Samus
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I think it's where someone reaches around and wanks you with a cheese grater. Just like every announcement to date.
Lucky you gets a double wank this time around.
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Lucky you gets a double wank this time around.
Bray
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Can’t like this enough… sick of being fucked every month without permission
Carlos Danger
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Dave Evans
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Cumquat Cap
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Isn't that his wife?
Winenut
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Pretty clear there's a number of profiles on Twitter baiting everyone to get stuck in to the DRC officials. Guys and gals, just be aware you are taking the bait.
They are posting excessively positive comments on DRC officials, the same officials we all feel/know are working against us, what a coincidence. Why would they do that? is it to express their love for the DRC? Is it to piss you off? I think not.
It is to get you to react and provide them with ammunition. They have already shown they screenshot everything.
I am very confident these attacks on the officials are being seen in the DRC, and it doesn't help. Personally I believe posting the facts of AVZ's achievements are more effective and cannot be used against us, facts are facts.
They are posting excessively positive comments on DRC officials, the same officials we all feel/know are working against us, what a coincidence. Why would they do that? is it to express their love for the DRC? Is it to piss you off? I think not.
It is to get you to react and provide them with ammunition. They have already shown they screenshot everything.
I am very confident these attacks on the officials are being seen in the DRC, and it doesn't help. Personally I believe posting the facts of AVZ's achievements are more effective and cannot be used against us, facts are facts.
This is nothing new but there seems to be this constant social media claim from DRC people about the DRC Govt needing to ‘make the right decision for the DRC’ or ‘act in the best interest of the DRC’. This sentiment is an understandable stance for a patriot (as I would have for Australia) but this needs to be reflected in the mining code. If the DRC wants an international company to investigate, drill, and sure up a resource and then claim to have a right to a greater % of its ownership if it proves to be a winner, then put this condition in the mining code. If this is in the best interests of the DRC then put it in the mining code. I am not sure how many international investors will want to participate in the investment but at least buyer beware. AVZ has abided by the mining code. C’mon Nige and team, keep fighting the good fight!
Frank
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* It's hard to believe, but The Business of doing Business in the DRC is in a Bad way - OMG call the Sheriff 
Business climate: Félix Tshisekedi thunders after noticing excessive shenanigans at the one-stop shop
In his statement made during the meeting of the Council of Ministers of June 16, 2023, the President of the Republic Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo mentioned the deterioration of the conditions for creating businesses in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
In the report of the Council of Ministers, the Minister of Communication and Media, government spokesman, Patrick Muyaya, hammered home the recommendations of the Head of State who invited the Executive to the need to work to improving the business climate.
On the basis of the information in his possession, he underlined, the President of the Republic dwelt again on the more than worrying situation of the Single Window for Business Creation (GUCE).
"For the Head of State, this entity, though created to facilitate the installation of investors in the country and the formalization of the activities of economic operators, has unfortunately for some time been experiencing a dysfunction in its service characterized, in particular, by long waiting times and discontinuity of service,” said the government spokesman in his report after the meeting of the Council of Ministers.
According to him, the stakeholders were urgently invited to find solutions to put an end to the difficulties currently deplored.
"In view of the seriousness of the situation, the President of the Republic has asked the Prime Minister, Head of Government, to convene around him, as soon as possible, the main stakeholders to, in the very short term, resolve the difficulties of financing and taking charge of the agents and pooling of the intervening services which arise within the GUCE; in the medium term, proceed in parallel with an evaluation of the reform of the GUCE which should make it possible to identify the avenues likely to promote the optimization of the completion of business formalities”, indicated Minister Patrick Muyaya.
In the same vein, the government spokesperson specified that the unit (Business climate) will have to be called upon to find solutions to this problem.
