AVZ Discussion 2022

[Frank]

Ok, I'm back. What did I miss? Where's @MoneyBags1348 ?

Oh, FFS.

Ok, I'll be back at the end of Feb, might be something of importance to discus by then, happy trails everyone.

PS. Interesting articles below.

Tandem ANR – IGF : l’arme de dissuasion politique de Tshisekedi - L'info qui fait échos

Lorsqu’il s’agit de faire le grand ménage dans sa cour ou d’affaiblir un adversaire politique, le Chef de l’Etat, Félix Tshisekedi, n’hésite pas à mettre <a class="mh-excerpt-more" href="https://econewsrdc.com/tandem-anr-igf-larme-de-dissuasion-politique-de-tshisekedi/" title="Tandem ANR – IGF ...

econewsrdc.com

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-falls-behind-in-the-global-race-for-lithium/a-64542125?

PPS. FYI, I'll put the golf clubs and fishing rods away for a day and pop back to celebrate the removal of the Princesse assuming this happens in coming days.

Cheers The Fox

*Very interesting indeed Foxy Loxy, Thanks for sharing, Here's the Translated English version, fwiw, as

Tandem ANR – IGF: Tshisekedi's weapon of political deterrence

When it comes to cleaning up his yard or weakening a political adversary, the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, does not hesitate to set in motion his fatal weapon of political deterrence embodied by the tandem ANR (National Intelligence Agency) and the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finance).

To succeed in his last purge in his office, the President of the Republic called on the ANR for the big clean-up and when it comes to warming up the economic or financial files of an embarrassing political actor, the IGF does not miss the opportunity to deploy its great artillery.

With the ANR and the IGF, Tshisekedi sweeps away everything that obstructs his path to success.

This will be the case until the polls in December 2023.

It will have been necessary to wait four years after his accession to the presidency of the Republic to see Félix Tshisekedi finally wake up, and lend an attentive ear to the popular clamor which denounces embezzlement, embezzlement, theft and other signs of enrichment as sudden as unexplained on the part of his relatives or of a multitude claiming his proximity.

Four years of blatant predation which had to be put to an end, during this election year which should end in the perilous exercise of the presentation of the results of the legislature.

Tshisekedi knows it: he alone will be accountable to the people.

So without qualms, he takes out the heavy artillery.

A massive deterrent weapon carried by the National Intelligence Agency (ANR) and the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF).

Everyone keeps in mind the commitment made by Félix Tshisekedi, the new Head of State during his inaugural speech on January 24, 2019.

It's as if it were yesterday.

Just as in his subsequent speeches before parliament or during popular meetings, the President of the Republic never ceased to reiterate his commitment to "humanize" the security services, in particular by closing the multitude of unofficial cells, including those of the National Intelligence Agency (ANR).

The people were then entitled to give it a good dose of credit and confidence, especially since since the party-state (MPR) and the successive regimes of the Kabila, the secret services had been reduced to the rank of organs of repression. of all forms of opposition and dissenting voices in civil society through the muzzling of the press.

It was not uncommon to record abductions, disappearances or long-term detentions (up to several years) without the detainees being brought before a judge. Untimely home checks and searches outside legal hours were commonplace.

Practices that had ended up reducing the DRC to an open-air prison, where freedoms and civil rights had become a wishful thinking.

Conversely, the special services in the exclusive pay of power did not seem to pay particular attention to the management of public finances, which had become the reserved domain of a sort of caste of untouchables above the law.

Common practices in all dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and which continues despite the “change” so vaunted by the supporters of the “People First” ideology.

The twilight of the “strong men”

When he came to power four years ago to the day, Felix Tshisekedi had in mind all these heavinesses that were going to negatively burden his five-year term, unless he put the kibosh on it by taking the bull by the horns, which would have induced to get rid of collaborators who had become cumbersome, but also of the family straitjacket where many of his relatives suddenly discovered the talents of businessmen, mainly in the mining sector.

At the same time as informed circles are buzzing with persistent rumors of massive embezzlement of public funds amid almost general indifference, the Head of State, already worried by a worrying security situation in the east of the country, has to face a rise ambitions in the corridors of the palace, but also among the general officers, some of whom do not hesitate to compromise with hostile foreign powers.

