AVZ Discussion 2022

ptlas

Regular
Because Nige and the crew are working so incredibly hard for the benefit of shareholders I've taken it upon myself to assist the team by writing up the pending ASX announcement for them

Wanted to be pro-active and helpful and not just be seen as whinging or complaining about the current situation

View attachment 28149
Always the optimist.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 6 users

TDITD

Top 20
You guys are absolutely delusional to think the level of corruption that felix is dealing with can be stamped out in a couple of years. It's systematic and engrained in the culture. Investing in the DRC has always been high risk, high rewards. Make fucking peace with it, cause that's the way it is.

All you have to is look to the USA and the mafia run cities during the 70's and 80's to see how long it takes to stamp out corruption.

This shit takes time, however I do believe the DRC is moving in the right direction.
I don't think anyone here is demanding corruption be fully stamped out within a few years, as yes that's delusional.
My bone to pick is the issue of the absolute utter shitshow around Manono. It's a who's who of cunts, Cong, Mupande, Eckhof, Zijin, Kayinda.

This should have been the poster boy to show off the success foreign investors can have in the DRC. Instead, we have literally everyone who's corrupt jumping all over it trying to get a percentage, to get a cut, to get half our tenement. This wouldn't have happened if Felix would have seen the opportunity for what it is, as obviously the corrupt would have seen the big boss is involved and moved on to other things.

Its the lack of movement until the last year of government and the slowness of any movement as its almost imperceptible.

Of course, this takes time, thanks to Kabila corruption is literally seen by many politicans as normal behaviour. There was that politician early on in Felix's reign who bought himself a house with state funds and was astonished when he was given the boot, I had a good laugh at that.

I do believe the DRC is heading in the right direction too. Although fuck me the issue around Manono was handled terribly by the Government.
Hopefully this reshuffle weakens Mupandes position enough that he goes or gives us the ML begrudgingly, Kayinda and Loando gone too as we want the trash gone so they cant continue the hold up BS once we have the ML.
 
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 12 users
We will know our fate within the next 3 or 4 months . A compromise will be made and we will resume trading . IMO
Yeah that's the plan B timeframe imo

I don't really have a set date for when the licence should be registered by. Unlike Nigel and some posters here I think it's unwise to give predictions that I can't back up.

But this shitshow has gone on long enough and I expect things to start moving rapidly from here or for Felix to issue a presidential decree if there are any more bullshit delays.

I'll go as far to say that if we are still in suspension on April fools day then the joke will most likely be on us. But he who laughs last, laughs loudest imo

tenor (19).gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: 11 users
I

digital? Much of the population dont have electricity ffs!!!
AVZ was going to solve that issue for one province……
”Digital” can mean so many different things. If he’s talking about research, development, and high and tech services, well that’s not happening as the infrastructure and educated human capital does not yet exist.
If he’s referring to investment in infrastructure and technology literacy then it makes far more sense. And yeah, electricity…
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Tinrattler

Emerged
”Digital” can mean so many different things. If he’s talking about research, development, and high and tech services, well that’s not happening as the infrastructure and educated human capital does not yet exist.
If he’s referring to investment in infrastructure and technology literacy then it makes far more sense. And yeah, electricity…
Crypto Farms maybe
 

TDITD

Top 20
We will know our fate within the next 3 or 4 months . A compromise will be made and we will resume trading . IMO
Compromise

You dont go to jail !
 
  • Like
  • Thinking
Reactions: 3 users

Charbella

Regular
 

Attachments

  • D1B73094-AA82-478F-8C28-C11FEAE11950.jpeg
    D1B73094-AA82-478F-8C28-C11FEAE11950.jpeg
    33.2 KB · Views: 67
  • Like
Reactions: 14 users

3E203A27-CC62-4BD5-B841-89AB5AB4E973.jpeg

Two things stand out to me about this comment:
  1. He speaks like Ali G.
  2. It‘s not just snacks getting handed out in the Ministry of Portfolio. It’s hand-jobs all round!
 
  • Haha
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: 21 users

cruiser51

Top 20
I

digital? Much of the population dont have electricity ffs!!!
AVZ was going to solve that issue for one province……
DRC doesn't need Inga 3

See everybody can have a laptop.

