AVZ Discussion 2022

[Dazmac66]

Hang on, didn't AVZ just win this ruling in the ICC - "restraining Cominière from taking any actions with regards to its purported termination of the Dathcom Joint Venture Agreement (Dathcom JVA)." How can the ICC restrain them one week and then engage in this case the following week? My head hurts!

 

[Azzler]

Could someone a bit smarter than me please break down what they think is going on with this latest ICC action?
I get that it's bullshit, but I mean, what are they saying?

Are they're asking to be payed out?

That's a good sign to me if that is indeed what they're asking.

But I can't make sense of anything much these days, life is crazy stressful at the moment! ARGH!

 

[Xerof]

I think this new ICC rubbish is what Celistin meant by an AUDIT of AVZ in his tweets. Yes, he's possibly gone quiet because of this lodgement

The light at the end of the tunnel keeps getting turned off for AVZ, it's a fucking juggernaut train coming at us, even if it's spurious, illegal, etc etc

I don't like Mondays

 

[Der Geist]

this is getting ugly imo, Cominere and Zijin have gone all in as well, with the recent change of ownership on the map I can hardly justify this is the sole action of CKK or any individual but backed by the corrupt government, hate to say it but we & the management may need to change their way of handling things, tricky times...

Maybe @MoneyBags1348 can get spend time on Zijin and work out if they engaged in insider trading via the Bellamel shell as seen on the AVZ T20 mid 2021
I think a lot of people thought Bellamel took up shares in the capital raising in July 2021. But this is apparenly not so.

Insider trading can have a 10 year jail sentence in this country.

It may also be worth checking Zijin share price at same time as Bellamel selling

Do note if you ask for a copy of the register or view ir, you are entitled to see the former member registry. When Bellamel sold or last held should be viewable

 

[Lucas Don Velor]

The latest announcement clearly shows, (from our perspective),

• the brazen collusion between Jin Cheng and Cominiere,
• and their acknowledgment of the true/potential value of Manono.

Are they digging their own grave?

 

[John25]

The top 25 shareholders in AVZ collectively hold 32.56% of SOI. That's approximately 1.1 billion shares, which is a lot of invested wealth. By comparison, AVZ board members, including Nigel Ferguson hold approx 85 million shares. Nigel Ferguson individually holds 54 million shares.

Among the top 25 shareholders are a number of Chinese entities and individuals. Yibin Tianyi Lithium company and Hau You International Mining are the two largest shareholders with 7.13 and 6.14 percent of shares respectively. They are both Chinese. I am not aware aware of their views or how they are managing their investments in AVZ. Maybe they like getting bent over and reamed by their more powerful corporate countrymen.

Just thinking out aloud and waiting for the footy to start.

Cheers
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I think this new ICC rubbish is what Celistin meant by an AUDIT of AVZ in his tweets. Yes, he's possibly gone quiet because of this lodgement

The light at the end of the tunnel keeps getting turned off for AVZ, it's a fucking juggernaut train coming at us, even if it's spurious, illegal, etc etc

I don't like Mondays

 

[Charbella]

Could someone a bit smarter than me please break down what they think is going on with this latest ICC action?
I get that it's bullshit, but I mean, what are they saying?

Are they're asking to be payed out?

That's a good sign to me if that is indeed what they're asking.

But I can't make sense of anything much these days, life is crazy stressful at the moment! ARGH!

I was thinking the same, they are asking to be paid out.

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Very interesting the timing of this, why didn't they do this much earlier. Last ditch attempt perhaps?

 

[Der Geist]

Could someone a bit smarter than me please break down what they think is going on with this latest ICC action?
I get that it's bullshit, but I mean, what are they saying?

Are they're asking to be payed out?

That's a good sign to me if that is indeed what they're asking.

But I can't make sense of anything much these days, life is crazy stressful at the moment! ARGH!

ICC has become the new twitter

Anyone who says Cominiere SA or Congolese don’t value the International jurisdiction of the ICC Paris for Congo (Kin) will have to explain the current combined action of Cominiere as spurious

 

[Doc]

So Cominiere are out 188k for last weeks ICC decision, they lose this let’s say another $150-200k.
They had previously asked AVZ for money to stay afloat. How they planning to pay for this? Must be in a promise by Jim Cheng Mining. I think they’ll find Jin Cheng to be an unreliable financier if this goes tits up, they’ll be out the door and stop answering the phone.
I say bring it on. It all looks BS to me, perhaps an attempt to try to force AVZ to the negotiating table.
Send ‘em broke AVZ. If we must go down this path let’s go swinging!!!

At some stage the DRC gov will step in.

 

[M.Bison]

I was thinking the same, they are asking to be paid out.

