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PS. Sorry, no word as yet on the Northern section. Frankly, don't care that much as RD has enough Lithium for 100 years. ;)
Don't care ? How much could CDL be worth to us if we proved it up & sold it off at a later date , or looked for another partner , American/European to help us develop it at a quicker pace ? It would be worth billions to us (it's possibly a larger , higher grade deposit) . Whereas if we lost it now , I think it would put a dampener on our share price when we resume trading again . I guess I'm just being greedy ;)
In saying that , I don't think Nigel will let it get taken from us fraudulently , after being able to put Zijin in their place . It will be nice to get confirmation from AVZ via ASX though
 
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True… but I do think NF has some merit in his ‘block out the noise and soldier on’ approach. The SP will work itself out - if you’re a long term holder these muppets and their articles and tweets won’t matter. I’d prefer to uphold our integrity as AVZ holders at the end of the day. Make like Buddha and sit under a tree, block out the noise and we will all find our Nirvana soon enough…
 
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Don't care ? How much could CDL be worth to us if we proved it up & sold it off at a later date , or looked for another partner , American/European to help us develop it at a quicker pace ? It would be worth billions to us (it's possibly a larger , higher grade deposit) . Whereas if we lost it now , I think it would put a dampener on our share price when we resume trading again .
In saying that , I don't think Nigel will let it get taken from us fraudulently , after being able to put Zijin in their place . It will be nice to get confirmation from AVZ via ASX though
I don't think we will lose CDL, it just won't be part of the mining licence that is to be issued for RD.
Cheers,
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I don't think we will lose CDL, it just won't be part of the mining licence that is to be issued for RD.
Cheers,
Nells
Where is the currently ongoing drilling taking place, all RD or also CDL?
 
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Where is the currently ongoing drilling taking place, all RD or also CDL?

I believe it is just RD - drilling areas in the now dewatered pit
 
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Don't care ? How much could CDL be worth to us if we proved it up & sold it off at a later date , or looked for another partner , American/European to help us develop it at a quicker pace ? It would be worth billions to us (it's possibly a larger , higher grade deposit) . Whereas if we lost it now , I think it would put a dampener on our share price when we resume trading again . I guess I'm just being greedy ;)
In saying that , I don't think Nigel will let it get taken from us fraudulently , after being able to put Zijin in their place . It will be nice to get confirmation from AVZ via ASX though
I would not want to loose CDL, and I'd be surprised if it was taken off Dathcom and put into some tender / ballot / bribe system :oops: I agree and have said a number of times over the years its a great asset to either develop, sell or JV.

To be more specific, I don't care about CDL right now in comparison to getting the ML through on RD and getting the show on the road, not in the literal sense.

No doubt there has been much lobbying by other parties to get a foothold in the Manono area for obvious reasons. Was Zijin's capitulation something to do with CDL? I doubt it and hope not. It would seem outlandish to catch a crook and then reward them for handing back what they stole.

Now that the size of the RD lithium resource is better know, is the DRC Gov thinking we should redistribute CDL on better terms than what has occurred with Dathcom? Are they thinking there are too many eggs in one basket with AVZ / Cominiere? maybe, yet I hope not very likely.

Momentum Attorneys now deleted tweets shared some insight into the enormity of the offer by AVZ being to Mine+SEZ+PPP+Value Chains by all accounts never happened before on such a grand scale to benefit the DRC.

If that is the case, you would expect AVZ / Dathcom would have to be favourites to secure a 5 year EL extension for CDL. Well it won't be long before we know a lot more.

Cheers The Fox 🦊
 
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I would not want to loose CDL, and I'd be surprised if it was taken off Dathcom and put into some tender / ballot / bribe system :oops: I agree and have said a number of times over the years its a great asset to either develop, sell or JV.

To be more specific, I don't care about CDL right now in comparison to getting the ML through on RD and getting the show on the road, not in the literal sense.

No doubt there has been much lobbying by other parties to get a foothold in the Manono area for obvious reasons. Was Zijin's capitulation something to do with CDL? I doubt it and hope not. It would seem outlandish to catch a crook and then reward them for handing back what they stole.

Now that the size of the RD lithium resource is better know, is the DRC Gov thinking we should redistribute CDL on better terms than what has occurred with Dathcom? Are they thinking there are too many eggs in one basket with AVZ / Cominiere? maybe, yet I hope not very likely.

Momentum Attorneys now deleted tweets shared some insight into the enormity of the offer by AVZ being to Mine+SEZ+PPP+Value Chains by all accounts never happened before on such a grand scale to benefit the DRC.

If that is the case, you would expect AVZ / Dathcom would have to be favourites to secure a 5 year EL extension for CDL. Well it won't be long before we know a lot more.