It should be understood that the remorse and anger of the President of the Republic will be able to move things forward in the direction of putting an end to the shenanigans that are already taking shape at the Single Window.
mediacongo
*Shame he doesn't feel / act the same about the "Excessive Shenanigans" at Manono
Because there's a Shitload of Shenanigans going on over there atm
Oh, that's right, I forgot - We don't talk about that in Public
Do we Fatshit
Tick - Tock
Business climate: Félix Tshisekedi thunders after noticing excessive shenanigans at the one-stop shop
In his statement made during the meeting of the Council of Ministers of June 16, 2023, the President of the Republic Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo mentioned the deterioration of the conditions for creating businesses in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
In the report of the Council of Ministers, the Minister of Communication and Media, government spokesman, Patrick Muyaya, hammered home the recommendations of the Head of State who invited the Executive to the need to work to improving the business climate.
On the basis of the information in his possession, he underlined, the President of the Republic dwelt again on the more than worrying situation of the Single Window for Business Creation (GUCE).
"For the Head of State, this entity, though created to facilitate the installation of investors in the country and the formalization of the activities of economic operators, has unfortunately for some time been experiencing a dysfunction in its service characterized, in particular, by long waiting times and discontinuity of service,” said the government spokesman in his report after the meeting of the Council of Ministers.
According to him, the stakeholders were urgently invited to find solutions to put an end to the difficulties currently deplored.
"In view of the seriousness of the situation, the President of the Republic has asked the Prime Minister, Head of Government, to convene around him, as soon as possible, the main stakeholders to, in the very short term, resolve the difficulties of financing and taking charge of the agents and pooling of the intervening services which arise within the GUCE; in the medium term, proceed in parallel with an evaluation of the reform of the GUCE which should make it possible to identify the avenues likely to promote the optimization of the completion of business formalities”, indicated Minister Patrick Muyaya.
In the same vein, the government spokesperson specified that the unit (Business climate) will have to be called upon to find solutions to this problem.
It should be understood that the remorse and anger of the President of the Republic will be able to move things forward in the direction of putting an end to the shenanigans that are already taking shape at the Single Window.
mediacongo
*Shame he doesn't feel / act the same about the "Excessive Shenanigans" at Manono
Because there's a Shitload of Shenanigans going on over there atm
Oh, that's right, I forgot - We don't talk about that in Public
Do we Fatshit
Tick - Tock
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It's probably worth doing if it breaks this deadlock. Sure the Mining Code says DRC has to be 10% but that's just a minimum requirement, can certainly have more. Ivanhoe/Zijin agreed to cede 20% to DRC when they were having licensing issues, and they've been on the gravy train since. Sure it was alleged they also engaged with brownie bags, which we cant do, but if thats what the holdup is then a negotiation is in order. Perhaps could say we'll cede 10% of the dathomir 15% should we win that ICC case? Just to get us across the line
Frank
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*Well, well, well, Music to President Fatshits ears i'm sure, as
Comeback of Joseph Kabila: the Congolese do not want it
If it was a trial balloon, Joseph Kabila now has irrefutable proof: the Congolese do not want his return to the active political scene, especially not at the head of the country.
During the program “Appels sur l’actualité” broadcast by Radio France Internationale (RFI), Tuesday June 20, 2023, all the speakers clearly expressed themselves against his comeback.
After nearly three years of silence where he spent most of his time between his private farms in Kinshasa and Greater Katanga, the former head of state spoke to the few barons of his political family, Front common for the Congo (FCC) who have remained faithful to him.
After criticizing the management of the country by his successor Félix Tshisekedi, he denied having retired from politics and announced that he will address the Congolese people very soon.
Unfortunately for the man who led the DRC from 2001 to January 2019, the Congolese people only expect an apology from him to the many families who are victims of the atrocities and human rights violations committed under his reign and nothing else.
In any case, this is what almost all of the participants in the aforementioned program wanted.
“He is free, in accordance with Article 23 of the Constitution, to express his opinions, his thoughts, but to wait for him to come back, to tell us what?
Because he forgot that there are two dynamics that drove him out of power: the internal dynamic where he practically swam in mismanagement, mixing, infiltration and weakening of our army... today the age average Congolese soldier is 50 years old.
Can a 50-year-old soldier fight?
And, the external dynamic with in particular sanctions from the European Union, the American Treasury which targeted his relatives.
What is he going to tell us?
