AVZ Discussion 2022

[John25]

John, that effort last night is certainly worth an honourable mention, it had emotion, a good amount of vulgarity and was definitely up there!!

As @Winenut(s) knows plenty of people are vying for the mantle and it can’t be won easily.

Unfortunately your paragraph’s weren’t correctly spaced out to take the valued prize mantle but with all the sincerity I can muster, I would like you to accept this

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By the way, I’m also a huge fan of your work!!

 

[cruiser51]

I just read the Ann's. Nothing on Carriere de l'Este (or "CDL") - silence is deafening. I thought a key issue in getting ML was securing AVZ/Dathcom rights to all of RD + CDL ? Looking forward, with deep thanks, to your update @JAG . Go AVZ !!!

AVZ hopes that Dathcom will come out of this with an mining permit for RD + south CDL and an exploration permit for northern section of CDL, that is the plan.
However Nigel puts more value on RD than CDL, that is why they have been concentrating and drilling on RD.
At the end of the day RD will be mined first, so it makes sense for mine design to first analyse RD properly. (that is my opinion).

 

[Winenut]

Good morning folks.

Have to say I'm disappointed. I don't know why or how everyone suddenly changes from yesterday brandishing pitchforks and flaming torches to suddenly slipping off their seats because JAG says he's seen an image of something that tells him everything is gonna be alright.

I mean it's easy to understand how one might want to cling to any skerrick of hope after the mind blowing shitstorm of misinformation, disinformation and social media skullduggery we've had to endure but my sentiments have not changed at all.

The way I see it is this. Anything JAG might have seen and as he says, might be willing to share to a select few, is in no way evidence that there will be a favourable outcome towards the company et al its shareholders or the residents of Manono because it is immaterial. If it is not immaterial then it would come in the form of, or be included in an ASX announcement to Market. If it is material and has not been announced formally to market then, this is a big problem and needs addressing.

In the bast 6 months we've had all manner of positive signs and social media posts to make us think that something is about to happen. From the Momentum Lawyers teasing us with sneaky snippets to the arrivals of machinery on site to workers posing for class photos. Even Franck Fwamba doing God's work exposing the corruption in CAMI. And let's not forget the video of Zijin themselves admitting, on camera, they were trying to pull a fast one. This list goes on.

Where has it all left us? Nowhere. No further forward than where we were 6 months ago. Because we still have no Mining Licence. End of story.
And until we do have that ML in the form of an offical ASX announcement or "Material" information otherwise reflecting that, everything else is just immaterial noise and should be taken in the same light as we can now retrospectively see all these other seemingly positive steps for what they were.

I think I agree with a few other posters, their names escape me now but this so called "secret slideshow" is nothing but a honey pot sweetener to build into each roadshow as they trundle towards the AGM in the hope that a group of trusted, key influencers will have by then flipped the narrative and BoD can build in their next tranche of performance bonuses with minimal opposition despite still spinning wheels on the same oily bit of road to Manono.

And so far it seems to have worked. Just look at the change in mood from last night before JAG gave his cryptic update to today. I mean, I know we are all tired and hungry for some sense of normalcy and light at the end of the tunnel but I don't know... I guess I just find the whole bipolar nature of it all simply staggering.

No more I say. No more snouts in trough or hands in cookie jar or freebies until we get the ML the caterers are cooking the dirt is moving, the share price is above a nominal level. Let's get real folks. Enough is enough.

(pst... that said @JAG ... if you want to flick me those slides I'd be more than happy to take a look ).

No-one was truly brandishing pitchforks and no-one is slipping off their seats

A small amount of clarity and information appears to have been provided around some areas where there has been almost complete radio silence for 6 months

I think frustrated true LT holders are at least grateful for that

Of course everyone is still waiting for the full and material disclosures via the ASX and the ultimate return to trading

Management still under scrutinty from SH's to deliver on that

 

[Louweeza]

Jesus looks like im putting hand up as well at least its a change from putting my head up %#**…..,have to behave we have another lady Lou on board with Nellie …so boys please tone it down ..ladies in da room

Please don’t tone it down on my behalf! I’m knocking on the door of turning 40 and have seen and heard it all… no offence ever taken by me, quite the opposite, always a good laugh had here - keep it up!

