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Can you try this one again mate please.. I'm having trouble following what you mean?
Sorry @ACinEur I must have misunderstood your statement. Therefore, do not refer the following to you.
@Pharvest because I may have misunderstood him that's how I reacted. I'll leave this one and deleted the above.

Talga has various sources for financial injections at hand as we can surely guess from the past informations.
Nevertheless, I'll proactively do the job of the HC trolls here:
it's just my thought and not advice - I'm not that presumptuous. Those who are really afraid of a catastrophic capital raise that will ruin their SP should turn inwards and sell everything to be able to live more relaxed.
For my part I remain convinced that we have come far too far and that we are facing far too exciting times. I really never thought I would write this, but in light of the latest news I mean it literally: To the Moon 🚀🌑
 
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"Debate: A new government must put the shovel in the ground

Access to raw and input goods is crucial for the competitiveness of Swedish industry. A growing shortage also poses a decisive threat to the green transition, writes Mats Kinnwall , Chief Economist, Teknikföretagen.
Published: September 15, 2022, 2:03 p.m

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, launched in her State of the Union speech, yesterday, September 14, the need for a Raw Materials Act, an action plan for the access to raw materials. The EU warns of China's dominant position and that Europe risks ending up in the same cramped situation as when it comes to oil and gas.

Access to raw and input goods is crucial for the competitiveness of Swedish industry. A growing shortage also poses a decisive threat to the green transition.

Sweden can already do a lot on its own, without having to wait for an action plan from the EU. The shortage of raw materials is redrawing the map, which means a great opportunity for Sweden.

Swedish industrial companies are in a perfect storm that risks leading to continued production losses/limitations, an acute shortage of metals and minerals and thus a delay in the green transition. When the global playing field is redrawn, companies are forced to look for new markets to secure access to crucial inputs. It is therefore time for Sweden to see the opportunity, remove the obstacles to mining and put the shovel in the ground.

The perfect storm driving increased demand for metals and minerals largely consists of an accelerating green transition with wind power, batteries and technology shifts, as well as a willingness to promote sustainable and ethical mining. Figures show that all metals and minerals will increase in demand until 2050, despite an increased focus on recycling.

Especially energy-critical metals and minerals such as cobalt, lithium and graphite are expected to increase sharply by around 300 percent. The need in Sweden is expected to increase significantly more, linked to the plans for greatly expanded production of batteries. But demand is difficult to meet due to an uncertain supply situation caused by war, rampant prices and a broad democratic recession.

Today, the EU is heavily dependent on imports as a large part of the production of critical deposits in the form of metals and minerals takes place outside the EU, not infrequently in unstable and undemocratic countries. Something that has proven to be increasingly unsustainable for Swedish industrial companies. The trend is clear. More companies are reviewing their supply chains to increase resilience. Figures from Business Sweden show that companies are already buying less and less from Chinese sub-suppliers and are increasing their purchases in Europe, and more people are asking more specifically for raw materials from Sweden.

One may resent the fact that globalization is partially reversed with reduced world trade and global growth as a result. At the same time, we have to adapt to the realities, a situation that economists usually call "second best".

In the wake of the changes, a clear window of opportunity opens for Sweden. Half of the metals and minerals that the EU has identified as critical are found in the rich Swedish bedrock. The potential in becoming a country that can in a sustainable, climate-smart and safe way secure access to important inputs and create a new important market for Sweden is obvious. The recent increased political consensus regarding the need for mining in Sweden gives some hope that Sweden can quickly come forward and take its place when the map is redrawn. But if it is to succeed, the obstacles that stand in the way of starting mining in Sweden need to be removed. And that requires an urgent decision by the government that takes office now after the election. There is no doubt that other democratic countries with similar conditions, such as Canada and Australia,

In addition, it is likely that the companies within the Technology Companies' industries are primarily interested in obtaining safe access to cost-effective raw materials and inputs, the country of origin is probably of secondary importance. If we do not fix good conditions for raw material expansion in Sweden, the industrial companies will therefore turn to foreign suppliers.

The issue of mining metals and minerals naturally contains many conflicts of interest and it is important that all steps in the transition are carried out in a respectful manner. But at the same time, Sweden must now make a choice and it should be to carry out the reforms that are requested and remove the obstacles that stop us from putting the shovel in the ground.