When he comes back, I expect him to ask forgiveness from us, we who have lost parents, who have been victims, that he ask forgiveness from the family of Rossy Mukendi, Kapangala, Floribert Chebeya, of Fidèle Bazana who was never buried and other victims.
As long as he does not ask the Congolese people for forgiveness, we will not listen to what he says," said a Congolese whose mother was killed during the Kamwina Nsapu militia conflict in the Kasai under Kabila.
At least as a deputy or senator
Another speaker maintained that if there are Congolese who would wait for the return of Joseph Kabila to the political scene, they are necessarily privileged people of his regime, who have benefited from it to the detriment of the rest of the population.
Moreover, the small fringe of Congolese who say they are in favor of the return of the former President of the Republic prefer to see him run for a seat in the national legislative elections or become active as a senator.
“Kabila and his clan have no interest in forcing a door that is locked.
I would like to see Kabila as a national deputy or active senator to bring his experience. He may well be a minister,” said one speaker.
Another continued that the people of his clan, the FCC, push him to fault and that he must avoid falling into their trap.
“Kabila cannot venture to present his candidacy because it will not pass. The Constitutional Court has already ruled on this.
The Constitution has already decided.
Two terms, no more. Kabila may well return to the legislative elections. But as President of the Republic, his time is already over, ”insisted this RFI listener.
Moreover, the most informed Congolese are convinced that if the national farmer manages to make a comeback at the head of the country, it will be to deal the deathblow to the DRC.
“For eighteen years, he brought the country to its knees".
"Corruption was the mode of management. It has destroyed the socio-economic fabric of the country. He destroyed justice and the army,” recalled a listener from Kinshasa.
It should be noted that the future of Joseph Kabila is sealed by article 70 of the constitution, which stipulates that: “The President of the Republic is elected by direct universal suffrage for a five-year term renewable only once.
At the end of his mandate, the President of the Republic remains in office until the effective installation of the new elected President. »
mediacongo
Food for thought
Frank
Comeback of Joseph Kabila: the Congolese do not want it
If it was a trial balloon, Joseph Kabila now has irrefutable proof: the Congolese do not want his return to the active political scene, especially not at the head of the country.
During the program “Appels sur l’actualité” broadcast by Radio France Internationale (RFI), Tuesday June 20, 2023, all the speakers clearly expressed themselves against his comeback.
After nearly three years of silence where he spent most of his time between his private farms in Kinshasa and Greater Katanga, the former head of state spoke to the few barons of his political family, Front common for the Congo (FCC) who have remained faithful to him.
After criticizing the management of the country by his successor Félix Tshisekedi, he denied having retired from politics and announced that he will address the Congolese people very soon.
Unfortunately for the man who led the DRC from 2001 to January 2019, the Congolese people only expect an apology from him to the many families who are victims of the atrocities and human rights violations committed under his reign and nothing else.
In any case, this is what almost all of the participants in the aforementioned program wanted.
“He is free, in accordance with Article 23 of the Constitution, to express his opinions, his thoughts, but to wait for him to come back, to tell us what?
Because he forgot that there are two dynamics that drove him out of power: the internal dynamic where he practically swam in mismanagement, mixing, infiltration and weakening of our army... today the age average Congolese soldier is 50 years old.
Can a 50-year-old soldier fight?
And, the external dynamic with in particular sanctions from the European Union, the American Treasury which targeted his relatives.
What is he going to tell us?
When he comes back, I expect him to ask forgiveness from us, we who have lost parents, who have been victims, that he ask forgiveness from the family of Rossy Mukendi, Kapangala, Floribert Chebeya, of Fidèle Bazana who was never buried and other victims.
As long as he does not ask the Congolese people for forgiveness, we will not listen to what he says," said a Congolese whose mother was killed during the Kamwina Nsapu militia conflict in the Kasai under Kabila.
At least as a deputy or senator
Another speaker maintained that if there are Congolese who would wait for the return of Joseph Kabila to the political scene, they are necessarily privileged people of his regime, who have benefited from it to the detriment of the rest of the population.
Moreover, the small fringe of Congolese who say they are in favor of the return of the former President of the Republic prefer to see him run for a seat in the national legislative elections or become active as a senator.