1674975374107.png
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: 11 users

Xerof

Have a Cigar 1975
View attachment 28165
Two things stand out to me about this comment:
  1. He speaks like Ali G.
  2. It‘s not just snacks getting handed out in the Ministry of Portfolio. It’s hand-jobs all round!
It’s nearing a climax, in many ways 😳
 
  • Haha
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 11 users

cruiser51

Top 20
”Digital” can mean so many different things. If he’s talking about research, development, and high and tech services, well that’s not happening as the infrastructure and educated human capital does not yet exist.
If he’s referring to investment in infrastructure and technology literacy then it makes far more sense. And yeah, electricity…
A digit can be also a finger, so digital work could be finger work, a bit like finger food.
It could be a Google thing. Sometimes things get lost a little in translation.

Also the Pope is in the DRC with his Pope Mobile from 31/1 to 3/2 and that has priority over the ML.
But the Youtube of the council meeting is interesting from about 3.14.

Never a dull moment in the DRC.

Don't allow the DRC to make your life an emotional roller coaster, there are better things to enjoy. (Like my fucking keyboard playing up)
Too many actors playing silly games in the DRC, as well as OZ, China, Europe and the US, such is life.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 9 users

hedrox

Regular
Screenshot 2023-01-29 at 8.23.43 pm.png
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: 32 users

The Fox

Regular
Ok, I'm back. What did I miss? Where's @MoneyBags1348 ?

Oh, FFS.

Ok, I'll be back at the end of Feb, might be something of importance to discus by then, happy trails everyone.

PS. Interesting articles below.



PPS. FYI, I'll put the golf clubs and fishing rods away for a day and pop back to celebrate the removal of the Princesse assuming this happens in coming days. 👍

Cheers The Fox 🦊
 
  • Like
  • Fire
  • Haha
Reactions: 34 users

TDITD

Top 20
Not imminent again !!

No No No GIF

30yrs from now I’ll be rocking forwards and backwards drooling mumbling in a loop all day “it’s almost here any tick of the clock it’s coming soon”…… In comes Graeme the new asylum worker, “Hi TITS it’s time for your meds, the doctor will be here imminently…” before he can finish the sentence
“Waaahhh weee ooooo weeee ooooo police are coming Mupande, Farken Nigel farken Felix farken soon farken roadshow shit-show no-show slow-mo”…….. Doctor enters “ahhh fuck sorry Graeme I forgot to tell you about that word, it sets him off, poor bastard is still in suspension with AVZ”.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 16 users

Winenut

Go AVZ!
Ok, I'm back. What did I miss? Where's @MoneyBags1348 ?

Oh, FFS.

Ok, I'll be back at the end of Feb, might be something of importance to discus by then, happy trails everyone.

PS. Interesting articles below.



PPS. FYI, I'll put the golf clubs and fishing rods away for a day and pop back to celebrate the removal of the Princesse assuming this happens in coming days. 👍

Cheers The Fox 🦊
Now c'mon Foxy wasn't the ML 2 weeks away 4 weeks ago??
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 17 users

Rediah

Regular
30yrs from now I’ll be rocking forwards and backwards drooling mumbling in a loop all day “it’s almost here any tick of the clock it’s coming soon”…… In comes Graeme the new asylum worker, “Hi TITS it’s time for your meds, the doctor will be here imminently…” before he can finish the sentence
“Waaahhh weee ooooo weeee ooooo police are coming Mupande, Farken Nigel farken Felix farken soon farken roadshow shit-show no-show slow-mo”…….. Doctor enters “ahhh fuck sorry Graeme I forgot to tell you about that word, it sets him off, poor bastard is still in suspension with AVZ”.
For me it’s like opening scene of Inception

I can see all of you in Leonardo’s character coming to wake me up from my dream where I am stuck for eternity …

“Idea (ML) …..resilient, highly contagious , once the idea (ML) has taken hold of a brain, it’s impossible to eradicate”
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 11 users
For me it’s like opening scene of Inception

I can see all of you in Leonardo’s character coming to wake me up from my dream where I am stuck for eternity …

“Idea (ML) …..resilient, highly contagious , once the idea (ML) has taken hold of a brain, it’s impossible to eradicate”
pineapple-spin.gif
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: 12 users

Frank

Top 20
Ok, I'm back. What did I miss? Where's @MoneyBags1348 ?

