AVZ Discussion 2022

[cruiser51]

The law fucking cares what on earth are you on about

Did you notice Cominiere (a Government agency), MoP and MoM (this is the DRC government btw) don't give a flying fuk about any law and make things up on the go, as they please?

I thought it is pretty clear by now that the only rule which has applied is :'the one who pays the biggest brown paper bags into specific private accounts, gets the deal'.
It has absofukkindiddlysquat to do with any law.

If the fukkin law would matter, there would be no need to go to the ICC.
So much for your caring law.

 

[cruiser51]

Latest council of ministers meeting

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1jMJgLvRLVkxL

 

[Der Geist]

don't just plop it into the forum with zero fucking context

What context are you looking for???

I gave context on that post and after. Think about it.

If it feels like inadequate context, then ask the question ask the question ask the quesion. But don’t flame, when you can ask.
Wombat74 accepted it as valid -

I think you could apologise for thinking you can be nasty, yes? You also ignored my April 30 2022 RCCM discovery, didn’t you! Yes? Whose fault is that? Context within context, means do not bitch to me about seemingly trying to be enigmatic.

This journo was mentioned earlier:

AVZ Discussion 2022

Ohhhhhh!!!! That makes more sense. Thought it was I was just making some unsubstantiated claim like a lot of other people with "inside" knowledge. Take it as it was meant to be. Nobody actually knows what will actually happen FFS at least add IMO next time, we are starved of information and...

thestockexchange.com.au

So what does it say about knowing what’s going on?

It’s hard

 

[Der Geist]

Frank I appreciate the posts and I for one don’t want them anywhere else.
I can think of better examples of posts that I would apply “fucking useless to interact with”

@Frank so they are not just a stamp collection if you add a link, with tweet I’m sure many here will be appreciative. It also helps track if AFR delete their AVZ tweets

I also think despite the tribalists here, that it makes sense to catalogue your efforts also in it’s own folder so it’s easy to find later. If you haven’t noticed, moneybhags has been trying to classify discrete areas for easy access.

Otherwise it really does look like hotcrapper that doesn’t allow all the cataloguing moneybhags utilises

 

[Nudedomas59]

Big game Winenut


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Butters!!!!!!!

 

[Der Geist]

Did you notice Cominiere (a Government agency), MoP and MoM (this is the DRC government btw) don't give a flying fuk about any law and make things up on the go, as they please?

I thought it is pretty clear by now that the only rule which has applied is :'the one who pays the biggest brown paper bags into specific private accounts, gets the deal'.
It has absofukkindiddlysquat to do with any law.

If the fukkin law would matter, there would be no need to go to the ICC.
So much for your caring law.

You have to hope it matters or your investment is likely fukked. The neutrality of ICC also can provide DRC authorities with an objectivity they could use safely that they otherwise are sadly lacking in the home jurisdiction. I think they might be using ICC jurisdiction seriously because Kibeya emerged in a twitter account after the emergency relief favourable outcome

Going to ICC is covered as it appears in this section of the JVA:

“######
ARTICLE 44. DISPUTES AND CONTROVERSIES
44.1 In the event of disputes and controversies between the shareholders and the Corporation or between the shareholders themselves, concerning or arising out of the affairs of the Corporation, the party concerned undertakes, before instituting any arbitration proceedings, and except in an emergency, to meet with the other party or parties to attempt to reach an amicable settlement. To this end, the delegate of the party concerned shall meet with the other party or parties within fifteen (15) working days of the invitation to such a meeting sent by letter by the most diligent party to the other party or parties concerned. If such a meeting is not held within such period or if the dispute or difference is not settled in writing by all the parties concerned within fifteen (15) working days of the meeting, on the initiative of the most diligent party, the dispute shall be finally settled under the Rules of Arbitration of the International Chamber of Commerce by one or more arbitrators appointed in accordance with such Rules.
44.2 The arbitration shall take place in Paris and the proceedings shall be conducted in French with
simultaneous translation into English. The parties to the arbitration documents in English or French.
The parties to the arbitration may present their
44.3 The arbitral tribunal shall apply Congolese law, however, in the event of a legal vacuum, the arbitral tribunal may refer to
44.3 The arbitral tribunal shall apply Congolese law, but in the event of a legal vacuum the arbitral tribunal may refer to the general principles of international trade law.
44.4 The arbitral award shall be final and binding. The parties undertake to carry out without delay and in good faith the award rendered by the arbitrators in accordance with the provisions of this Article and hereby waive any immunity from jurisdiction or execution in connection with its implementation. An application for enforcement of the award may be made to any court having jurisdiction.##########”

Full PDF is now uploaded in its own thread for easy locating.

