AVZ Discussion 2022

[ThisTimeWin]

Here is how I see it.

Nigel has stated that TH won't lift until we get ML.

There is no guarantee we will - Nigel stated that if ML not issued in 3 months will review so he obviously has doubts at some level.

So he is consigning us all to a game of double or quits - a binary outcome. We are locked out of trading now based on all the info we have and the company could detail in market announcement (stuff he mention in roadshows) and let us trade now and take our chances or sell.

If we traded now then yeah maybe 40 cents - maybe more or less however we could each make our calls and live with those decisions.

Nigel to me is acting like a parent trying to control outcomes for his children.

As mentioned - he is consigning us to huge wins if ML comes off or big losses if we don't get it.

Question? Why are we being dictated those terms?

 

[Charbella]

I have not raised this with the BOD. I would think the matter would be best adressed to the Chairman.

Is this going to help us getting our ML sooner? If not can we just park this issue for now. We need Nigel’s heart and mind 100% on secure our license , we don’t need to create any further distractions.

 

[wombat74]

Here is how I see it.

Nigel has stated that TH won't lift until we get ML.

There is no guarantee we will - Nigel stated that if ML not issued in 3 months will review so he obviously has doubts at some level.

So he is consigning us all to a game of double or quits - a binary outcome. We are locked out of trading now based on all the info we have and the company could detail in market announcement (stuff he mention in roadshows) and let us trade now and take our chances or sell.

If we traded now then yeah maybe 40 cents - maybe more or less however we could each make our calls and live with those decisions.

Nigel to me is acting like a parent trying to control outcomes for his children.

As mentioned - he is consigning us to huge wins if ML comes off or big losses if we don't get it.

Question? Why are we being dictated those terms?

There will be a plan B . Obviously Nigel's not going to talk about at the AGM. He has to display an iron will . Our enemies would have been watching . At some point we will trade again regardless imo . I don't think SH will allow the company to spend all our money fighting this until we are extinct while they get paid their fat salaries and expenses. While share holders cant access their money . It won't happen . There would be anarchy . Nigel definitely must have a plan B . The all or nothing approach is BS , and it's not his choice to make . IMO

 

[Spikerama]

 

[TDITD]

Is this going to help us getting our ML sooner? If not can we just park this issue for now. We need Nigel’s heart and mind 100% on secure our license , we don’t need to create any further distractions.

Agreed Charbella
I'll park it. They should be focussing on one thing only.
Deboss did say they were wearing big grins in the AVZ office on friday (on the bird)
Wouldn't that be nice for once putting two plus two together and getting four

 

[GuruDukun]

Do we really need to post this kind of shit? I mean really?

We know the detractors are all over social media like a rash and have already made the claim that apparently we hate the Congolese. Why are we fueling them with more ammo to use against us?

Dumbest thing on earth.

Oh my god, this!

 

[LimitedEdition63]

Agreed Charbella
I'll park it. They should be focussing on one thing only.
Deboss did say they were wearing big grins in the AVZ office on friday (on the bird)
Wouldn't that be nice for once putting two plus two together and getting four

Good to hear this is being parked. Fact is there is no conflict of interest, merely a perceived one. I have full faith in Nige. I would have thought we would be supporting Management and encouraging them to keep their focus on the prize not creating yet another issue ourselves over something that is only a perception of some. Lets get things back on track, back our Management and let them concentrate on bringing on the licence to Exploit (Mine). Noge's anwer was actually straight up with no beating around the bush at the AGM. Isnt that what we want?? Straight up ???

 

[Hemicuda]

Good to hear this is being parked. Fact is there is no conflict of interest, merely a perceived one. I have full faith in Nige. I would have thought we would be supporting Management and encouraging them to keep their focus on the prize not creating yet another issue ourselves over something that is only a perception of some. Lets get things back on track, back our Management and let them concentrate on bringing on the licence to Exploit (Mine). Noge's anwer was actually straight up with no beating around the bush at the AGM. Isnt that what we want?? Straight up ???

back on track 7 month mark of suspension, and this is one of many issues facing us. All we have been given is the, she will be right, we got this reply. FFS, i hope this is the case, but right now, i just feel like i have been bullshitted to as a shareholder.

 

[whales]

back on track 7 month mark of suspension, and this is one of many issues facing us. All we have been given is the, she will be right, we got this reply. FFS, i hope this is the case, but right now, i just feel like i have been bullshitted to as a shareholder.

Attended Melbourne Presentation and online AGM
FT may have been fed bullshit but now is fully aware of the situation surrounding CAMI./ Zijin and MoF.

It is now how he deals with it .
Either Presidential decree or indirectly through Minister of Mines that Cami operates under .The DG of Cami is one tough nut to crack but DRC cannot afford to be seen as corrupt if they truly want a battery industry .

 

[Hemicuda]

Attended Melbourne Presentation and online AGM
FT may have been fed bullshit but now is fully aware of the situation surrounding CAMI./ Zijin and MoF.