They are asking for damages to be paid out. We pay that and it’s essentially an admission of wrongdoing or guilt. To me it reads pay damages and lose x% of project.

 

[ptlas]

Like I said, I have the proof, other members here can substantiate it, and it was clearly done with intention…. As was a veiled threat by you towards me previously insinuating you knew where I lived, which by the way wasn’t even close

Just because you don’t allow access to your tse account doesn’t mean I haven’t kept the evidence, not sure who you are trying to fool

I’m sure the usual usurping trolls will be out in force doing their best to undermine our company after this morning’s announcement…. You know who I mean, you’ve given them information before

Before I get suspended by zeebots again, he might like to ask me for the proof!!

Hey MB
You're obviously on Zeebots radar.
Might be a good idea to furnish him with the proof before he asks.
He may then turn his attention to the ghost.

I know you're pissed mate, but please don't do a sulk.

He ain't worth it.

Just sayin

IMHO Geist adds nothing, just crystallises what everyone knows, but nobody bothers to explain, about where we're upto.

Then adds negative spin and diverts the conversation onto Numero Uno.

Invariably, a couple of trolls turn up (as some have said) and 'compliment' him.

And that along with today's announcement makes me a little more positive.

BTW threats would indicate emotions which reflect a need for AVZ to lose.
So either he's short or an agent of an AVZ enemy.
Or both.

 

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[RHyNO]

The last buck of life from a clearly injured animal, what a farce, this plays perfectly into our hands. They bought something for 33m then claim it’s worth 580m, somehow it has increased in value while the rightful holder of the tenement has been in trading halt? If the DRC don’t prove themselves to be completely foolish, this will go our way, if they want a 15% stake they can buy it for 580m not a cent less. I just hope Nigel and the “best BOD on the asx” have the right team to argue this. Give zinjin there 33m back and tell ‘em to F off!

 

[Charbella]

They are asking for damages to be paid out. We pay that and it’s essentially an admission of wrongdoing or guilt. To me it reads pay damages and lose x% of project.

Paying damages for? And losing the project? Not making sense.

 

[Xerof]

They're trying to derail us

but throw it right back at them

 

[Azzler]

Hey MB
You're obviously on Zeebots radar.
Might be a good idea to furnish him with the proof before he asks.
He may then turn his attention to the ghost.

I know you're pissed mate, but please don't do a sulk.

He ain't worth it.

Just sayin

IMHO Geist adds nothing, just crystallises what everyone knows, but nobody bothers to explain, about where we're upto.

Then adds negative spin and diverts the conversation onto Numero Uno.

Invariably, a couple of trolls turn up (as some have said) and 'compliment' him.

And that along with today's announcement makes me a little more positive.

BTW threats would indicate emotions which reflect a need for AVZ to lose.
So either he's short or an agent of an AVZ enemy.
Or both.

Yep.
Fancies himself a protege of Little Finger.

Not a friend, possibly even dangerous. Steer clear.

 

[wombat74]

Looks to me like a last desperate act of scare tactic and time wasting . They will be hoping AVZ caves in and comes to their table . Not a chance in hell . Those $50k euros are going to start adding up.

 

[Der Geist]

So Cominiere are out 188k for last weeks ICC decision, they lose this let’s say another $150-200k.
They had previously asked AVZ for money to stay afloat. How they planning to pay for this? Must be in a promise by Jim Cheng Mining. I think they’ll find Jin Cheng to be an unreliable financier if this goes tits up, they’ll be out the door and stop answering the phone.
I say bring it on. It all looks BS to me, perhaps an attempt to try to force AVZ to the negotiating table.
Send ‘em broke AVZ. If we must go down this path let’s go swinging!!!

At some stage the DRC gov will step in.

What I don’t understand is, the 10% attributed to Cominiere SA, is actually the State’s pension scheme entity’s equity not Cominiere SA’s?
MMCS don’t have 5% is clarified

 

[Der Geist]

Hey MB
You're obviously on Zeebots radar.
Might be a good idea to furnish him with the proof before he asks.
He may then turn his attention to the ghost.

I know you're pissed mate, but please don't do a sulk.

He ain't worth it.

Just sayin

IMHO Geist adds nothing, just crystallises what everyone knows, but nobody bothers to explain, about where we're upto.

Then adds negative spin and diverts the conversation onto Numero Uno.

Invariably, a couple of trolls turn up (as some have said) and 'compliment' him.

And that along with today's announcement makes me a little more positive.

BTW threats would indicate emotions which reflect a need for AVZ to lose.
So either he's short or an agent of an AVZ enemy.
Or both.

I’ve asked him to present the evidence.

What I need is,

the date and time of the purported bad action; the “forgery” was posted on TSS

the time and date he discovered the purported bad action,” the forgery”

the date and time this account lost it’s functionality ; was restricted.