 

[Der Geist]

That's a very dramatic way to say a couple of recent interlopers have started sprouting crap and diverted the attention of the forum.

No it is the exact opposite of what he is saying.
He thinks you are all paranoid nut cases

 

[Fletch77]

Butters!!!!!!!

Butters was incredible !!

On another note.. who is the fuckwit that reported my post last night mentioning the footy to another member ???

If we can’t get a bit off topic a bit on weekends when a few of the boys are on the piss that’s just pathetic, and not what this forum should be about.

Zeebot this forum has gone downhill BIG time in the last couple of weeks.. and most people in here know why.

Having a bit of a laugh in the weekend while a few in here relax with a few drinks had been a good feature of this forum.. let’s not let a couple of blow-ins call the shots and piss the locals off.

I think your AI bot needs to be disabled from a certain couple of posters, which are quite likely the same person trying to manipulate the agenda here.

I give this post what .. 10 mins to be reported ??

 

[TLH]

It’s great to see the AVZ army ramping things up on Twitter - I have no doubt we are exposing all the corrupt and evil players. I hope the AVZ team continue to band together and show our force. Even if you don’t like to post on Twitter I encourage everyone to ‘like’ and ‘share’ any influential posts to ensure the truth is exposed on an international level.
I am looking forward to a big smile at the end of this roller coaster ride!

 

[Der Geist]

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[9cardomaha]

What context are you looking for???

I gave context on that post and after. Think about it.

If it feels like inadequate context, then ask the question ask the question ask the quesion. But don’t flame, when you can ask.
Wombat74 accepted it as valid -

I think you could apologise for thinking you can be nasty, yes? You also ignored my April 30 2022 RCCM discovery, didn’t you! Yes? Whose fault is that? Context within context, means do not bitch to me about seemingly trying to be enigmatic.

This journo was mentioned earlier:

AVZ Discussion 2022

Ohhhhhh!!!! That makes more sense. Thought it was I was just making some unsubstantiated claim like a lot of other people with "inside" knowledge. Take it as it was meant to be. Nobody actually knows what will actually happen FFS at least add IMO next time, we are starved of information and...

thestockexchange.com.au

So what does it say about knowing what’s going on?

It’s hard

It was clearly a dummy spit on my part, but as i'm less sleep-deprived here is the context i would like to know - as politely as i can be:

• What mechanisms is the journalist aware of that could force Zijin and Cominiere and Dathomir out? Or are the three of them just willy-nilly deciding to leave?
  • important context that should have been provided in the first place to ensure your intelligence doesn't just become the wellspring for Chinese whispers and false hope.
• On CATL, as my mini-rant points out, what the fuck is 'could stay, could leave and come back'?
  • Clarify if possible, or should we assume that all three states are possible for all involved parties?
  • The above is like a grater jerk where i don't know if i like it, hate it, or will try it later type scenario.
• Who is AVZ renegotiating with to stay? Felix?

TLDR: Anyone walking in off the street could make the comments you provided; you prefaced it with an anonymous 'DRC journalist' and the source even hedges your bet in case they are wrong, but only between reaffirming that they are congolese.

My main gripe is that I don't post content like that, and am calling you out in the hopes that you will be more responsible when sharing intelligence from your source.

 

[BEISHA]

No it is the exact opposite of what he is saying.
He thinks you are all paranoid nut cases

So, we are all " tribalists" and " paranoid nut cases".....

May I suggest you practice what you preach and FOCUS ON THE STOCK John...

Or I might have to moderate you for flaming and baiting and being off topic....

