AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hemicuda]

“Staying silent “ is the only contribution that us SH’s should partake in ….We pay these Jokers their wages so they just float along unaccountable for there jobs/actions .Nothing comes out of their pockets but we line theres
Fine …stand by your BoD like a silent grinning idiot & let them meander on into almost 11months of suspension leaving us clueless on whats happening.Its amazing Twiggy can fly in & out of the DRC ,keep SH’s informed plus take a few happy snaps with Felix & Lukonde (glad i have a few FMG shares in the bottom draw) but our leadership team struggle getting in the front door
Tell me about struggling ,with well over a million shares tied up & at present working night shift (its almost 1pm) WA time at 63 i shouldnt be placed in this situation with funds tied up for almost a year now We have been placed in this situation by an incompetent Board …im still struggling to understand WHY we are in suspension …is it %of ownership /ML or as Nigel let it slip at AGM shorts attack

ML was about 6 weeks away August 2021 then literally weeks away Dec 2021 then at RS Nigel let it slip Nov the 17th ? Was the go .Our Fearless leader also at AGM admitted that communication between Board & SH’s could be a lot more transparent,there’s a job in politics for NF when he finishes this fuck fest because he has the attitude/attributes that he must be lying(his lips are moving) How is that going ??????.Plus being told its none of our business & not a conflict of interest with being in bed with Klaus
Well Chuss our latest intel …I miss Nells/Fox even Cash’s local gossip/intel at least it was something to get excited about …Feel for some of our SH’s who are really doing it tough through NO fault of their own …We were a Top ASX 200 company
Finally before i get moving at work …a huge thank you to all our posters who do a magnificent job of actually trying to dot the i’s for us so much appreciated /welcomed plus one more thing @SilentOne appreciate your feed back but take your own advise “stay silent “ & “silence is Golden” you can practice what you preach

Keeping silent & backing our BoD (not now) they have done their dash with me …hoping when /if this Shit Show is finished they may need to dip into their boosted legal fund to fight off disgruntled SH’s

im positive that this is a non negative post,,, its how it is

 

[pow4ade]

Surprised Twiggy is having another go in the DRC after being previously shafted by Tony Blair:

The former British prime minister, whose Tony Blair Institute has been helping the DRC to develop its economic strategy, has warned President Tshisekedi against allowing the Australian giant Fortescue to be in sole charge of the development of the Grand Inga mega-dams.

Clearly something has since changed at the highest level and Twiggy fancies his chances again. Maybe a new venture has scored him a meeting with Felix.

https://www.africaintelligence.com/...tescue-s-monopoly-on-grand-inga,109682056-art

 

[Doc]

Ok, CATH have stated they don’t care about ownership, they just want guaranteed supply.
So guarantee their supply, sell 9% to Twiggy and he gets us our foot in the door.
Job done
I want performance shares

 

[Xerof]

So, I’m reading on Twitter that the ‘mafia’ hunted out by Jules are now doing a disinformation job on him. This will be Felix’s true test

 

[Bray]

Australia wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Nah those aussies are dodgy cunce, we’ll make them jump thru every hoop to prove themselves and still say no hahaha suckers

China wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Fuck yeah come on in, rape and pillage our country and people we’ll give you everything you want with open arms

 

[Hemicuda]

Australia wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Nah those aussies are dodgy cunce, we’ll make them jump thru every hoop to prove themselves and still say no hahaha suckers

China wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Fuck yeah come on in, rape and pillage our country and people we’ll give you everything you want with open arms

sounds like something for the bird

 

[Bray]

This came up smorning, read it and thought shit we ain’t even gonna make it to ICC.. then reread it

 

[TheCount]

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So, I’m reading on Twitter that the ‘mafia’ hunted out by Jules are now doing a disinformation job on him. This will be Felix’s true test

Nice watch.
TC.

 

[FilthyRich2]

Any guesses on who the only selected tenderer is for pilot plant battery manufacture

Actualité | Industrie : signature prochaine de l'accord-cadre entre la RDC et la Zambie sur la production des précurseurs pour des batteries et véhicules électriques | mediacongo.net

La République démocratique du Congo et la Zambie vont signer, le lundi 27 mars prochain, à la Commission économique des Nations Unies pour...

www.mediacongo.net

The Democratic Republic of Congo and Zambia will sign, on Monday, March 27, at the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa and Afreximbank, in Kinshasa, the framework agreement for the creation of Special Economic Zones dedicated to the production of precursors for batteries and electric vehicles.

The Minister of Industry, Julien Paluku, said that this signature will take place after the two institutions have accompanied the two countries in the process of selecting the consultant who will be in charge of conducting the pre-feasibility study.

"Of the bids received from these three bidding companies, following the International Tender Notice issued, only one was selected," he said.

The signing of this framework agreement between the parties to the project is a prerequisite for the launch of this pre-feasibility study aimed at designing an implementation plan and an operational model for the creation and operation of the transboundary SEZ. It also intends to identify the main challenges to facilitate the creation and operation of the transboundary SEZ and to develop a financing plan and fund-raising strategies.