It is good that the EU is addressing the issue, but politics already needs to show action and send an important signal about Sweden's way forward in the vacuum that now arises when the production of important raw materials is regionalized and concentrated on the world map. If there are no reforms, it will be impossible for Sweden to compete on equal terms with other countries that aspire to meet industrial companies' needs for raw materials and enable the shift to a green and sustainable society.

Mats Kinnwall , chief economist, Teknikföretagen"
https://www.di.se/debatt/debatt-en-ny-regering-maste-satta-spaden-i-marken/

I do not believe that the protagonists of deindustrialisation will prevail. In our country, they have come a long way creeping and quietly, but people are waking up. At the latest when they look at their bank accounts or read about the next natural disaster. All this can only be solved with industry and not by preventing and eliminating it.



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"The expert on the battery boom: "Public money will burn up"​

Battery investments have rained down on Sweden this year. And there is enormous potential for what the industry can mean for the country, say experts Di spoke to. But they believe the investments may have come too late.
Updated: September 6, 2022, 11:40 amPublished: September 6, 2022, 11:37 am

Northvolt brings in 11 billion: "A way for us to take a bigger part of the pie". Första APfonden's CEO Kristin Magnusson Bernard explains why the fund supports Northvolt, and gives her view on the capital raising market
Hans Eric Melin criticizes the European car industry for being late with electrification investments.

Hans Eric Melin criticizes the European car industry for being late with electrification investments.
Northvolt was the first with its battery factory in Skellefteå, which was announced in 2017. Five years later, the venture has gained company. Just Northvolt together with Volvo Cars this year announced an establishment in Gothenburg, Scania has decided to invest billions in Södertälje and the latest announcement was that the Volvo group wants to start a battery factory in Mariestad. In addition, Norwegian Freyr has announced plans to build a facility in Svenljunga.

As the new battery industry is expected to lead to tens of thousands of new jobs in the country, the government now wants to appoint a battery coordinator in the Ministry of Economy. Sweden is a future "major power in battery manufacturing", proclaimed Minister of Industry Karl-Petter Thorwaldsson this summer.
"What Northvolt has started is extremely important. The company saw early on what electrification would mean and the importance of having a European production of batteries. They got the EU on board and lit a spark that spread across the continent," says Hans Eric Melin, specialist in energy storage and founder of the consulting firm Circular Energy Storage.

That there has been such a boom in Sweden is about the availability of renewable electricity and that we have a strong automotive industry that needs to change, says Hans Eric Melin. Samu Slotte, head of sustainable financing at Danske Bank , also points out the availability of the necessary minerals in batteries and refers to Finland and Norway, which have the same conditions and see the same development.
"There are many established companies along the entire value chain, from raw materials to recycling. And there are many who will get a boost from the growth of this industry. If you then get to Nordic clusters, it also creates a positive spiral with knowledge sharing, resources and better access to skilled labor", says Samu Slotte.
But there is concern that development has started too late
"China has invested heavily in battery manufacturing and has a clear leading position globally. The question is how the Nordic countries can cooperate and whether it is possible to take any market share from them. Asia, with China and South Korea, is strongly dominating at the moment," says Samu Slotte.

Hans Eric Melin says that there is a strong demand for batteries and many incentives to have a European production. But there are also a lot of obstacles. He mentions, among other things, lack of skills, high costs and difficulties and reluctance to mine the minerals in Sweden.
"Have we acquired the right skills quickly enough and do we have the opportunity to manufacture batteries at as low a cost as Chinese factories? And do we get hold of the battery materials? If it takes ten years or more to get permission to produce lithium or graphite, then we are not serious about the investments," says Hans Eric Melin.
Hans Eric Melin believes that Asia will continue to be dominant in the battery market. Among the European projects, he believes that Northvolt has good conditions, but that many of the similar projects that have been started around Europe risk not being completed.