 

[Bull Market]

And me @JAG !!

 

[Azzler]

Who's siting here with me refreshing waiting on Jag's PM?

 

[Winenut]

Haven't heard much from the hardcore troll brigade this morning but there's a few wannabes lurkin' around that's for sure

Some even asked to be included in Jag's update

Fucking amazing the gall of some really....

 

[Gmann76]

You got that right mate. My TSE account has exploded FFS.

Give a few minutes to put something together for everyone.

Hi jag, Hoping I'm not to later to get added to the list.

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Who's siting here with me refreshing waiting on Jag's PM?

LOL. Going to a gig last night meant I condensed 6 hrs of Refresh-key into only 1 hr at 1am . Thanks to all posters.

 

[CHB]

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Who's siting here with me refreshing waiting on Jag's PM?

Lol

Tbh I think almost every user in TSE in the AVZ threads has asked for a PM.

 

[whales]

You got that right mate. My TSE account has exploded FFS.

Give a few minutes to put something together for everyone.

Hello Jag
Please could you also include me in your update.
Also any questions you would like me to ask at the Melbourne Presentation that may have not been covered?
thank you for all your efforts much aprreciated.

 

[Samus]

AVZ hopes that Dathcom will come out of this with an mining permit for RD + south CDL and an exploration permit for northern section of CDL, that is the plan.
However Nigel puts more value on RD than CDL, that is why they have been concentrating and drilling on RD.
At the end of the day RD will be mined first, so it makes sense for mine design to first analyse RD properly. (that is my opinion).

AVZ hopes?

From the decree announcement:

"An area which was excluded under the Ministerial Decree to award the Mining Licence, will be renewed under a 5-year Exploration Licence to Dathcom, with discussions regarding the terms of the ongoing joint venture under discussion with the DRC Government"

Perhaps this subject requires further scrutiny at future shitshows?

I've still got my pitchfork as well, the pied piper of Manono can't charm us so easily. It's only results that count.

 

[cruiser51]

AVZ hopes?

From the decree announcement:

"An area which was excluded under the Ministerial Decree to award the Mining Licence, will be renewed under a 5-year Exploration Licence to Dathcom, with discussions regarding the terms of the ongoing joint venture under discussion with the DRC Government"

Perhaps this subject requires further scrutiny at future shitshows?

I've still got my pitchfork as well, the pied piper of Manono can't charm us so easily. It's only results that count.

In Africa nothing is 100% sure.

It is a dynamic continent, it is not the same as good ol Oztralia.

If you want a secure investment, put your money in a Commonwealth Bank Saver account.

 

[Nudedomas59]

You got that right mate. My TSE account has exploded FFS.

Give a few minutes to put something together for everyone.

Don't forget a long term holder even if I have been married 3 times don't hold that against me

Please add me too. Thanks ... Dave

 

[M.Bison]

Getting to the point where I am going to have to apply for a job with AVZ to get any bloody info. Most of my money is tied up with them anyways so might as well go the whole hog.

 

[cruiser51]

Getting to the point where I am going to have to apply for a job with AVZ to get any bloody info. Most of my money is tied up with them anyways so might as well go the whole hog.

Mate, you could always get in contact with Der Geist, he knows everybody and everything, apparently he even can give you Simon Cong's telephone number.

 

[Bray]

Thank you Jag for the clarity

 

[Hemicuda]

Morning All.

I have gone through my notes and the below is the best I can do to make any sense so please don’t shoot me.

Nigel spoke open and honest in my opinion and allowed some to speak during his presentation which is rare. Ben and Jan also spoke during question time and provided feedback.

Throughout the slides I was able to tick off some of the questions we had ready as they were explained throughout the course of the night and by others who asked at question time. Those who do attend the next RS's will understand when they attend if you know what I mean.

