AVZ Discussion 2022
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Bin59
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Wasn’t JasmineTea Michael Langford?
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MoneyBags1348
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Some shareholders have mentioned that it's not fair that some get information and others don't....
Others have mentioned why Andrew Forest get's a meeting with Lukonde (and he has met Felix at other events). Andrew Forest is a multibillionaire with a personal net worth of around $20 billion and FMG has a market capital of $64 billion.... Anyone with that much money has advantages and meetings with people in high places.
As far as information, we got it all in the Half yearly Report and Accounts on 16/03/2023. Before that we have been given information by both the company and people who say they have heard this and that by someone close to the company.
I believe Nigel has given us information based on the information that's been given to him by corrupt officials in the DRC, like Mupande. I also believe it's not easy trying to communicate with people that only speak French, which is why Marius and Christian Lukusa have had meetings with high ranking officials (including Felix), and not Nigel.
As far as information being kept confidential, that's what happens in these situations and a lot of people realise why and that is why they don't blame Nigel and the BOD, because Nigel and the BOD have been kept in the dark by corrupt officials in the DRC, and having been compromised, their best defense has been to keep a lot of information confidential.
If someone gives me information, then I keep it confidential, or I lose the confidence of whomever gave it to me.
I know this, if Jen's plays golf with Nigel I would expect he would be a source.... If he gives wrong information, I would then expect that Nigel has been given wrong information.
What I also know is that it has been mentioned that once we get the Mining License, take over offers may come from FMG, BHP and Albemarle. Whether this came from Nigel (the next door neighbour's beagle) or someone close to the company, I'm not going to say, and I don't give a shit what anyone here thinks about it.
I already saw the abuse that @Nellie17 and @The Fox got when they tried sharing information in the past and I've got to the stage I'm sick of posting information for the whinges and wankers and won't be bothered contributing much anymore as a result.
I understand and appreciate that you, @Azzler and @John25 are having a difficult time and I'm glad to see that some here still have a sense of humour, but I don't think I'll be wasting a whole lot more of my time here.
@Spikerama I know you will be doing a good job, whatever devious offensive you are planning.... I appreciate the jokes here, even when they are about me.... love those old blokes fighting, but I'm probably a better fighter now then I was at 20
@John25 if you are going to have a crack at @Winenut’s mantle tonight, don’t hold back, he’s got a pretty tight grip on it
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Winenut
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Hey Bags
Yeah I agree we got a reasonable summary in the half yearly.... I think that's a fair point
I guess my issue was more around the speed and directness that the ASX took in relation to A11 (it has been an immediate response) whereas I don't think the ASX pushed very hard or demanded disclosure from AVZ in the inital stages when things started to go weird
Just thought the juxtaposition of the two experiences was interesting to note
One where the queries, reponse and clarity has been swift....A11
And one where we really had to scratch around and pull teeth to try and get little scraps of info for a very, very long time.... AVZ
Yeah I agree we got a reasonable summary in the half yearly.... I think that's a fair point
I guess my issue was more around the speed and directness that the ASX took in relation to A11 (it has been an immediate response) whereas I don't think the ASX pushed very hard or demanded disclosure from AVZ in the inital stages when things started to go weird
Just thought the juxtaposition of the two experiences was interesting to note
One where the queries, reponse and clarity has been swift....A11
And one where we really had to scratch around and pull teeth to try and get little scraps of info for a very, very long time.... AVZ
MoneyBags1348
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What’s more important is you maintaining the prestige that goes with holding the Mantle Nuts…. I know John has got plenty of fight in him
Both worthy holders in my view
Password change and change of focus imminent…. Take care mate
John25
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No Bags its the last of the 6 night shift which will be around Monday AM …Nut has a tight grip on a LOT of thingsSome shareholders have mentioned that it's not fair that some get information and others don't....
Others have mentioned why Andrew Forest get's a meeting with Lukonde (and he has met Felix at other events). Andrew Forest is a multibillionaire with a personal net worth of around $20 billion and FMG has a market capital of $64 billion.... Anyone with that much money has advantages and meetings with people in high places.
As far as information, we got it all in the Half yearly Report and Accounts on 16/03/2023. Before that we have been given information by both the company and people who say they have heard this and that by someone close to the company.