"I don't see it in Sweden, but on a European level and to some extent also in North America, I think we have a large number of Power Point projects that will not go further than where they are today. They have made a couple of carbon copies of Northvolt but completely without substance," he says and continues:
"As soon as someone wants to start a battery factory, it is considered serious and the politicians line up to get more factories built. There, I think we have a problem that a lot of public money will burn up.""
https://www.di.se/hallbart-naringsliv/experten-om-batteriboom-offentliga-pengar-kommer-brinna-upp/

Nothing new. We know it's urgent 🔥 On the 20th we will have another opportunity to underline this. I hope that some politicians will be there and explain what is important to slow down climate change meet Green Deal targets and not to simply wipe the problem out of sight to China. I'm just going to take a guess and bet that the absolute majority will prevail over a stubborn minority with brains.
 
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To the Moon Part II

I had wondered a bit why MT almost exclusively referred to our anodes. I didn't really expect it to be about that and more about next graphene thing. But probably here we are about space secondary batteries!
If you follow the link in the article, this will come up:

"Arose Connecting Industry On A Journey To Space.
November 23, 2021
A new opportunity has been created for companies to join the Australian mission to space.

As the first off the launch-pad, Australian Remote Operations for Space and Earth (AROSE) welcomes mining technology leader IMDEX as an industry sponsor on its mission to design, build and remotely operate an Australian rover on the Moon.

Recently the Federal Government announced up to $50 million will be made available under the Moon to Mars Initiative Trailblazer program for an industry-led consortium of Australian businesses and research institutions to develop a Lunar Service Rover.

The semi-autonomous rover will collect lunar soil that contains oxides, and using separate equipment, NASA will aim to extract oxygen from the soil. This is a key step towards establishing a sustainable human presence on the Moon and supporting future missions to Mars.

In June of this year, AROSE received a funding boost through the Federal Government’s Moon to Mars Initiative Demonstrator Feasibility grants, administered by the Australian Space Agency, for Stage 1 of the mission. Stage 1 is to develop the pilot concept for a remotely operated Lunar Service Rover.

Now AROSE is connecting industry to be part of this unique journey to Space.

IMDEX has joined AROSE as a sponsor for Stage 1 of the Mission. IMDEX develops cloud-connected sensors and drilling optimisation products to improve the process of identifying and extracting mineral resources.

AROSE Chief Executive Officer Leanne Cunnold said it was companies such as IMDEX that further strengthened Australia’s position on the global space platform by enabling the transfer of Australia’s cutting-edge robotics technology and systems for remote operations.

“The learnings from developing for the harshest of all environments, space, where you need to make things lighter, smaller, more power efficient can then help optimise operations on Earth” Ms Cunnold said.

“It also encourages other companies to be part of the nation’s Space future. The Space sector is expected to provide thousands of jobs and inject billions of dollars into our national economy.

“AROSE is connecting Australian industry with us on our journey to the Moon. I am delighted IMDEX has joined us as a sponsor.”

IMDEX Chief Executive Officer Paul House said the space industry was a natural extension of the expertise in automation and remote area operations that are the hallmarks of the Australian mining sector.

“IMDEX is at the forefront of finding solutions for the mining sector; using that knowledge to provide answers for the space industry will be both rewarding and exhilarating,” Mr House said."
https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au/news/arose-connecting-industry-on-a-journey-to-space/



I immediately asked myself how batteries actually work in space. So I went to Wiki and found out that there are two types of batteries. The one we are concerned with is the secondary battery, as it is intended for recharging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batteries_in_space

Of course, I couldn't find any graphite in the nickel-hydrogen batteries because hydrogen seems to do the job here. But Semmel can pick this apart much better than I can and correct me if necessary. But the Wiki article is not quite up to date. Research has developed further which is explained in detail in this article by the ESA. It is a bit more detailed so here so here is the link and some info.:

Secondary Lithium Batteries for Spacecraft

https://www.esa.int/esapub/bulletin/bullet90/b90dudle.htm

So, Nickel-hydrogen is the past old generation and the new one is called lithium-carbon battery.
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(courtesy of AEA Technology) => Here, the link probably leads through our Cambridge branch.)