Key Points

75%

Nigel and the team are adamant that we hold 75% by law with no concerns whatsoever

ICC

• ICC set for April 2023. Whilst Zijin have pulled out of the %15 with the mines minister (re video) AVZ is waiting to receive this formally by way of letter from the Minister advising just that
• Zijin are claiming to be a holder in AVZ and therefore have rights of which they are not.
• Zijin have requested that the ICC case is kept private and not disclosed to the public. AVZ have argued with the arbitrator and it has been agreed that the findings will be made public (embarrassment for Zijin)
• It was detailed and explanatory leaving me to have no question as to the bullshit and lies of Zijin
• Upon review of evidence by ICC, it’s expected my left nut will remain intact

ML

• The delay in ML has nothing to do with any court case, boatman report or $2 Tommy report.
• All 3 favorable opinions have been signed with the wait being CAMI who is colluding with Simon Cong and 2 others. The head of CAMI will not be in the chair for much longer.
• IGF report complete and sides with AVZ
• No issue with surface rights. Approx $240-$280,000 per year
• AVZ will not trade until the ML has been issued. A date was provided however to keep the Trolls on edge and guessing I will not be saying (I will put my pitchfork away until this date)
• Marius Mihigo is on the AVZ books and has been instrumental in lobbying the Gov. A meeting with the President was to occur today to provide the President and update. The President is not happy with his Mining Dept. It is clear the President is supportive of AVZ
• Southern section is where the good powder is. Not fussed about northern section.

4th May (the force is strong)

AVZ was made aware of 3rd party interference 4th May and subsequently reported this to the ASX and SH. The interference is Zijin/Simon Cong/CAMI

AVZ Announcements

These have been bland for a reason. So as not to give anything to those who are interfering as above.

CATH

• Our relationship is extremely strong with them. Whilst it shows they will have 24% in the graphs they are not interested in that; they want product only and there is a possibility that the CATH % could drop to 9%
• CATH have written letters to the President and Mines showing full support of AVZ
• CATH are not going anywhere

Boatman

My take is that AVZ are going to go after them in a big way. So, burn baby burn! $2 Tommy, not interested in

T.O

If a T.O is presented and if the board thinks its worthy then it would be put forward to holders. Nothing has been worthy.

USA/Europe

Yes, sniffing around so once the ML is issued expect large investments

If I can think of anymore or decipher my notes I will add.

Have a good day everyone.

Thanks @JAG

 

[Bonsoir]

Morning All.

I have gone through my notes and the below is the best I can do to make any sense so please don’t shoot me.

Nigel spoke open and honest in my opinion and allowed some to speak during his presentation which is rare. Ben and Jan also spoke during question time and provided feedback.

Throughout the slides I was able to tick off some of the questions we had ready as they were explained throughout the course of the night and by others who asked at question time. Those who do attend the next RS's will understand when they attend if you know what I mean.

Key Points

75%

Nigel and the team are adamant that we hold 75% by law with no concerns whatsoever

ICC

• ICC set for April 2023. Whilst Zijin have pulled out of the %15 with the mines minister (re video) AVZ is waiting to receive this formally by way of letter from the Minister advising just that
• Zijin are claiming to be a holder in AVZ and therefore have rights of which they are not.
• Zijin have requested that the ICC case is kept private and not disclosed to the public. AVZ have argued with the arbitrator and it has been agreed that the findings will be made public (embarrassment for Zijin)
• It was detailed and explanatory leaving me to have no question as to the bullshit and lies of Zijin
• Upon review of evidence by ICC, it’s expected my left nut will remain intact

ML

• The delay in ML has nothing to do with any court case, boatman report or $2 Tommy report.
• All 3 favorable opinions have been signed with the wait being CAMI who is colluding with Simon Cong and 2 others. The head of CAMI will not be in the chair for much longer.
• IGF report complete and sides with AVZ
• No issue with surface rights. Approx $240-$280,000 per year
• AVZ will not trade until the ML has been issued. A date was provided however to keep the Trolls on edge and guessing I will not be saying (I will put my pitchfork away until this date)
• Marius Mihigo is on the AVZ books and has been instrumental in lobbying the Gov. A meeting with the President was to occur today to provide the President and update. The President is not happy with his Mining Dept. It is clear the President is supportive of AVZ
• Southern section is where the good powder is. Not fussed about northern section.