Reluctantly, Tshisekedi finally made the decision to put an end to the "strong men's regime".

To do this, he leans on two pillars which act as his heavy artillery. This is both dissuasive and repressive.

First of all, the National Intelligence Agency (ANR), which is working, under the direction of Biosha Mbelu, to document the files of dishonest senior executives who gravitate in the immediate environment of the Head of State and who believe to be all-powerful to the point of overriding the classic rules of governance.

Since the fall in February 2021 of the former special security adviser, François Beya, things seem to have accelerated in recent weeks.

The cabinet of the Head of State has just experienced an unprecedented purge, reaching its "apotheosis" with the disgrace of the private adviser Fortunat Biselele.

Tandem ANR – IGF : l’arme de dissuasion politique de Tshisekedi - L'info qui fait échos

Lorsqu’il s’agit de faire le grand ménage dans sa cour ou d’affaiblir un adversaire politique, le Chef de l’Etat, Félix Tshisekedi, n’hésite pas à mettre <a class="mh-excerpt-more" href="https://econewsrdc.com/tandem-anr-igf-larme-de-dissuasion-politique-de-tshisekedi/" title="Tandem ANR – IGF ...

econewsrdc.com

 

[Carlos Danger]

*Very interesting indeed Foxy Loxy, Thanks for sharing, Here's the Translated English version, fwiw, as

Tandem ANR – IGF: Tshisekedi's weapon of political deterrence

When it comes to cleaning up his yard or weakening a political adversary, the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, does not hesitate to set in motion his fatal weapon of political deterrence embodied by the tandem ANR (National Intelligence Agency) and the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finance).

To succeed in his last purge in his office, the President of the Republic called on the ANR for the big clean-up and when it comes to warming up the economic or financial files of an embarrassing political actor, the IGF does not miss the opportunity to deploy its great artillery.

With the ANR and the IGF, Tshisekedi sweeps away everything that obstructs his path to success.

This will be the case until the polls in December 2023.

It will have been necessary to wait four years after his accession to the presidency of the Republic to see Félix Tshisekedi finally wake up, and lend an attentive ear to the popular clamor which denounces embezzlement, embezzlement, theft and other signs of enrichment as sudden as unexplained on the part of his relatives or of a multitude claiming his proximity.

Four years of blatant predation which had to be put to an end, during this election year which should end in the perilous exercise of the presentation of the results of the legislature. Tshisekedi knows it: he alone will be accountable to the people.

So without qualms, he takes out the heavy artillery.

A massive deterrent weapon carried by the National Intelligence Agency (ANR) and the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF).

Everyone keeps in mind the commitment made by Félix Tshisekedi, the new Head of State during his inaugural speech on January 24, 2019.

It's as if it were yesterday.

Just as in his subsequent speeches before parliament or during popular meetings, the President of the Republic never ceased to reiterate his commitment to "humanize" the security services, in particular by closing the multitude of unofficial cells, including those of the National Intelligence Agency (ANR).

The people were then entitled to give it a good dose of credit and confidence, especially since since the party-state (MPR) and the successive regimes of the Kabila, the secret services had been reduced to the rank of organs of repression. of all forms of opposition and dissenting voices in civil society through the muzzling of the press.

It was not uncommon to record abductions, disappearances or long-term detentions (up to several years) without the detainees being brought before a judge. Untimely home checks and searches outside legal hours were commonplace.

Practices that had ended up reducing the DRC to an open-air prison, where freedoms and civil rights had become a wishful thinking.

Conversely, the special services in the exclusive pay of power did not seem to pay particular attention to the management of public finances, which had become the reserved domain of a sort of caste of untouchables above the law.

Common practices in all dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and which continues despite the “change” so vaunted by the supporters of the “People First” ideology.

The twilight of the “strong men”

When he came to power four years ago to the day, Felix Tshisekedi had in mind all these heavinesses that were going to negatively burden his five-year term, unless he put the kibosh on it by taking the bull by the horns, which would have induced to get rid of collaborators who had become cumbersome, but also of the family straitjacket where many of his relatives suddenly discovered the talents of businessmen, mainly in the mining sector.

