They are welcome to buy us for that.

Just want to check that I am clear on my understanding:

-We went to ICC regarding the wrongful termination of the Dathcom JV
-We have confirmation from the ICC in support that it was unlawful and terminated without valid grounds.
-Cominiere are prevented from taking action or steps to terminate the JV.
-So they immediately lodge to the ICC to terminate the JV again.
-ICC also said, 'hey, wait for the outcome of the broader Cominiere case'
-Instead, they lodge the ICC as above, wanting damages for a shareholding that was never theirs legally.

So what can AVZ do?
-Agree to the ICC case, which is pending the outcome of the other case?
-Lodge their own ICC case for damages, also in preparation of the other case? (maybe a similar figures, grab $2-$3B)

With the potential that the ICC rules NOT in favour of Jin Cheng for the other case.
Which I assume would result in the new ICC lodged, being immediately thrown out.

 

[cruiser51]

This forum has been reduced by one person with a multitude of identities into hot crapper.
This post highly likely will be moderated, so be it.
Have fun with the all important man.

 

[John Reed]

@ptlas you don’t have to worry, I’m not pissed (and rarely even have a Jack Daniels these days) and I never ever sulk.

If we ever catch up in person you would probably have more fun with me than anyone and monkey’s like the ghost and the other trolls I won’t mention don’t bother me in the slightest

The ghost now asking me to provide him with the date and time he forged a post from me right after alluding to remembering the event and how it was just a glitch on his phone

That’s right after he tries to steer me off looking to find if Zigin engaged in insider trading

There are several shareholders on this forum who have kept up to date with who our shareholders are and who bought in and when (including Bellamel) and if zeebots wants the proof it’s only one click away on my phone

Some people seem to think because the ghost is resourceful that makes him intelligent He is a time waster and usurper who likes to be evasive and elusive, nothing more

Bhags as you suspect if he is Der Les, then, credit where credit is due: he did discover what was right under all our nose hairs: further evidence of fraudulent misconduct by Boatman or source and the Australian Financial Review willing to endorse and publish based on Bostman’s uploaded documents despite the tampering that they as professionals should have detected from their source.

I do not see any usurping. I think you are just holding a grudge. Can you leave it be so we can focus on the important stuff

 

[j.l]

Hang on, didn't AVZ just win this ruling in the ICC - "restraining Cominière from taking any actions with regards to its purported termination of the Dathcom Joint Venture Agreement (Dathcom JVA)." How can the ICC restrain them one week and then engage in this case the following week? My head hurts!

It says something about ICC process when a claim can be made by a claimant who is currently under restraint.

Presumably there's some kind of form to be submitted when initiating an action through the ICC. You'd think a simple check box on the form "Is the claimant currently subject to an ICC restraint?" would easily kill off spurious action like this.

But hey, I'm a simple man...

 

[Carlos Danger]

ICC has become the new twitter

Anyone who says Cominiere SA or Congolese don’t value the International jurisdiction of the ICC Paris for Congo (Kin) will have to explain the current combined action of Cominiere as spurious

That argument was always idiotic considering Zijin initiated the first ICC case to have AVZ recognise them in Dathcom

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I meant pissed off mate, but I suspect you knew that.

Have a background ( at a fairly low level) of analysing people's motives in a number of situation types.
Was very good at it. Good enuff to jack it in cos I didn't like my conclusions.

Anyway, I'll stop there before I become Der Geist; suffice to say I've called him out.

BTW
Like you a lot
Abrasive character, with a history, just like me, that you have shared.
Respect you for that.

Look forward to meeting you.

Abrasive I thought I just stated the obvious!! Nice to have a little chat with genuine people here pt

Now as @cruiser51 suggests, it’s time to get back on topic…. And hopefully shareholder’s here can spot the trolls 🧌

 

[Dijon101]

I literally have no idea how Zijin are claiming any damages??

they buy 15% for $33 million (apparently illegally)
claim $800 odd damages..

for what ? lost income? hardship?

Zijin have literally done NOTHING except come in last minute and collude with corrupt actors.
No core samples, no feasibility studies, nothing.

Amazing return on investment in 12 months for doing absolutely nothing

Only thing I can think of is they are claiming on future lost income as Cominiere and Zijin are loosing both their 10% and 15% respectively.

FUCK THEM!

 

[cruiser51]

Abrasive I thought I just stated the obvious!! Nice to have a little chat with genuine people here pt

Now as @cruiser51 suggests, it’s time to get back on topic…. And hopefully shareholder’s here can spot the trolls 🧌

You don't have to be Einstein to recognise the thin skinned wankers

 

[cruiser51]

I literally have no idea how Zijin are claiming any damages??

they buy 15% for $33 million (apparently illegally)
claim $800 odd damages..

for what ? lost income? hardship?