The Minister of Industry reassured that everything is being done to ensure that this ceremony is marked with all its solemnity for a better mobilization of partners and inaugurate the implementation process of the ambitious project of the value chain Batteries and Electric Vehicles (BVE) in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

 

[RHyNO]

Ease up on the 'Dog' talk and threats please.

Thanks.

Appreciate your point but really! We just have to sit around with silence from management while other mineral producers can meet the head of state to ensure investments. If this BOD is so valuable 2mill plus a year they cost us. Why are we not at the table? This attitude of be polite and be respectful is what got us here in the first place. “Don’t question Klaus”. “Don’t question Langford” meanwhile other posts discuss footy and unrelated issues but don’t get your attention. I want your attention. I want the sentiment of shareholders to reflect the frustration and anger and I want the BOD to fear for THEIR OWN PERSONAL CAPITAL. Because frankly they have defrauded us. They have claimed control where they have none, they have claimed expertise where they have none and now you’re drinking the coolaid!

 

[RHyNO]

"There are rumours flying that there are some high level meetings with Felix, MoM, AVZ, Dath/Com & some Australian Gov officials this week. Lets see what happens I guess"

Is that right?

Well do tell Chuss

We're all ears.....

Why not tell SH this why are we not met with a weekly letter. Thanks SH for your patience without going into details we are meeting with govt officials from aus this week to discuss our issues.

 

[Frank]

Australia wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Nah those aussies are dodgy cunce, we’ll make them jump thru every hoop to prove themselves and still say no hahaha suckers

China wants to do business in DRC
DRC: Fuck yeah come on in, rape and pillage our country and people we’ll give you everything you want with open arms

*Don't forget Israeli businessman, Dodgy ( DRC ) Dan

Ventora – JC Mputu case: Filimbi denounces a “shame” trial and calls for the Dan Gertler – government agreement to be revisited

Members of the Filimbi citizen movement organized a sit-in on Monday, March 20, 2023, in front of the Kinshasa/Gombe Peace Court.

The objective was to denounce what they describe as a trial of "shame" in the case between the Ventora group of Israeli businessman Dan Gertler and Congolese activist Jean-Claude Mputu of the platform "Le Congo is not for sale”.

According to Mino Bopomi, coordinator of this citizens' movement, this demonstration consisted in telling the judge not to give in to intimidation coming from the Israeli businessman who, according to him, would earn 200,000 US dollars a day thanks to the agreement signed with the government.

According to him, this trial is a way for Dan Gertler to intimidate the Congolese who want to defend the interests of the Republic.

Furthermore, Mino Bopomi called on the Congolese government to revisit the agreement reached with the Ventora group which, he said, benefits Dan Gertler to the detriment of the Congolese.

It should be noted that the Kinshasa/Gombe Peace Court, sitting in repressive matters, has referred this case to July 3rd.

mediacongo

 

[Onthefm]

Why not tell SH this why are we not met with a weekly letter. Thanks SH for your patience without going into details we are meeting with govt officials from aus this week to discuss our issues.

Probably because they have no meetings. Imo

 

[wombat74]

Appreciate your point but really! We just have to sit around with silence from management while other mineral producers can meet the head of state to ensure investments. If this BOD is so valuable 2mill plus a year they cost us. Why are we not at the table? This attitude of be polite and be respectful is what got us here in the first place. “Don’t question Klaus”. “Don’t question Langford” meanwhile other posts discuss footy and unrelated issues but don’t get your attention. I want your attention. I want the sentiment of shareholders to reflect the frustration and anger and I want the BOD to fear for THEIR OWN PERSONAL CAPITAL. Because frankly they have defrauded us. They have claimed control where they have none, they have claimed expertise where they have none and now you’re drinking the coolaid!

"Ongoing disagreements, conflicts and differences between the shareholders that have stalled the development of the Manono Project and the resulting deadlock prevents the State from benefiting from the development of PE 13359."

I'm not sure how Nigel's Sept 2024 fits into that observation by the MoM .She wouldn't be too pleased is my guess. If the MoM/Felix are serious about getting this up and running I would expect an outcome soon . If it's drags on I think she will strip us of our ownership and rights . We can then take the DRC Gov to Court and hopefully get some money in about 12 years time . Nigel is weighing all this up hopefully . If it does come to her making a Captain's Call then we will have to trade .

 

[Dazmac66]

"Ongoing disagreements, conflicts and differences between the shareholders that have stalled the development of the Manono Project and the resulting deadlock prevents the State from benefiting from the development of PE 13359."

I'm not sure how Nigel's Sept 2024 fits into that observation by the MoM .She wouldn't be too pleased is my guess. If the MoM/Felix are serious about getting this up and running I would expect an outcome soon . If it's drags on I think she will strip us of our ownership and rights . We can then take the DRC Gov to Court and hopefully get some money in about 12 years time . Nigel is weighing all this up hopefully . If it does come to her making a Captain's Call then we will have to trade .

You are hereby stripped of ownership because you refuse to be bent over and shafted by a snake-head prick from commineire and corrupt bunch of Chinese thieves! So be it!