4th May (the force is strong)

AVZ was made aware of 3rd party interference 4th May and subsequently reported this to the ASX and SH. The interference is Zijin/Simon Cong/CAMI

AVZ Announcements

These have been bland for a reason. So as not to give anything to those who are interfering as above.

CATH

• Our relationship is extremely strong with them. Whilst it shows they will have 24% in the graphs they are not interested in that; they want product only and there is a possibility that the CATH % could drop to 9%
• CATH have written letters to the President and Mines showing full support of AVZ
• CATH are not going anywhere

Boatman

My take is that AVZ are going to go after them in a big way. So, burn baby burn! $2 Tommy, not interested in

T.O

If a T.O is presented and if the board thinks its worthy then it would be put forward to holders. Nothing has been worthy.

USA/Europe

Yes, sniffing around so once the ML is issued expect large investments

If I can think of anymore or decipher my notes I will add.

Have a good day everyone.

Thank you Jag, great work.

 

[ozmacca]

Morning All.

I have gone through my notes and the below is the best I can do to make any sense so please don’t shoot me.

Nigel spoke open and honest in my opinion and allowed some to speak during his presentation which is rare. Ben and Jan also spoke during question time and provided feedback.

Throughout the slides I was able to tick off some of the questions we had ready as they were explained throughout the course of the night and by others who asked at question time. Those who do attend the next RS's will understand when they attend if you know what I mean.

Key Points

75%

Nigel and the team are adamant that we hold 75% by law with no concerns whatsoever

ICC

• ICC set for April 2023. Whilst Zijin have pulled out of the %15 with the mines minister (re video) AVZ is waiting to receive this formally by way of letter from the Minister advising just that
• Zijin are claiming to be a holder in AVZ and therefore have rights of which they are not.
• Zijin have requested that the ICC case is kept private and not disclosed to the public. AVZ have argued with the arbitrator and it has been agreed that the findings will be made public (embarrassment for Zijin)
• It was detailed and explanatory leaving me to have no question as to the bullshit and lies of Zijin
• Upon review of evidence by ICC, it’s expected my left nut will remain intact

ML

• The delay in ML has nothing to do with any court case, boatman report or $2 Tommy report.
• All 3 favorable opinions have been signed with the wait being CAMI who is colluding with Simon Cong and 2 others. The head of CAMI will not be in the chair for much longer.
• IGF report complete and sides with AVZ
• No issue with surface rights. Approx $240-$280,000 per year
• AVZ will not trade until the ML has been issued. A date was provided however to keep the Trolls on edge and guessing I will not be saying (I will put my pitchfork away until this date)
• Marius Mihigo is on the AVZ books and has been instrumental in lobbying the Gov. A meeting with the President was to occur today to provide the President and update. The President is not happy with his Mining Dept. It is clear the President is supportive of AVZ
• Southern section is where the good powder is. Not fussed about northern section.

4th May (the force is strong)

AVZ was made aware of 3rd party interference 4th May and subsequently reported this to the ASX and SH. The interference is Zijin/Simon Cong/CAMI

AVZ Announcements

These have been bland for a reason. So as not to give anything to those who are interfering as above.

CATH

• Our relationship is extremely strong with them. Whilst it shows they will have 24% in the graphs they are not interested in that; they want product only and there is a possibility that the CATH % could drop to 9%
• CATH have written letters to the President and Mines showing full support of AVZ
• CATH are not going anywhere

Boatman

My take is that AVZ are going to go after them in a big way. So, burn baby burn! $2 Tommy, not interested in

T.O

If a T.O is presented and if the board thinks its worthy then it would be put forward to holders. Nothing has been worthy.

USA/Europe

Yes, sniffing around so once the ML is issued expect large investments

If I can think of anymore or decipher my notes I will add.

Have a good day everyone.

Awesome work Jag, very much appreciated mate