Here is the summary:
"It is an exciting time in the space battery field. Lithium- carbon promises to revolutionise space batteries, providing a much bigger step up in performance than that which was achieved in the switch from nickel-cadmium to nickel-hydrogen. GEO spacecraft using this technology will have a significant competitive edge over those using nickel-hydrogen. It should also provide a considerable cost/performance advantage for small satellites, as well as improve mission capability for certain scientific spacecraft. In the interests of maintaining European competitiveness, it is essential that the greatest possible effort be made to qualify this technology for space as quickly as possible."

My summary: It's going to the moon with graphite from Vittangi.
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"STUDY CONFIRMS AUSTRALIA CAN DELIVER LUNAR SERVICES ROVER FOR NASA

An AROSE study commissioned by the Australian Space Agency has confirmed for the first time that there is sufficient design and advanced manufacturing capability within Australia to build, test and operate a Lunar Services Rover in support of NASA’s return mission to the Moon.

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Study Lead, Dr Sarah Cannard, from AROSE member Nova Systems, said the study identified more than 60 companies across Australia with the combined technology, services, facilities and workforce skills ‘available, or under development’, to design, manufacture, test and operate a Lunar Services Rover for NASA’s Artemis mission.
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https://www.arose.org.au/news/study-confirms-australia-can-deliver-lunar-services-rover-for-nasa/



"Australian Moon rover one step closer with AROSE​

22 Jun2021
An Australian rover for use on the Moon is one step closer to reality after the Australian Remote Operations for Space and Earth (AROSE) consortium received a funding boost from the federal government’s Moon to Mars Initiative Demonstrator Feasibility grants, administered through the Australian Space Agency.
AROSE will use the funding to develop a pilot concept for a remotely operated Construction Rover that could be used by NASA as part of its Artemis Mission to return to the Moon by 2024 and establish a sustained and safe presence there."
https://www.arose.org.au/news/australian-moon-rover-one-step-closer-with-arose/



So for me, I love space and don't dismiss it as a crazy waste of money. I am now looking forward to probably going into space with two of my favourite companies. I don't know about you guys. I couldn't care less about the commercial effect. You know what technology is used for space missions. So if I were MT, I would be mighty proud to have been chosen.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all works out and a small smart autonomous rover inspired by Akida will go up there many times faster than has ever been possible before, and empowered by Talnode-Space.

I find that extremely exciting 🚀 🌑

Ok, lets unravel that from a technology side.

First stop: nickel hydrogen for space applications?

Think of a satellite withe solar panels in low earth orbit. The satellite orbits earth every 90 minutes and unless its in a special sun-synchronous orbit where it always stays at the terminator between night and day, and thus is always in sunlight, it will experience a charge (day) and discharge (night) cycle every 90 minutes. Nickel hydrogen batteries are essencially fuel cells where the water, produced by the fuel cell is electrolysed back to hydrogen and oxygen when charging. This type of battery is very inefficient in terms of mass and volume, but can last up to 20.000 cycles. Something that is clearly necessary if the satellite is going through a cycle every 90 minutes. At 20k cycles, that is a life of the cell of about 3.5 years.


Second Stop: the Mun Moon.

The moon rotates once every month (duhh), since it faces the earth always with the same side and rotates once about a month around the earth. Thats where the Month has its name from, the Moon. So that means, a day lasts for 2 weeks, and more importantly a night also lasts for 2 weeks. For this, you obviously dont need 20k charge discharge cycles of your battery. So Nickel Hydrogen is not really ideal here. Also, I just said the night lasts 2 weeks. And its fucking cold at night on the moon. -120C or thereabouts. You want your electronics survive the night? Good luck. Better have some way to keep it warm. So better have a big battery with lots of charge to keep the rover on the moon warm enough that electronics and the battery doesnt freeze to death. Ohh and also have some way to cool it during the day as it gets +120C easily as well ;-). The moon is damn hard to survive for any mashine. So that means, for the night, you need very long lasting batteries with lots of capacity. Better use something like lithium ion. Talgas batteries might be better suited than other batteries due to the charge retention at cold climates. As they have advertised in the past. At least, that could be a reason why they have a partnership.


Third Stop: The polar regions of the Moon.