Cheers The Fox 🦊
Fox, you hit on something important/interesting:

"Now that the size of the RD lithium resource is better know, is the DRC Gov thinking we should redistribute CDL on better terms than what has occurred with Dathcom? Are they thinking there are too many eggs in one basket with AVZ / Cominiere? maybe, yet I hope not very likely"

Two observations:

1) If indeed RD grows and grows in size as the sneaky drilling core pictures that have been taken off the web seem to show, then the mining of CDL, even in a 10 or 15MTpa scenario will be pushed out into the future and therefore becomes less valuable in NPV terms for AVZ. Full on focus on RD and getting mining must therefore be the most important thing to deliver value to shareholders. The news of a parcelled off CDL exploration permit will then not be that negative on our SP.

2) The DRC government is not interested in Dathcom sitting on a Li bank in the shape of CDL to be developed in 15 or 20 years time, they rightfully want to see CDL developed earlier and a new exploration permit separated from the ML of RD will be the most likely vehicle to achieve that for them. The same process is applied here in Australian O&G licence blocks when retention leases are renewed you only can hold on to the O&G resources you have discovered or otherwise proven their extend of, the rest you have to give back to the government.
 
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All good points. FYI you might want to edit the use of "CD" in your post to "RD" some may not follow the discussion.

In a few countries you loose 50% of your EL every time you request an extension. It appears AVZ is very confident of holding CDL, yet what's another curve ball at the last minute :oops:

Fingers crossed there is nothing to worry about. :)
 
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All good points. FYI you might want to edit the use of "CD" in your post to "RD" some may not follow the discussion.

In a few countries you loose 50% of your EL every time you request an extension. It appears AVZ is very confident of holding CDL, yet what's another curve ball at the last minute :oops:

Fingers crossed there is nothing to worry about. :)
Don’t give them any ideas Fox, and to keep things clear, the EL referred to here is the PE in the DRC, signed MB 😉 Whoops I mean the PR 😖…. Sorry for the constant sarcasm folks, the pressure was getting to me too, and now there’s light appearing at the end of the tunnel the pressure release valve is doing it’s own thing. There’s plenty of other related news like the Chinese now competing for infrastructure projects in and around the battery hub in Zambia as well as to do with us but I’ll just be happy when I don’t have to constantly be updating myself on all things related to AVZ. I’ve gone from complaining about unrelated post’s to
tying up these threads and being the worst offender. @Zeebot if you’re out there, mate a week’s suspension would do me the world of good please!!
 
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I would not want to loose CDL, and I'd be surprised if it was taken off Dathcom and put into some tender / ballot / bribe system :oops: I agree and have said a number of times over the years its a great asset to either develop, sell or JV.

To be more specific, I don't care about CDL right now in comparison to getting the ML through on RD and getting the show on the road, not in the literal sense.

No doubt there has been much lobbying by other parties to get a foothold in the Manono area for obvious reasons. Was Zijin's capitulation something to do with CDL? I doubt it and hope not. It would seem outlandish to catch a crook and then reward them for handing back what they stole.

Now that the size of the RD lithium resource is better know, is the DRC Gov thinking we should redistribute CDL on better terms than what has occurred with Dathcom? Are they thinking there are too many eggs in one basket with AVZ / Cominiere? maybe, yet I hope not very likely.

Momentum Attorneys now deleted tweets shared some insight into the enormity of the offer by AVZ being to Mine+SEZ+PPP+Value Chains by all accounts never happened before on such a grand scale to benefit the DRC.

If that is the case, you would expect AVZ / Dathcom would have to be favourites to secure a 5 year EL extension for CDL. Well it won't be long before we know a lot more.

Cheers The Fox 🦊
Don’t forget about 50% of CdL is included in the current granted mining license (the section which has been drilled)
 
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Macquarie doesn’t see ‘material volume from new spodumene producers until CY23’, ups lithium price target

Aussie global financial group, Macquarie, has upgraded its lithium price outlook to reflect the current tight lithium market and buoyant spot lithium prices.

The bullish report titled ‘Australian lithium miners – Upgrading lithium price outlook’ says it maintains its preference for Australian based producers with Pilbara Minerals and IGO remaining unchanged as its top two picks, offering strong production upside.

“PLS offers the greatest leverage to spodumene prices with the improved outlook driving a 40% lift in our price target to A$5.60,” the report authors write.

According to the report, domestic Chinese lithium carbonate prices continue to trade at material premiums to regional lithium carbonate prices, and the broker expects a price differential between regional prices and Chinese prices reflecting a 3-month lag, which will close in CY4.

“We do not see material volume from new spodumene producers until CY23,” the report authors write.

“We lift our peak price assumption by 2% to US$5,000/t (realised quarterly average) and upgrade annual prices by 55% for CY23 and 107%, 114% and 110% for CY24, CY25, and CY26 respectively.”

NOW READ: Pilbara Minerals lifted its gross margin by more than 1800% last year


Volkswagen will sell only EVs in Norway from 2024

Volkswagen will pull all its new combustion engine cars from the Norwegian market from 2024, the company’s local importer has said.

The Norwegian government has already put in place a target to discourage the sale of combustion engine cars altogether from 2025.