I believe Nigel has given us information based on the information that's been given to him by corrupt officials in the DRC, like Mupande. I also believe it's not easy trying to communicate with people that only speak French, which is why Marius and Christian Lukusa have had meetings with high ranking officials (including Felix), and not Nigel.
As far as information being kept confidential, that's what happens in these situations and a lot of people realise why and that is why they don't blame Nigel and the BOD, because Nigel and the BOD have been kept in the dark by corrupt officials in the DRC, and having been compromised, their best defense has been to keep a lot of information confidential.
If someone gives me information, then I keep it confidential, or I lose the confidence of whomever gave it to me.
I know this, if Jen's plays golf with Nigel I would expect he would be a source.... If he gives wrong information, I would then expect that Nigel has been given wrong information.
What I also know is that it has been mentioned that once we get the Mining License, take over offers may come from FMG, BHP and Albemarle. Whether this came from Nigel (the next door neighbour's beagle) or someone close to the company, I'm not going to say, and I don't give a shit what anyone here thinks about it.
I already saw the abuse that @Nellie17 and @The Fox got when they tried sharing information in the past and I've got to the stage I'm sick of posting information for the whinges and wankers and won't be bothered contributing much anymore as a result.
I understand and appreciate that you, @Azzler and @John25 are having a difficult time and I'm glad to see that some here still have a sense of humour, but I don't think I'll be wasting a whole lot more of my time here.
@Spikerama I know you will be doing a good job, whatever devious offensive you are planning.... I appreciate the jokes here, even when they are about me.... love those old blokes fighting, but I'm probably a better fighter now then I was at 20
@John25 if you are going to have a crack at @Winenut’s mantle tonight, don’t hold back, he’s got a pretty tight grip on it
if you do have a break pop in every now & then …you know we all 
/respect you here buddy , if you see Titts(out there) say hi & tell him im impressed with his French 
That to me means they are hoping that felix steps in. Which is one hell of a punt. Can't see the green thing or mom capitulating. from what we've seen and read they have painted themselves well and truly into the smallest of Chinese corners. But its the drc there seems to be no such thing as embarrassment or dignity in that government. So they might just say OK boys it's yours.
Samus
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Fucking sell it to him FFS, none of those pissant ministers are going to fuck around with a major. They can only get away with it because it's AVZ.
Edit: anyway I'm not posting much because I'm going through a dark patch too. Comes and goes. BRB when I'm feeling more optimistic.
And rainbow daisy was a fucking wierdo of the highest order with tranny avatars and with cryptic lingo worse than Der Geist.
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Winenut
Go AVZ!
Hang in there Sam
Hopefully we get some better news soon
Rest up get your spirits up and come back firing on all cylinders!
And by the way ......quote of the day "rainbow daisy was a fucking wierdo of the highest order with tranny avatars and with cryptic lingo worse than Der Geist."
The Fox
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Yes.
CashKing
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I don’t think it was personally….More Beaner IMO , But that doesn’t really matter anymore.
We have had our fair share or weirdos over the years hey
GLTAH
The Fox
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Good hands? You think? What makes you say that?
The Fox
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Yes complete stock sucker, big time. Ass wipe as well.
The Fox
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Please show me that dark patch you speak of !! I feel I'm already buried in the same patch.
CashKing
Regular
Hey let’s just give a like or love for the guys / girls that are not feeling so great at the moment, none of us are over the moon about this crappy situation even the most optimistic holders..Please show me that dark patch you speak of !! I feel I'm already buried in the same patch.
We all have to make sure each of us are all doing ok first & it’s not hard to reach out to someone if they aren’t doing so well peeps.
Maybe just need a chat on private message or vent here etc.
Pressure like having money tied up for this bullshit amount of time can take its toll on the best of us…
Try stay strong and let’s hope BOD gets us through this BS…
Remember it could be much worse, imagine living in Ukraine getting bombed, or somewhere there is no running fresh water, being blind & never to even see the ocean or Sky, having no legs etc etc
Our situation sucks more than a new overpriced Dyson vacuum cleaner but we are luckier than we know even in this shitty fucked up mess…
Take care everyone & if you need a chat or whatever feel free to message me anytime
…You are a good bunch remember that
GLTAH
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