At the same time as informed circles are buzzing with persistent rumors of massive embezzlement of public funds amid almost general indifference, the Head of State, already worried by a worrying security situation in the east of the country, has to face a rise ambitions in the corridors of the palace, but also among the general officers, some of whom do not hesitate to compromise with hostile foreign powers.

Reluctantly, Tshisekedi finally made the decision to put an end to the "strong men's regime".

To do this, he leans on two pillars which act as his heavy artillery. This is both dissuasive and repressive.

First of all, the National Intelligence Agency (ANR), which is working, under the direction of Biosha Mbelu, to document the files of dishonest senior executives who gravitate in the immediate environment of the Head of State and who believe to be all-powerful to the point of overriding the classic rules of governance.

Since the fall in February 2021 of the former special security adviser, François Beya, things seem to have accelerated in recent weeks.

The cabinet of the Head of State has just experienced an unprecedented purge, reaching its "apotheosis" with the disgrace of the private adviser Fortunat Biselele.

Tandem ANR – IGF : l’arme de dissuasion politique de Tshisekedi - L'info qui fait échos

Lorsqu’il s’agit de faire le grand ménage dans sa cour ou d’affaiblir un adversaire politique, le Chef de l’Etat, Félix Tshisekedi, n’hésite pas à mettre <a class="mh-excerpt-more" href="https://econewsrdc.com/tandem-anr-igf-larme-de-dissuasion-politique-de-tshisekedi/" title="Tandem ANR – IGF ...

econewsrdc.com

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Every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is

 

[John25]

Every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is

Our toothless old fat lion …”hears nothing ..sees nothing “

 

[whales]

Every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is

Problem is the jackal Mupunde is still controlling CAMI .
Take him to ICC then FT only needs to implement court ruling.

 

[TDITD]

What we need to be

What we are currently

 

[Carlos Danger]

Problem is the jackal Mupunde is still controlling CAMI .
Take him to ICC then FT only needs to implement court ruling.

The ICC would take too long. This is a governance issue within the DRC. Mupande will be gone far sooner than what going through an international arbitration process would take imo

 

[Doc]

What we need to be

What we are currently

Hey!

 

[Carlos Danger]

Our toothless old fat lion …”hears nothing ..sees nothing “
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What we need to be

What we are currently

Bernays was right

 

[TDITD]

This fella….

Nah….
he was a man of words, right now we need a man of action…

Let’s start punching people in the face

 

[j.l]

*Very interesting indeed Foxy Loxy, Thanks for sharing, Here's the Translated English version, fwiw, as

Tandem ANR – IGF: Tshisekedi's weapon of political deterrence

When it comes to cleaning up his yard or weakening a political adversary, the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi, does not hesitate to set in motion his fatal weapon of political deterrence embodied by the tandem ANR (National Intelligence Agency) and the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finance).

To succeed in his last purge in his office, the President of the Republic called on the ANR for the big clean-up and when it comes to warming up the economic or financial files of an embarrassing political actor, the IGF does not miss the opportunity to deploy its great artillery.

With the ANR and the IGF, Tshisekedi sweeps away everything that obstructs his path to success.

This will be the case until the polls in December 2023.

It will have been necessary to wait four years after his accession to the presidency of the Republic to see Félix Tshisekedi finally wake up, and lend an attentive ear to the popular clamor which denounces embezzlement, embezzlement, theft and other signs of enrichment as sudden as unexplained on the part of his relatives or of a multitude claiming his proximity.

Four years of blatant predation which had to be put to an end, during this election year which should end in the perilous exercise of the presentation of the results of the legislature. Tshisekedi knows it: he alone will be accountable to the people.

So without qualms, he takes out the heavy artillery.

A massive deterrent weapon carried by the National Intelligence Agency (ANR) and the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF).

Everyone keeps in mind the commitment made by Félix Tshisekedi, the new Head of State during his inaugural speech on January 24, 2019.

It's as if it were yesterday.

Just as in his subsequent speeches before parliament or during popular meetings, the President of the Republic never ceased to reiterate his commitment to "humanize" the security services, in particular by closing the multitude of unofficial cells, including those of the National Intelligence Agency (ANR).

The people were then entitled to give it a good dose of credit and confidence, especially since since the party-state (MPR) and the successive regimes of the Kabila, the secret services had been reduced to the rank of organs of repression. of all forms of opposition and dissenting voices in civil society through the muzzling of the press.