It is already a market leader in electrification of transport, and more than eight of of 1o new passenger cars sold are already battery electric there, the result of three decades of supportive policy in Norway.

The new announcement that came via Volkswagen’s importer Møller Mobility Group – which imports and sells all Volkswagen group vehicles including VW, Audi, Škoda and Cupra.

It means that Volkswagen in Norway would say goodbye to combustion engines two years earlier than demanded by the Norwegian government, as the Volkswagen cut off date for new ICE sales will be January 1, 2024.

And although Norway is already a leader in adoption of electric cars, the majority of cars still on the road – more than 80% – are still run by fossil fuels.

ID.4 electric SUV. Source: Volkswagen
Volkswagen’s ID.4 electric SUV is the brand’s most popular EV in Norway. Source: Volkswagen

Head of the Volkswagen importer Ulf Tore Hekneby says he thinks the Norwegian government targets should be stronger so that the phase out of all combustion cars on the road can be achieved sooner.

At an event with the Zero Environmental Foundation last week, Hekneby said he wants to see more ambitious government targets, such as a fixed date by which at least half of the vehicle population must be emission-free.

“We need the industry and the politicians to continue working on cutting emissions,” he said in a statement, adding he wants to see breaks for plug-in hybrids cutback also.

“A concrete step we believe the politicians should take already now is to remove the weight deduction for plug-in hybrids from 1 January.

This is yesterday’s technology, which contributes to the fact that many car buyers still opt out of the zero-emission options,” he said.

As reported by Norwegian media, Hekneby also pointed to a report by the Institute for Transport Economics, which said 50 percent of the passenger car fleet could be electrified by 2036 if all current incentives are maintained.

Policy levers in place to encourage adoption of EVs in Norway include VAT exemption on electric cars.

This is due to end on January 1, 2023 for EVs priced over 500,000 Kroner (just under $A97,000 converted).

Hekneby estimates that the goal of 50 percent e-vehicles in the fleet might not be reached until 2042 if this subsidy were to be dropped.

Currently, electric car sales account for almost 81% of Volkswagen’s new car sales in Norway – 6,900 of the 8,500 total.

Most of these are the brand’s VW ID.4 electric SUV, which follows closely behind the Tesla Model Y in terms of popularity.

A look at the overall market shows that, at least in the case of new registrations, the step towards 100 percent new BEV passenger cars is getting closer.

This year, electric cars accounted for well over 70 percent of new registrations in Norway.

As The Driven reported on Monday, Volkswagen has sold the highest number of ID.Buzz “electric Kombis” in Norway.

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Volkswagen declares ID.Buzz sale success as orders top 10,000

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The all-electric ID.Buzz advance sales are filling up quickly, with the majority of the sales in Norway, Volkswagen says.

The zero-emission version of the German carmaker’s minibus – known fondly in Australia in its original 1960’s format as a Kombi, and as a Microbus in the US – was opened up for pre-orders in June.

“10,000 orders, without the car actually being at the dealer, let alone a customer having driven it,” Krause was quoted as saying.

“That is just impressive.”

Series production of the ID.Buzz commenced in May, and there are 15,000 planned for production by the end of 2022.

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*I want one, I want a Buzz and i want it Now !!! C'Mon AVZ C'Mon give me a Buzz(y)

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Fox, you hit on something important/interesting:

"Now that the size of the RD lithium resource is better know, is the DRC Gov thinking we should redistribute CDL on better terms than what has occurred with Dathcom? Are they thinking there are too many eggs in one basket with AVZ / Cominiere? maybe, yet I hope not very likely"

Two observations:

1) If indeed RD grows and grows in size as the sneaky drilling core pictures that have been taken off the web seem to show, then the mining of CDL, even in a 10 or 15MTpa scenario will be pushed out into the future and therefore becomes less valuable in NPV terms for AVZ. Full on focus on RD and getting mining must therefore be the most important thing to deliver value to shareholders. The news of a parcelled off CDL exploration permit will then not be that negative on our SP.

2) The DRC government is not interested in Dathcom sitting on a Li bank in the shape of CDL to be developed in 15 or 20 years time, they rightfully want to see CDL developed earlier and a new exploration permit separated from the ML of RD will be the most likely vehicle to achieve that for them. The same process is applied here in Australian O&G licence blocks when retention leases are renewed you only can hold on to the O&G resources you have discovered or otherwise proven their extend of, the rest you have to give back to the government.
Why should AVZ be penalised for finding the resource CDL. It is part of the tenement and have every right to it.
 
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Why should AVZ be penalised for finding the resource CDL. It is part of the tenement and have every right to it.
Not saying they need to be punished and I hope we hold on to it all under a ML, but we mustn't be surprised or outraged if we do not get the whole PR or exploration permit acreage transferred to a PE or production/mining licence that's just how it goes in most places of the world although I've seen some mention here that DRC Mining code does not require a partial relinquishment at time of PR to PE transition.
 
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