“Kabila and his clan have no interest in forcing a door that is locked.
I would like to see Kabila as a national deputy or active senator to bring his experience. He may well be a minister,” said one speaker.
Another continued that the people of his clan, the FCC, push him to fault and that he must avoid falling into their trap.
“Kabila cannot venture to present his candidacy because it will not pass. The Constitutional Court has already ruled on this.
The Constitution has already decided.
Two terms, no more. Kabila may well return to the legislative elections. But as President of the Republic, his time is already over, ”insisted this RFI listener.
Moreover, the most informed Congolese are convinced that if the national farmer manages to make a comeback at the head of the country, it will be to deal the deathblow to the DRC.
“For eighteen years, he brought the country to its knees".
"Corruption was the mode of management. It has destroyed the socio-economic fabric of the country. He destroyed justice and the army,” recalled a listener from Kinshasa.
It should be noted that the future of Joseph Kabila is sealed by article 70 of the constitution, which stipulates that: “The President of the Republic is elected by direct universal suffrage for a five-year term renewable only once.
At the end of his mandate, the President of the Republic remains in office until the effective installation of the new elected President. »
mediacongo
Food for thought
Frank
My thoughts
The Democratic Republic of the Congo's (DRC) ambition for vertical integration of lithium into batteries is contingent upon the production of the Manono mine. Despite the DRC's numerous meetings, it is unlikely to be taken seriously in the Western world, where investors are unwilling to risk their capital without tangible progress.
French President Macron addressed this issue directly by advising FT to focus on domestic matters instead of globe-trotting. Such frank remarks underscore the need for the DRC to address internal challenges before gaining international credibility.
Manono's value remains significant, regardless of the mining license's status. Although the current lithium spot market is relatively subdued compared to the peak it reached last year, it is important to consider the anticipated future surge in lithium prices during the mine's operational lifespan. Historical projections suggest that demand will outpace supply.
There is also a race to secure off-take agreements to ensure a consistent supply of lithium. Manono, provided the government upholds its own laws, is an ideal source for maintaining uninterrupted supply. This factor must be considered in evaluating the Dathcom/Manono project.
As an illustration of pricing trends, Lithium Carbonate reached CNY597,500 per tonne, equivalent to AUD$122,507 per tonne.
Lithium - 2023 Data - 2017-2022 Historical - 2024 Forecast - Price - Quote - Chart (tradingeconomics.com)
If Sin Bin has approached AVZ to acquire their interests in Dathcom, it can be assumed that the mining license approval has either been promised or is guaranteed, even if it has not been officially issued. Therefore, any negotiations with Sin Bin regarding the mine's purchase should proceed under the assumption of approved or guaranteed mining rights.
While it may appear that the DRC disregards its international image, public mockery and ridicule of government officials during their international trips would undoubtedly cause reputational damage on the global stage. This issue will be further accentuated through actions within the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID), involving key figures such as the President, Prime Minister, Ministry of Mines, and the World Bank.
If FT loses the elections in December, there could be a potential reshuffling of ministers, which might lead to a clean slate and potentially nullify previous commitments made to questionable actors, thereby facilitating the approval of the mining license.
Sharing factual information about AVZ's experiences on Twitter can be beneficial in shedding light on the situation.
In this context, alliances may form based on the principle that "my enemy's enemy is my friend."
Regards,
Silent - This is not advice but purely an opinion - do your own research
I fully support Nigel and his team
The Democratic Republic of the Congo's (DRC) ambition for vertical integration of lithium into batteries is contingent upon the production of the Manono mine. Despite the DRC's numerous meetings, it is unlikely to be taken seriously in the Western world, where investors are unwilling to risk their capital without tangible progress.
French President Macron addressed this issue directly by advising FT to focus on domestic matters instead of globe-trotting. Such frank remarks underscore the need for the DRC to address internal challenges before gaining international credibility.
Manono's value remains significant, regardless of the mining license's status. Although the current lithium spot market is relatively subdued compared to the peak it reached last year, it is important to consider the anticipated future surge in lithium prices during the mine's operational lifespan. Historical projections suggest that demand will outpace supply.