 

[Scoota30]

Appreciate your point but really! We just have to sit around with silence from management while other mineral producers can meet the head of state to ensure investments. If this BOD is so valuable 2mill plus a year they cost us. Why are we not at the table? This attitude of be polite and be respectful is what got us here in the first place. “Don’t question Klaus”. “Don’t question Langford” meanwhile other posts discuss footy and unrelated issues but don’t get your attention. I want your attention. I want the sentiment of shareholders to reflect the frustration and anger and I want the BOD to fear for THEIR OWN PERSONAL CAPITAL. Because frankly they have defrauded us. They have claimed control where they have none, they have claimed expertise where they have none and now you’re drinking the coolaid!

Why not tell SH this why are we not met with a weekly letter. Thanks SH for your patience without going into details we are meeting with govt officials from aus this week to discuss our issues.

100% Back you here mate.
Not very hard to give some form of official update - imagine all of the retail shareholders who don't have twitter and don't get to hear about the secret behind the scenes info from the "people in the know".
Still haven't had any indication from the BoD about dropping their salaries to show some sort of empathy to the SH's. It's probably because they keep thinking "no point in dropping our salaries, this will all be sorted out next week" for the last 46 weeks...

Makes you even more angry when you consider the kind of jovial atmosphere that there was at the AGM in Nov with lots of laughs and then to disregard a large amount of online questions from uninformed shareholders. Guess they don't need to know the goings on of behind the scenes, they have the choice to sell out if they aren't happy with management, oh wait......

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Any guesses on who the only selected tenderer is for pilot plant battery manufacture

Actualité | Industrie : signature prochaine de l'accord-cadre entre la RDC et la Zambie sur la production des précurseurs pour des batteries et véhicules électriques | mediacongo.net

La République démocratique du Congo et la Zambie vont signer, le lundi 27 mars prochain, à la Commission économique des Nations Unies pour...

www.mediacongo.net

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The Democratic Republic of Congo and Zambia will sign, on Monday, March 27, at the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa and Afreximbank, in Kinshasa, the framework agreement for the creation of Special Economic Zones dedicated to the production of precursors for batteries and electric vehicles.

The Minister of Industry, Julien Paluku, said that this signature will take place after the two institutions have accompanied the two countries in the process of selecting the consultant who will be in charge of conducting the pre-feasibility study.

"Of the bids received from these three bidding companies, following the International Tender Notice issued, only one was selected," he said.

The signing of this framework agreement between the parties to the project is a prerequisite for the launch of this pre-feasibility study aimed at designing an implementation plan and an operational model for the creation and operation of the transboundary SEZ. It also intends to identify the main challenges to facilitate the creation and operation of the transboundary SEZ and to develop a financing plan and fund-raising strategies.

The Minister of Industry reassured that everything is being done to ensure that this ceremony is marked with all its solemnity for a better mobilization of partners and inaugurate the implementation process of the ambitious project of the value chain Batteries and Electric Vehicles (BVE) in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

But will CATL / CATH help AVZ resolve ownership issues & get ML for AVZ???

 

[Bray]

Wonder what sort of pressure the big dog holders are placing on the BOD, they’d have to be just as unhappy as we are

 

[Roon]

You are hereby stripped of ownership because you refuse to be bent over and shafted by a snake-head prick from commineire and corrupt bunch of Chinese thieves! So be it!

It's a pretty good game plan from the Chinese really. Not the first rodeo. I think it's pretty clear they intend to do whatever they can to hold up the development of Manono until there's no more willingness on the government's part to let it drag on any longer. And then use their corrupt subverted Ministers and other high-level figures to slide it towards Chinese interests alone, spreading bags and whispering in the ear of the top guys that AVZ don't have the experience, funding or technical capability to pull it off, but the Chinese do, and suggesting we are only holding it up as speculators in any case. With undoubted support of the Chinese government in the form of the ambassador making promises of infrastructure and military aid, alongside perhaps tying it also to support for their battery production plant plans. Could CATL/CATH be hedging their bets with a foot in each camp?

So there's a question around this next ICC hearing. Given that's its only hearing half the case (broken into two separate parts at our request), the first is to find out whether the ICC has jurisdiction because Jin Cheng don't form part of the JV. If we happen to win that and the second part (whether the Cominiere-Zijin sale was legitimate) doesn't get heard, does that mean the ownership dispute remains unresolved? Or does that essentially win both elements of the case? Because I can't see Zijin just fading into the distance should it be decided that there is no grounding for the case to be heard at the ICC.

 

[wombat74]

You are hereby stripped of ownership because you refuse to be bent over and shafted by a snake-head prick from commineire and corrupt bunch of Chinese thieves! So be it!

It's not about the Project . It's about the Share Holders . This is a Public Company . Nigel must make a judgement based on the best outcome for the Share Holder . It could be $5 . It could 80cents . It could be 40cents .It cannot be Zero . He must accept a result/option that returns money (profit or loss) back to the share holder. Now it may well be there are no options and we are totally screwed . If that's the case then it is what it is . But to think investors would rather lose all their money than do a deal with these f--k sticks is ridiculous . Plenty of punters are multiple bags in front and will see a decent return even with a pineappling . imo