AVZ Discussion 2022

[obe wan]

So what gone on here? This settlement arrangement which NGOs brought to surface has had both MMCS and Cominiere scrurring different directions into the hills. MMCS expected negotiation of settlement on 5% in Dathcom and didn't turn up to defend. When asked to provide docs associated with this 5% dealing from Cominiere they couldn't and Cominiete categorically denie the 5%..... Someone must have checked the green momba’s homework on the 15% Zijin, 10% DRC 5% MMCS minus 25% Cominiere .

We’ve seen the doc where she had MMCS 5% and 5% to DRC which is obviously incorrect as DRC get the 10% which would mean theres no 5% available for MMCS...we’d have to assume that this is the 5% MMCS point to and MMCS would have a copy of this doc somewhere, but appears DRC lawyers sought minister of justices directives and they’ve denied there's a 5%....so MMCS have asked for another break to sort their shit out.

I'm assuming, that For legal council of cominiere (DRC) to come back after seeking MoJ directive within 2 hours that the hearing was on for and categorically denied this 5%, then somethings likely washed over the green momba’s notebook and voided her decision and shit mathematics

 

[Rediah]

Is he now asking for divine intervention ?

As if Nigel’s winks weren’t bad enough now we have to decode our lawyer’s prayers to see what’s happening in the court


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I want to apologies and clarify and dont want to offend anyone, I am religious myself and I am all for prayers, but if we have hired a lawyer, I want him to do his court duties, if I wanted prayers , we would hire a priest/pundit/imam/rabbi for a lot less to bless the opening and closing sessions of the court hearings.

For my next mortgage payment, imagine if I forward our lawyer's tweet to bank as a form of payment.

I want to give Mr Christian benefit of of the doubt and assume he attended the Church service yesterday at 10am and not the court hearing hence the tweet, I can live with that, Amen.

I think I am getting too emotional with this first thing in the morning, where is the delete button, or do I have to rain delete-dance for it.

p.s. Thank you @obe wan for giving us the actual court proceeding's details.

 

[Stockinvesting]

Is he now asking for divine intervention ?

As if Nigel’s winks weren’t bad enough now we have to decode our lawyer’s prayers to see what’s happening in the court


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We were supposed to be in court Tuesday after the crooks needed "more time", I.e. they thought our legal team wouldn't turn up and it'd be all over.

We're then led to believe Tuesday will be "our day", the crooks will be embarrassed and leave with their tail between their legs.

So WTF happened yesterday?

Fucking bible quotes from our legal team!!!!!!!!!

YOUR FUCKING SHITTING ME.!!!!!!

Was there a fucking hearing or what.???????
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[wombat74]

So what gone on here? This settlement arrangement which NGOs brought to surface has had both MMCS and Cominiere scrurring different directions into the hills. MMCS expected negotiation of settlement on 5% in Dathcom and didn't turn up to defend. When asked to provide docs associated with this 5% dealing from Cominiere they couldn't and Cominiete categorically denie the 5%..... Someone must have checked the green momba’s homework on the 15% Zijin, 10% DRC 5% MMCS minus 25% Cominiere .

We’ve seen the doc where she had MMCS 5% and 5% to DRC which is obviously incorrect as DRC get the 10% which would mean theres no 5% available for MMCS...we’d have to assume that this is the 5% MMCS point to and MMCS would have a copy of this doc somewhere, but appears DRC lawyers sought minister of justices directives and they’ve denied there's a 5%....so MMCS have asked for another break to sort their shit out.

I'm assuming, that For legal council of cominiere (DRC) to come back after seeking MoJ directive within 2 hours that the hearing was on for and categorically denied this 5%, then somethings likely washed over the green momba’s notebook and voided her decision and shit mathematics

Didn't the The Green Grub say she wants that extra 5% to come from AVZ/DATH to make up the DRC 10% ?Chinese masters pulling her strings .

 

[Xerof]

So what gone on here? This settlement arrangement which NGOs brought to surface has had both MMCS and Cominiere scrurring different directions into the hills. MMCS expected negotiation of settlement on 5% in Dathcom and didn't turn up to defend. When asked to provide docs associated with this 5% dealing from Cominiere they couldn't and Cominiete categorically denie the 5%..... Someone must have checked the green momba’s homework on the 15% Zijin, 10% DRC 5% MMCS minus 25% Cominiere .