It is now how he deals with it .
Either Presidential decree or indirectly through Minister of Mines that Cami operates under .The DG of Cami is one tough nut to crack but DRC cannot afford to be seen as corrupt if they truly want a battery industry .

yes was online and missed BNE due work,

 

[Winenut]

Is this going to help us getting our ML sooner? If not can we just park this issue for now. We need Nigel’s heart and mind 100% on secure our license , we don’t need to create any further distractions.

100% what I was going to say

We don't need the BoD divided or distracted by this issue at this point in time

In my personal view there is absolutely a conflict of interest

But it's not a matter to be dealt with right now

What needs to be dealt with right now is 100% full and commited focus on securing the ML.....that is the only thing that will protect SH's wealth and provide the avenue back to trading

 

[Xerof]

Feeling a bit more confident about the next few weeks - no particular reason

Instead of 'Beautiful Day', they should have played this at the AGM

 

[Rediah]

Did anyone get any tingles about Mr Pei visiting Monono?
Just thinking about that now.
He's not yet committed, and as far as we know we're still in purgatory, so why visit Monono? That's not an easy or comfortable trip to make, just to have a squiz at things.

Is Mr Pei in DRC now for his scheduled meeting tomorrow or 24th? I am sure he is not going all the way there just to have his morning coffee.....

On a second thought, yes he can afford to have a coffee whenever he wants wherever he wants.....

 

[cruiser51]

Is Mr Pei in DRC now for his scheduled meeting tomorrow or 24th? I am sure he is not going all the way there just to have his morning coffee.....

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On a second thought, yes he can afford to have a coffee whenever he wants wherever he wants.....

I googled Mr Pei, he is 63.

When I asked if Mr Pei likes tea and scones, I got this:

Sconetime easing seniors' loneliness with delicious food, a cuppa and friendship​

Chef Martin Duncan launched Sconetime to tackle loneliness amongst the elderly.(Landline: Jennifer Nichols)

So I suppose Mr Pei loves tea with scones in Manono.

 

[Winenut]

I googled Mr Pei, he is 63.

When I asked if Mr Pei likes tea and scones, I got this:

Sconetime easing seniors' loneliness with delicious food, a cuppa and friendship​

Chef Martin Duncan launched Sconetime to tackle loneliness amongst the elderly.(Landline: Jennifer Nichols)

So I suppose Mr Pei loves tea with scones in Manono.

DRC snacking preference for the elderly??

 

[Carlos Danger]

Absolutely he would have and I'm sure the lawyer told him legally there is no conflict but for me its about perception.

Regardless of what date he bought the shares and when he quit the BoD at AJN (I think the timing of that makes it look worse for him too) I/we perceive it as a conflict of interest. The fact that we are discussing it so much shows that it is having a negative effect on shareholder sentiment which makes it a conflict of interest to shareholders.

Would you put up with this from your local MP? I don't think so and at the moment Nigel needs to be more of a politician than a geologist/speccy gold investor in cahoots with that slimy fuck Klaus.

There is a clear financial benefit to Nigel if AJN gain the northern area. His reasoning that he bought the shares before they transitioned to lithium is fair but he is leaving himself and the company open to a lot of trouble by keeping his shares if they do somehow do get that land.

He said himself at the AGM that he will be the one to lose out if AJN don't get it which is completely correct. He really should remove the potential conflict of interest but that's his and the board's decision to make. Instead it's now a binary outcome. Nigel must be very confident that AVZ will win.

 

[Bin59]

 

[oxxa23]

wa

watch some of them dig themselves a deeper hole this week... it's exactly what the last two weeks looked like...

 

[JNRB]

Good to hear this is being parked. Fact is there is no conflict of interest, merely a perceived one. I have full faith in Nige. I would have thought we would be supporting Management and encouraging them to keep their focus on the prize not creating yet another issue ourselves over something that is only a perception of some. Lets get things back on track, back our Management and let them concentrate on bringing on the licence to Exploit (Mine). Noge's anwer was actually straight up with no beating around the bush at the AGM. Isnt that what we want?? Straight up ???

Does Nigel stand to make a financial gain from actions that would be to the detriment of AVZ?

YES
Undeniably, irrefutably, yes.
THAT is a conflict of interest.

NF may say it doesn't matter, but that doesn't mean it's not there. It is not, by any definition, only imagined or perceived, it is real and tangible, and people should stop trying to suggest otherwise.

How can we beer 100% confident that Nigel is doing ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to ship ajn getting out tenements when he stands to gain more financially from letting it happen?
We can't

 

[CHB]

Does Nigel stand to make a financial gain from actions that would be to the detriment of AVZ?

How can we beer 100% confident that Nigel is doing ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to ship ajn getting out tenements when he stands to gain more financially from letting it happen?
We can't

Not quite sure he gains more financially from AJN getting it as opposed to AVZ..