BTW, this is a discussion thread, so @Frank posts are required here for discussion on a daily basis, big difference when it comes to @MoneyBags1348 excellent catalogue of the " who's who" of the DRC / CHYNA corruption scandals which are good references for folks to use on the twitter TRUTH campaign.

Lastly, @Hudnut interpretation was spot on, learn to " read the room " DG if you desire to have " harmony" discussions in the future.

Imo

 

[9cardomaha]

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You also ignored my April 30 2022 RCCM discovery, didn’t you! Yes? Whose fault is that? Context within context, means do not bitch to me about seemingly trying to be enigmatic.

To this point in particular, you can get off your high horse on trying to call me out.

I don't respond to document requests by always posting a 'well received, let me check. herp derp'.

If i find it i'll post it and quote you so you are notified, that's how i usually share the content.

 

[Doc]

Butters was incredible !!

On another note.. who is the fuckwit that reported my post last night mentioning the footy to another member ???

If we can’t get a bit off topic a bit on weekends when a few of the boys are on the piss that’s just pathetic, and not what this forum should be about.

Zeebot this forum has gone downhill BIG time in the last couple of weeks.. and most people in here know why.

Having a bit of a laugh in the weekend while a few in here relax with a few drinks had been a good feature of this forum.. let’s not let a couple of blow-ins call the shots and piss the locals off.

I think you’re AI bot needs to be disabled from a certain couple of posters, which are quite likely the same person trying to manipulate the agenda here.

I give this post what .. 10 mins to be reported ??

I’ll give you 2 guesses…..actually one guess…..actually one guess that can have multiple correct answers…..
Go AVZ ( just to keep it on topic )

 

[Der Geist]

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To this point in particular, you can get off your high horse on trying to call me out.

I don't respond to document requests by always posting a 'well received, let me check. herp derp'.

If i find it i'll post it and quote you so you are notified, that's how i usually share the content.

“2022 “ is what I said
check your calendar and context

 

[Hudnut]

@Frank so they are not just a stamp collection if you add a link, with tweet I’m sure many here will be appreciative. It also helps track if AFR delete their AVZ tweets

I also think despite the tribalists here, that it makes sense to catalogue your efforts also in it’s own folder so it’s easy to find later. If you haven’t noticed, moneybhags has been trying to classify discrete areas for easy access.

Otherwise it really does look like hotcrapper that doesn’t allow all the cataloguing moneybhags utilises

Seriously, stop telling people what and how to post.
Frank's posting is fine and no-one else sees fit to tell him to change.
This is not your library.
If you want Frank's content catalogued, feel free to do so.
He isn't the reason this place is starting to look like HC.

 

[Der Geist]

Seriously, stop telling people what and how to post.

Frank knows my suggestion is a good one. Why don’t you let him decide ???

 

[TDITD]

Butters was incredible !!

On another note.. who is the fuckwit that reported my post last night mentioning the footy to another member ???

If we can’t get a bit off topic a bit on weekends when a few of the boys are on the piss that’s just pathetic, and not what this forum should be about.

Zeebot this forum has gone downhill BIG time in the last couple of weeks.. and most people in here know why.

Having a bit of a laugh in the weekend while a few in here relax with a few drinks had been a good feature of this forum.. let’s not let a couple of blow-ins call the shots and piss the locals off.

I think you’re AI bot needs to be disabled from a certain couple of posters, which are quite likely the same person trying to manipulate the agenda here.

I give this post what .. 10 mins to be reported ??

Jesus Christ, really guys an gals is that how far we have sunk.
Let's use common sense please
@zeeb0t is there a common denominator here doing all the 'pathetic' reporting, i.e disingenuous reporting gaming the rules.

 

[timb89]

Jesus Christ, really guys an gals is that how far we have sunk.
Let's use common sense please
@zeeb0t is there a common denominator here doing all the 'pathetic' reporting, i.e disingenuous reporting gaming the rules.

Exchange addresses and pen pal if you want to gossip about football in my view. The purpose of a thread in a forum is so you have a localised place to discuss the topic at hand, there's more than enough info on here to read through an entire comment to only discover it was off topic.

 

[Hudnut]

Frank knows my suggestion is a good one. Why don’t you let him decide ???

I thought he made it clear already. This is the second time you've raised it. Let it go.