We’ve seen the doc where she had MMCS 5% and 5% to DRC which is obviously incorrect as DRC get the 10% which would mean theres no 5% available for MMCS...we’d have to assume that this is the 5% MMCS point to and MMCS would have a copy of this doc somewhere, but appears DRC lawyers sought minister of justices directives and they’ve denied there's a 5%....so MMCS have asked for another break to sort their shit out.

I'm assuming, that For legal council of cominiere (DRC) to come back after seeking MoJ directive within 2 hours that the hearing was on for and categorically denied this 5%, then somethings likely washed over the green momba’s notebook and voided her decision and shit mathematics

So, has it gone beyond the original ICC complaint that MMCS had the whole tenement taken off them without justification, and now they're actually defending the 5% given to them by the Princess illegally?

Seems to have gone up a level, having worked out the scam they were trying to complete via a - ahem - friendly settlement

Stick it to the cunts, have the 5% returned to COMINIERE, which will then be available for the 10% to the state, Z is fucked, Cong is fucked, and we're finally off to the races

Arsehole

 

[obe wan]

I want to apologies and clarify and dont want to offend anyone, I am religious myself and I am all for prayers, but if we have hired a lawyer, I want him to do his court duties, if I wanted prayers , we would hire a priest/pundit/imam/rabbi for a lot less to bless the opening and closing sessions of the court hearings.

For my next mortgage payment, imagine if I forward our lawyer's tweet to bank as a form of payment.

I want to give Mr Christian benefit of of the doubt and assume he attended the Church service yesterday at 10am and not the court hearing hence the tweet, I can live with that, Amen.

I think I am getting too emotional with this first thing in the morning, where is the delete button, or do I have to rain delete-dance for it.

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p.s. Thank you @obe wan for giving us the actual court proceeding's details.

I don't think he's was praying for AVZ; most likely received death threats. Have heard a number of times in the past that security around management who had landed in country and were there for more than a few days needed to ramp up security, as their presence became known. I understand that death threats have been made to management and these have escalated pretty quickly.

 

[wombat74]

You know my feelings towards our BoD but received a returned Email stating their frustrations on not being awarded a ML that “ the company continues to take appropriate steps to protects its rights in Manono & ultimately our SHs interest “…..”Unfortunately this has led to much frustration for all concerned following the Ministerial Decree to award the ML”

Would like this opportunity to thank Ben Cohen for his reply to my E-mails which were no very flattering towards the BoD

Everyone gets the same reply . They just change the name . They don't give a f--k about SH imo.

 

[Xerof]

Didn't the The Green Grub say she wants that extra 5% to come from AVZ/DATH to make up the DRC 10% ?Chinese masters pulling her strings .

Yeah, well she's getting the pineapple, big time

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

We were supposed to be in court Tuesday after the crooks needed "more time", I.e. they thought our legal team wouldn't turn up and it'd be all over.

We're then led to believe Tuesday will be "our day", the crooks will be embarrassed and leave with their tail between their legs.

So WTF happened yesterday?

Fucking bible quotes from our legal team!!!!!!!!!

YOUR FUCKING SHITTING ME.!!!!!!

Was there a fucking hearing or what.???????
,

I don't think he's was praying for AVZ; most likely received death threats. Have heard a number of times in the past that security around management who had landed in country and were there for more than a few days needed to ramp up security, as their presence became known. I understand that death threats have been made to management and these have escalated pretty quickly.

Personal security? Death threats? Holy shit, Batman! These pricks will stop at nothing.

 

[Carlos Danger]

We were supposed to be in court Tuesday after the crooks needed "more time", I.e. they thought our legal team wouldn't turn up and it'd be all over.

We're then led to believe Tuesday will be "our day", the crooks will be embarrassed and leave with their tail between their legs.

So WTF happened yesterday?

Fucking bible quotes from our legal team!!!!!!!!!

YOUR FUCKING SHITTING ME.!!!!!!

Was there a fucking hearing or what.???????
,

The case is MMCS v. Cominière. AVZ and our lawyers aren't directly involved.

As far as I can tell MMCS are going for the hail mary play. They are the plaintiff's but want to negotiate an out of court settlement. Which indicates they are not confident of winning the case they have brought based on facts. They are making an absolute mockery of the ICC and will be punished accordingly imo

 

[Bray]

While all death threats should be taken seriously I’d expect DRC death threats to be the equivalent of going down to Woolworths and having some eshay kid threaten to stab you for not giving him a ciggy

 

[obe wan]

So, has it gone beyond the original ICC complaint that MMCS had the whole tenement taken off them without justification, and now they're actually defending the 5% given to them by the Princess illegally?