There is also a race to secure off-take agreements to ensure a consistent supply of lithium. Manono, provided the government upholds its own laws, is an ideal source for maintaining uninterrupted supply. This factor must be considered in evaluating the Dathcom/Manono project.
As an illustration of pricing trends, Lithium Carbonate reached CNY597,500 per tonne, equivalent to AUD$122,507 per tonne.
Lithium - 2023 Data - 2017-2022 Historical - 2024 Forecast - Price - Quote - Chart (tradingeconomics.com)
If Sin Bin has approached AVZ to acquire their interests in Dathcom, it can be assumed that the mining license approval has either been promised or is guaranteed, even if it has not been officially issued. Therefore, any negotiations with Sin Bin regarding the mine's purchase should proceed under the assumption of approved or guaranteed mining rights.
While it may appear that the DRC disregards its international image, public mockery and ridicule of government officials during their international trips would undoubtedly cause reputational damage on the global stage. This issue will be further accentuated through actions within the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID), involving key figures such as the President, Prime Minister, Ministry of Mines, and the World Bank.
If FT loses the elections in December, there could be a potential reshuffling of ministers, which might lead to a clean slate and potentially nullify previous commitments made to questionable actors, thereby facilitating the approval of the mining license.
Sharing factual information about AVZ's experiences on Twitter can be beneficial in shedding light on the situation.
In this context, alliances may form based on the principle that "my enemy's enemy is my friend."
Regards,
Silent - This is not advice but purely an opinion - do your own research
I fully support Nigel and his team
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Uglybob
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Everyone seems to be set on a TO and some weirdos are throwing around prices that aren't $12 
, but realistically, I can't see the Worlds best BOD entertaining any sort of TO talk unless there's a ML included. They've spent a lot of time and energy so no way they would sell out and lose their lucrative paycheck unless they were getting more than compensated through the $$$ for the shares they own.
I have no idea what the SP is realistically worth in the current market with or without the ML as I'm not smart enough to calculate it, but I do recognise there's always the biggest wave of negativity and criticism right before something interesting gets announced.
So many on here complaining about wishing they'd never bought in and would sell out in a heartbeat, just as the lowballers, trolls and schemers want.
Grow a set, hang on and wait and see how it all plays out. But please stop carrying on like a pork chop because you took a risk and you aren;t happy with the outcome.
, but realistically, I can't see the Worlds best BOD entertaining any sort of TO talk unless there's a ML included. They've spent a lot of time and energy so no way they would sell out and lose their lucrative paycheck unless they were getting more than compensated through the $$$ for the shares they own.I have no idea what the SP is realistically worth in the current market with or without the ML as I'm not smart enough to calculate it, but I do recognise there's always the biggest wave of negativity and criticism right before something interesting gets announced.
So many on here complaining about wishing they'd never bought in and would sell out in a heartbeat, just as the lowballers, trolls and schemers want.
Grow a set, hang on and wait and see how it all plays out. But please stop carrying on like a pork chop because you took a risk and you aren;t happy with the outcome.
Something interesting to read...
Who naked short sold AVZ and could be in a spot of bother??
Problem with AVZ being multi listed, how much control does ASIC really has over short selling in whatever shape or form in US, or German markets?
Institutions exposed excessively to short selling and caught with pants down could always declare themselves bankrupt, problem solved as far as they are concerned. Let's face it, what is in a name? Who fukkin cares?
At the end of the day how do you know you officially own certain shares? I get confirmation via CHESS.
How does it work here, or overseas with shonky operators?
asic.gov.au
Who naked short sold AVZ and could be in a spot of bother??
Problem with AVZ being multi listed, how much control does ASIC really has over short selling in whatever shape or form in US, or German markets?
Institutions exposed excessively to short selling and caught with pants down could always declare themselves bankrupt, problem solved as far as they are concerned. Let's face it, what is in a name? Who fukkin cares?
At the end of the day how do you know you officially own certain shares? I get confirmation via CHESS.
How does it work here, or overseas with shonky operators?
23-131MR ASIC bans former fund manager for naked short selling | ASIC
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