It was not uncommon to record abductions, disappearances or long-term detentions (up to several years) without the detainees being brought before a judge. Untimely home checks and searches outside legal hours were commonplace.

Practices that had ended up reducing the DRC to an open-air prison, where freedoms and civil rights had become a wishful thinking.

Conversely, the special services in the exclusive pay of power did not seem to pay particular attention to the management of public finances, which had become the reserved domain of a sort of caste of untouchables above the law.

Common practices in all dictatorships and authoritarian regimes and which continues despite the “change” so vaunted by the supporters of the “People First” ideology.

The twilight of the “strong men”

When he came to power four years ago to the day, Felix Tshisekedi had in mind all these heavinesses that were going to negatively burden his five-year term, unless he put the kibosh on it by taking the bull by the horns, which would have induced to get rid of collaborators who had become cumbersome, but also of the family straitjacket where many of his relatives suddenly discovered the talents of businessmen, mainly in the mining sector.

At the same time as informed circles are buzzing with persistent rumors of massive embezzlement of public funds amid almost general indifference, the Head of State, already worried by a worrying security situation in the east of the country, has to face a rise ambitions in the corridors of the palace, but also among the general officers, some of whom do not hesitate to compromise with hostile foreign powers.

Reluctantly, Tshisekedi finally made the decision to put an end to the "strong men's regime".

To do this, he leans on two pillars which act as his heavy artillery. This is both dissuasive and repressive.

First of all, the National Intelligence Agency (ANR), which is working, under the direction of Biosha Mbelu, to document the files of dishonest senior executives who gravitate in the immediate environment of the Head of State and who believe to be all-powerful to the point of overriding the classic rules of governance.

Since the fall in February 2021 of the former special security adviser, François Beya, things seem to have accelerated in recent weeks.

The cabinet of the Head of State has just experienced an unprecedented purge, reaching its "apotheosis" with the disgrace of the private adviser Fortunat Biselele.

Tandem ANR – IGF : l’arme de dissuasion politique de Tshisekedi - L'info qui fait échos

Lorsqu’il s’agit de faire le grand ménage dans sa cour ou d’affaiblir un adversaire politique, le Chef de l’Etat, Félix Tshisekedi, n’hésite pas à mettre <a class="mh-excerpt-more" href="https://econewsrdc.com/tandem-anr-igf-larme-de-dissuasion-politique-de-tshisekedi/" title="Tandem ANR – IGF ...

econewsrdc.com

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I find this article vey encouraging, and also think it aligns with the situation hinted at by Nigel in the AGM and also what @Carlos Danger has pointed to a few times (lions jackals etc).

One could be excused for developing bipolar disorder from the swings between optimism and pessimism during this whole affair...

 

[Winenut]

I find this article vey encouraging, and also think it aligns with the situation hinted at by Nigel in the AGM and also what @Carlos Danger has pointed to a few times (lions jackals etc).

One could be excused for developing bipolar disorder from the swings between optimism and pessimism during this whole affair...

"One could be excused for developing bipolar disorder from the swings between optimism and pessimism during this whole affair..."

Yeah...nah...yeah...nah......yeah........nah......yeah.....

 

[TDITD]

I find this article vey encouraging, and also think it aligns with the situation hinted at by Nigel in the AGM and also what @Carlos Danger has pointed to a few times (lions jackals etc).

One could be excused for developing bipolar disorder from the swings between optimism and pessimism during this whole affair...

Very true looks good and positive that hints are happening behind the scenes.

What are you talking about tits you tit we have got about 27 fake MLs so far but not the real one, Mupande still doing as he wishes, get a grip you wanker.

Yea but these things take time, they are rooted in corruption and Mupande has obviously entrenched himself, the advisors Felix has fired would no doubt be big advocates of his so things are looking better and soon Kayinda another Mupande loyalist will be gone.

Bipolar disorder, mate speak for yourself

 

[Thaz]

So the Mrs and I are looking at buying a property - given the current market - it would be extremely great if we could access these (not an insignificant amount) funds.

It would be also great if on open - they would confirm ML, DFS, and all the bells and whistles we've been promised and it'll shoot up to the previous high of $1.30 - and hopefully beyond.