Oh, FFS.

Ok, I'll be back at the end of Feb, might be something of importance to discus by then, happy trails everyone.

PS. Interesting articles below.



PPS. FYI, I'll put the golf clubs and fishing rods away for a day and pop back to celebrate the removal of the Princesse assuming this happens in coming days. 👍

Cheers The Fox 🦊
*Very interesting indeed Foxy Loxy, Thanks for sharing, Here's the Translated English version, fwiw, as

Tandem ANR – IGF: Tshisekedi's weapon of political deterrence

When it comes to cleaning up his yard or weakening a political adversary, the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, does not hesitate to set in motion his fatal weapon of political deterrence embodied by the tandem ANR (National Intelligence Agency) and the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finance).

To succeed in his last purge in his office, the President of the Republic called on the ANR for the big clean-up and when it comes to warming up the economic or financial files of an embarrassing political actor, the IGF does not miss the opportunity to deploy its great artillery.

With the ANR and the IGF, Tshisekedi sweeps away everything that obstructs his path to success.

This will be the case until the polls in December 2023.

It will have been necessary to wait four years after his accession to the presidency of the Republic to see Félix Tshisekedi finally wake up, and lend an attentive ear to the popular clamor which denounces embezzlement, embezzlement, theft and other signs of enrichment as sudden as unexplained on the part of his relatives or of a multitude claiming his proximity.

Four years of blatant predation which had to be put to an end, during this election year which should end in the perilous exercise of the presentation of the results of the legislature.

Tshisekedi knows it: he alone will be accountable to the people.

So without qualms, he takes out the heavy artillery.

A massive deterrent weapon carried by the National Intelligence Agency (ANR) and the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF).

Everyone keeps in mind the commitment made by Félix Tshisekedi, the new Head of State during his inaugural speech on January 24, 2019.

It's as if it were yesterday.

Just as in his subsequent speeches before parliament or during popular meetings, the President of the Republic never ceased to reiterate his commitment to "humanize" the security services, in particular by closing the multitude of unofficial cells, including those of the National Intelligence Agency (ANR).

The people were then entitled to give it a good dose of credit and confidence, especially since since the party-state (MPR) and the successive regimes of the Kabila, the secret services had been reduced to the rank of organs of repression. of all forms of opposition and dissenting voices in civil society through the muzzling of the press.

It was not uncommon to record abductions, disappearances or long-term detentions (up to several years) without the detainees being brought before a judge. Untimely home checks and searches outside legal hours were commonplace.

Practices that had ended up reducing the DRC to an open-air prison, where freedoms and civil rights had become a wishful thinking.

Conversely, the special services in the exclusive pay of power did not seem to pay particular attention to the management of public finances, which had become the reserved domain of a sort of caste of untouchables above the law.

Common practices in all dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and which continues despite the “change” so vaunted by the supporters of the “People First” ideology.

The twilight of the “strong men”

When he came to power four years ago to the day, Felix Tshisekedi had in mind all these heavinesses that were going to negatively burden his five-year term, unless he put the kibosh on it by taking the bull by the horns, which would have induced to get rid of collaborators who had become cumbersome, but also of the family straitjacket where many of his relatives suddenly discovered the talents of businessmen, mainly in the mining sector.

At the same time as informed circles are buzzing with persistent rumors of massive embezzlement of public funds amid almost general indifference, the Head of State, already worried by a worrying security situation in the east of the country, has to face a rise ambitions in the corridors of the palace, but also among the general officers, some of whom do not hesitate to compromise with hostile foreign powers.

Reluctantly, Tshisekedi finally made the decision to put an end to the "strong men's regime".

To do this, he leans on two pillars which act as his heavy artillery. This is both dissuasive and repressive.

First of all, the National Intelligence Agency (ANR), which is working, under the direction of Biosha Mbelu, to document the files of dishonest senior executives who gravitate in the immediate environment of the Head of State and who believe to be all-powerful to the point of overriding the classic rules of governance.

Since the fall in February 2021 of the former special security adviser, François Beya, things seem to have accelerated in recent weeks.