Seems to have gone up a level, having worked out the scam they were trying to complete via a - ahem - friendly settlement

Stick it to the cunts, have the 5% returned to COMINIERE, which will then be available for the 10% to the state, Z is fucked, Cong is fucked, and we're finally off to the races

Arsehole

yes it looks that way; information through tweets isn't a lot to go off, but appears NGOs fired a spanner in MMCS / Cominiere initial plan. which has caused Cominiere to delete and abandon ship, leaving MMCS in nowhere land. So, what has MMCS requested an adjournment for?

Are they going back to Cominiere asking for docs around the 5% which they had agreed with Cominiere to 'negotiate an amicable settlement' on ...but now with DRC MoJ being in the equation and knowing MoP decision as being void, as selling mining assets needs approval from MoM , no such legal documents are available ...what does MMCS leave the collapsing office of Cominiere and return to ICC with ..... nothing i reckon ; sounds like the heat is being turned up on green momba

 

[obe wan]

While all death threats should be taken seriously I’d expect DRC death threats to be the equivalent of going down to Woolworths and having some eshay kid threaten to stab you for not giving him a ciggy

wasting our money on bullet proof vests if thats the case

 

[Carlos Danger]

While all death threats should be taken seriously I’d expect DRC death threats to be the equivalent of going down to Woolworths and having some eshay kid threaten to stab you for not giving him a ciggy

You expect wrong. If you don't think this could turn deadly then you aren't paying attention. This is why I put so much faith in Jules Alingete and Franck Fwamba. They are both putting their personal safety at risk for a company they have no vested interest in because the facts are on AVZ's side. Reminder Franck Fwamba was kidnapped back in 2012 because of a story he wrote.

In DRC, journalist briefly kidnapped in Lubumbashi - Committee to Protect Journalists

Four armed men abducted Franck Fwamba, editor of the monthly magazine Mining News, and forced him into an unmarked car at around 6 p.m. on June 6, 2012, in the southern city of Lubumbashi, according to local journalists and the press freedom group Journaliste en Danger (JED).

cpj.org

Four armed men abducted Franck Fwamba, editor of the monthly magazine Mining News, and forced him into an unmarked car at around 6 p.m. on June 6, 2012, in the southern city of Lubumbashi, according to local journalists and the press freedom group Journaliste en Danger (JED).

The assailants placed a hood on Fwamba’s head and took him to a house where he was interrogated over his personal relationships, his bank accounts, his political affiliation, the politicians with whom he was friends, and the sources of information for his publication, local journalist said. After 11 hours of interrogation, Fwamba was stripped of his personal belongings and dumped near a school in a suburb near Lubumbashi.

Sylvie Manda, Fwamba’s colleague, told CPJ that she had received several intimidating phone calls from unidentified individuals during Fwamba’s sequestration.

The motive of the kidnapping was not immediately clear. Mining News publishes reports on the activities of mining companies operating in the mineral-rich Katanga province, according to CPJ research. Fwamba had reported anonymous threats in March 2012 after the magazine published an article critical of the management of state power authority Société Nationale d’Electricité (SNEL), JED reported.

 

[Bray]

Yeah I agree it’s likely for people from DRC, Australians however whole different ball game

 

[obe wan]

Yeah I agree it’s likely for people from DRC, Australians however whole different ball game

Would you change your opinion if the Chinese were in the mix and a billion tonne resource was the incentive?

 

[Bray]

Okay so Australians from a mining company are killed.. what do you reckon happens after that from a global perspective

 

[obe wan]

nothing when your dead you're dead and if anything happened to our management in DRC, our investment is dead too ... not much worrying about global perspective after that.

 

[Bray]

Lol yeah they would be dead and it wouldn’t go down well across the world
AUS/USA already have strained relationships with China

It won’t happen, it would cause too many political dramas to kill aussies over a potentially incredibly life changing mine for the DRC locals, economy and their future as a country

 

[Carlos Danger]

Okay so Australians from a mining company are killed.. what do you reckon happens after that from a global perspective

The trick is to make it look like an accident imo

I can't see anything happening in Australia. But I'd imagine a big reason management aren't permanently in the DRC are the additional security costs needed while they are there.

Maybe it was just a coincidence that @Modo fuckhead was trying to goad AVZ shareholders the other day about Nigel going back to the DRC to 'earn his money'. Maybe it wasn't.