 

[obe wan]

So the Mrs and I are looking at buying a property - given the current market - it would be extremely great if we could access these (not an insignificant amount) funds.

It would be also great if on open - they would confirm ML, DFS, and all the bells and whistles we've been promised and it'll shoot up to the previous high of $1.30 - and hopefully beyond.

Not sure it will head straight for the dollar mark ; there's something like 138m that need to be sold ETF / index funds ...theres more than that in shorts at around 145m that will be in the market for those ETF / Index shares, but i reckon there will likely also be over 100m or more that will be sold as people will just want cash out for a multitude of reasons.

Canaccord whom sold on ML / decree ann, I'd imagine would be keen to get back on board at the lower price considering they made a motsa on sales prior to suspension ; so they'll be absorbing I reckon....after the dust settles and ML license in hand, id imagine that it should start to climb back north

 

[Thaz]

Not sure it will head straight for the dollar mark ; there's something like 138m that need to be sold ETF / index funds ...theres more than that in shorts at around 145m that will be in the market for those ETF / Index shares, but i reckon there will likely also be over 100m or more that will be sold as people will just want cash out for a multitude of reasons.

Canaccord whom sold on ML / decree ann, I'd imagine would be keen to get back on board at the lower price considering they made a motsa on sales prior to suspension ; so they'll be absorbing I reckon....after the dust settles and ML license in hand, id imagine that it should start to climb back north

haha yeah, totally understand that.

This is me (and everyone else) right now.

 

[Doc]

Not sure it will head straight for the dollar mark ; there's something like 138m that need to be sold ETF / index funds ...theres more than that in shorts at around 145m that will be in the market for those ETF / Index shares, but i reckon there will likely also be over 100m or more that will be sold as people will just want cash out for a multitude of reasons.

Canaccord whom sold on ML / decree ann, I'd imagine would be keen to get back on board at the lower price considering they made a motsa on sales prior to suspension ; so they'll be absorbing I reckon....after the dust settles and ML license in hand, id imagine that it should start to climb back north

Faaaark, imagine being able to talk about the day to day gyrations of the SP!!
Ahhh those were the days….

 

[Winenut]

Faaaark, imagine being able to talk about the day to day gyrations of the SP!!
Ahhh those were the days….

 

[Li-AusPol]

Not sure it will head straight for the dollar mark ; there's something like 138m that need to be sold ETF / index funds ...theres more than that in shorts at around 145m that will be in the market for those ETF / Index shares, but i reckon there will likely also be over 100m or more that will be sold as people will just want cash out for a multitude of reasons.

Canaccord whom sold on ML / decree ann, I'd imagine would be keen to get back on board at the lower price considering they made a motsa on sales prior to suspension ; so they'll be absorbing I reckon....after the dust settles and ML license in hand, id imagine that it should start to climb back north

Nige eluded to this in the Brisbane road show

- that he expected an initial drop to SP due to ASX 200 funds exiting
- then followed by SP recovery with the coming news/milestones that they expect to release after ML

I’ll be loading up on any major SP weakness

There’s another Lithium stock on the ASX without any resource define that’s MC is almost the same as AVZs

Crazy times

 

[BRICK]

So the Mrs and I are looking at buying a property - given the current market - it would be extremely great if we could access these (not an insignificant amount) funds.

It would be also great if on open - they would confirm ML, DFS, and all the bells and whistles we've been promised and it'll shoot up to the previous high of $1.30 - and hopefully beyond.

Oh i fucking hear you there....

Im in the same boat.

 

[Samus]

Nige eluded to this in the Brisbane road show

- that he expected an initial drop to SP due to ASX 200 funds exiting
- then followed by SP recovery with the coming news/milestones that they expect to release after ML

I’ll be loading up on any major SP weakness

There’s another Lithium stock on the ASX without any resource define that’s MC is almost the same as AVZs

Crazy times

Wonder if he also expected the suspension to last 10+ months?
If we ever open we'll get smashed imo. Could be a slow road to recovery given the mine build will take at least 2 years (undoubtedly a lot longer in Africa time) and the sovereign risk is off the charts beyond anyone's wildest expectations.
Hope for the best though, I'd like to offload for a decent price sooner than later.