The cabinet of the Head of State has just experienced an unprecedented purge, reaching its "apotheosis" with the disgrace of the private adviser Fortunat Biselele.



think-happy-thoughts.jpg
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Fire
Reactions: 22 users
*Very interesting indeed Foxy Loxy, Thanks for sharing, Here's the Translated English version, fwiw, as

Tandem ANR – IGF: Tshisekedi's weapon of political deterrence

When it comes to cleaning up his yard or weakening a political adversary, the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, does not hesitate to set in motion his fatal weapon of political deterrence embodied by the tandem ANR (National Intelligence Agency) and the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finance).

To succeed in his last purge in his office, the President of the Republic called on the ANR for the big clean-up and when it comes to warming up the economic or financial files of an embarrassing political actor, the IGF does not miss the opportunity to deploy its great artillery.

With the ANR and the IGF, Tshisekedi sweeps away everything that obstructs his path to success.

This will be the case until the polls in December 2023.

It will have been necessary to wait four years after his accession to the presidency of the Republic to see Félix Tshisekedi finally wake up, and lend an attentive ear to the popular clamor which denounces embezzlement, embezzlement, theft and other signs of enrichment as sudden as unexplained on the part of his relatives or of a multitude claiming his proximity.

Four years of blatant predation which had to be put to an end, during this election year which should end in the perilous exercise of the presentation of the results of the legislature. Tshisekedi knows it: he alone will be accountable to the people.

So without qualms, he takes out the heavy artillery.

A massive deterrent weapon carried by the National Intelligence Agency (ANR) and the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF).

Everyone keeps in mind the commitment made by Félix Tshisekedi, the new Head of State during his inaugural speech on January 24, 2019.

It's as if it were yesterday.

Just as in his subsequent speeches before parliament or during popular meetings, the President of the Republic never ceased to reiterate his commitment to "humanize" the security services, in particular by closing the multitude of unofficial cells, including those of the National Intelligence Agency (ANR).

The people were then entitled to give it a good dose of credit and confidence, especially since since the party-state (MPR) and the successive regimes of the Kabila, the secret services had been reduced to the rank of organs of repression. of all forms of opposition and dissenting voices in civil society through the muzzling of the press.

It was not uncommon to record abductions, disappearances or long-term detentions (up to several years) without the detainees being brought before a judge. Untimely home checks and searches outside legal hours were commonplace.

Practices that had ended up reducing the DRC to an open-air prison, where freedoms and civil rights had become a wishful thinking.

Conversely, the special services in the exclusive pay of power did not seem to pay particular attention to the management of public finances, which had become the reserved domain of a sort of caste of untouchables above the law.

Common practices in all dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and which continues despite the “change” so vaunted by the supporters of the “People First” ideology.

The twilight of the “strong men”

When he came to power four years ago to the day, Felix Tshisekedi had in mind all these heavinesses that were going to negatively burden his five-year term, unless he put the kibosh on it by taking the bull by the horns, which would have induced to get rid of collaborators who had become cumbersome, but also of the family straitjacket where many of his relatives suddenly discovered the talents of businessmen, mainly in the mining sector.

At the same time as informed circles are buzzing with persistent rumors of massive embezzlement of public funds amid almost general indifference, the Head of State, already worried by a worrying security situation in the east of the country, has to face a rise ambitions in the corridors of the palace, but also among the general officers, some of whom do not hesitate to compromise with hostile foreign powers.

Reluctantly, Tshisekedi finally made the decision to put an end to the "strong men's regime".

To do this, he leans on two pillars which act as his heavy artillery. This is both dissuasive and repressive.

First of all, the National Intelligence Agency (ANR), which is working, under the direction of Biosha Mbelu, to document the files of dishonest senior executives who gravitate in the immediate environment of the Head of State and who believe to be all-powerful to the point of overriding the classic rules of governance.

Since the fall in February 2021 of the former special security adviser, François Beya, things seem to have accelerated in recent weeks.

The cabinet of the Head of State has just experienced an unprecedented purge, reaching its "apotheosis" with the disgrace of the private adviser Fortunat Biselele.



View attachment 28208
Every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is
 
  • Like
  • Thinking
Reactions: 8 users
Top Bottom