Zijin have literally done NOTHING except come in last minute and collude with corrupt actors.
No core samples, no feasibility studies, nothing.

Amazing return on investment in 12 months for doing absolutely nothing

Only thing I can think of is they are claiming on future lost income as Cominiere and Zijin are loosing both their 10% and 15% respectively.

FUCK THEM!

Mate I got very recently moderated for less swearing than that, welcome to the new TSE

 

[Azzler]

Bhags as you suspect if he is Der Les, then, credit where credit is due: he did discover what was right under all our nose hairs: further evidence of fraudulent misconduct by Boatman or source and the Australian Financial Review willing to endorse and publish based on Bostman’s uploaded documents despite the tampering that they as professionals should have detected from their source.

I do not see any usurping. I think you are just holding a grudge. Can you leave it be so we can focus on the important stuff

Discoverd?
Or given information directly from Z because AVZ dismissed their claim.
They needed someone on the "inside" to stir concern, to get people worried.
Ahh then they have their so called "informer" in place.

It was also incredibly obvious and common knowledge that boatman and Tommy were acting fraudulently for personal gain.
He uncovered nothing, but it was a good excuse to look like you're on team AVZ. Investigate something on our detractors that in the end ammounts to nothing.

 

[Carlos Danger]

$5.66B USD valuation according to their (presumably) incorrect or overinflated figures.
~$8.5B AUD equivalent.

They are welcome to buy us for that.

$8.5B AUD x AVZ 75% legal ownership of Dathcom = $6.375B AUD

$6.375B AUD ÷ 3.52B AVZ SOI = $1.81 AUD per share

Not too far off my 1.88 prediction haha

 

[Misfits]

$8.5B AUD x AVZ 75% legal ownership of Dathcom = $6.375B AUD

$6.375B AUD ÷ 3.52B AVZ SOI = $1.81 AUD per share

Not too far off my 1.88 prediction haha

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[Thaz]

Thank you zijijn.

You have now valued the Company, while it is in trading halt, at a premium of more than 2x times its last traded share price. And i would imagine that this value is still undercooked/at a discount.

I think for those holding it in an SMSF, this would potentially do nicely in valuing the shares?

 

[Der Geist]

Discoverd?
Or given information directly from Z because AVZ dismissed their claim.
They needed someone on the "inside" to stir concern, to get people worried.
Ahh then they have their so called "informer" in place.

It was also incredibly obvious and common knowledge that boatman and Tommy were acting fraudulently for personal gain.
He uncovered nothing, but it was a good excuse to look like you're on team AVZ. Investigate something on our detractors that in the end ammounts to nothing.

There are ramifications for the AFR

And this retired lawyer doesn’t agree with you.

 

[TheCount]

Thank you zijijn.

You have now valued the Company, while it is in trading halt, at a premium of more than 2x times its last traded share price. And i would imagine that this value is still undercooked/at a discount.

I think for those holding it in an SMSF, this would potentially do nicely in valuing the shares?

Until the raging Communist lefties start taxing unrealised gains!!

Imagine being in suspension - copping an added tax - and being unable to realise any profits..... Labor has to be stopped.

TC.

 

[Azzler]

Lovely morning in Melbourne today, I had much to think about when out on my walk.

Please indulge another post of mine just thinking out loud.

We're collectively being sued for damages, but what damages? It's not mentioned in the announcement.
IF AVZ have been removed as claimed by CKK, then what is there to sue?
Why have AVZ pointed out the fact that the claimed amounts add up to Z and Coms claimed ownership in a valuation of the company at $5.66B?

I can't help but think (ever the optimist) that AVZ have secured Manono and Com and Z are out. But it can not yet be announced, finalizing stages ect...
So Com and Z are sueing for their claimed ownership valuations.

AVZ have to anounce the ICC request, but can't yet announce the win for Manono, so this is what we get.

Why would AVZ mention this specifically...

"it appears on face value that the
amount of the damages claims is based on Jin Cheng holding a 15% interest
and Cominière a 10% interest in Dathcom, thus suggesting that the Claimants
are valuing the entirety of the Manono Project at US$5.66 billion"

To the optimist, this looks like a wink.
Why would they make this particular observation in an official announcement?
To me they're telling us they want to be payed out.... which means we might have won.

Gods I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud. There's missing information about this ICC request announcement.

Am I utterly crazy thinking this?

 

[cruiser51]

There are ramifications for the AFR

And this retired lawyer doesn’t agree with you.

 

[Azzler]

There are ramifications for the AFR

And this retired lawyer doesn’t agree with you.

Oh I agree.
But that won't have any outcome on determining the success or failure of AVZ.
Neither side gives a shit what happens to the AFR.