All this talk about day and night cycle goes out the window because the NASA Artemis program that is referenced here goes to the polar region of the Moon, where there is eternal sunlight, but at a very steep angle. I dont know how the temperature environment is there. However, its probably much more benign than anywhere else. Though, if you have a rover that can only stay in the shade of some rock or in a crater for a few minutes at a time, that is obvipously not very useful. A large battery with lots of charge for heating and activties in the long shadows on the pole (think eternal sunrise and the shadows that go with it) might still be a much better option than Nickel Hydrogen.
 
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Ok, lets unravel that from a technology side.

First stop: nickel hydrogen for space applications?

Think of a satellite withe solar panels in low earth orbit. The satellite orbits earth every 90 minutes and unless its in a special sun-synchronous orbit where it always stays at the terminator between night and day, and thus is always in sunlight, it will experience a charge (day) and discharge (night) cycle every 90 minutes. Nickel hydrogen batteries are essencially fuel cells where the water, produced by the fuel cell is electrolysed back to hydrogen and oxygen when charging. This type of battery is very inefficient in terms of mass and volume, but can last up to 20.000 cycles. Something that is clearly necessary if the satellite is going through a cycle every 90 minutes. At 20k cycles, that is a life of the cell of about 3.5 years.


Second Stop: the Mun Moon.

The moon rotates once every month (duhh), since it faces the earth always with the same side and rotates once about a month around the earth. Thats where the Month has its name from, the Moon. So that means, a day lasts for 2 weeks, and more importantly a night also lasts for 2 weeks. For this, you obviously dont need 20k charge discharge cycles of your battery. So Nickel Hydrogen is not really ideal here. Also, I just said the night lasts 2 weeks. And its fucking cold at night on the moon. -120C or thereabouts. You want your electronics survive the night? Good luck. Better have some way to keep it warm. So better have a big battery with lots of charge to keep the rover on the moon warm enough that electronics and the battery doesnt freeze to death. Ohh and also have some way to cool it during the day as it gets +120C easily as well ;-). The moon is damn hard to survive for any mashine. So that means, for the night, you need very long lasting batteries with lots of capacity. Better use something like lithium ion. Talgas batteries might be better suited than other batteries due to the charge retention at cold climates. As they have advertised in the past. At least, that could be a reason why they have a partnership.


Third Stop: The polar regions of the Moon.

All this talk about day and night cycle goes out the window because the NASA Artemis program that is referenced here goes to the polar region of the Moon, where there is eternal sunlight, but at a very steep angle. I dont know how the temperature environment is there. However, its probably much more benign than anywhere else. Though, if you have a rover that can only stay in the shade of some rock or in a crater for a few minutes at a time, that is obvipously not very useful. A large battery with lots of charge for heating and activties in the long shadows on the pole (think eternal sunrise and the shadows that go with it) might still be a much better option than Nickel Hydrogen.
That is why, according to the ESA, nickel-hydrogen is to be replaced by lithium-carbon. If I understand it correctly Talga is supposed to be involved in the development of this.
 
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That is why, according to the ESA, nickel-hydrogen is to be replaced by lithium-carbon. If I understand it correctly Talga is supposed to be involved in the development of this.

Lithium Carbon is just a fancy name for normal lithium ion batteries. Lithium Ion was originally invented without any anode material, i.e. lithium plating on the anode side of the battery. This is today regarded as the holy grail for solid state batteries because it doesnt easily work. Which is why "lithium carbon" batteries were invented that use carbon (i.e. graphite) as anode. ESA is in a typical 30 years backwards talk is naming lithium carbon as the technology that allows lithium ion batteries in space applications. Its nothing special from our todays perspective.

As to why Talga would be involved I dont know. Could have been any other manufacturer. Maybe the EVA plant is able to deliver tailor made batteries for space applications, something other companies cannot easily do. But really, I dont know.
 
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Lithium Carbon is just a fancy name for normal lithium ion batteries. Lithium Ion was originally invented without any cathode material, i.e. lithium plating on the anode side of the battery. This is today regarded as the holy grail for solid state batteries because it doesnt easily work. Which is why "lithium carbon" batteries were invented that use carbon (i.e. graphite) as anode. ESA is in a typical 30 years backwards talk is naming lithium carbon as the technology that allows lithium ion batteries in space applications. Its nothing special from our todays perspective.

As to why Talga would be involved I dont know. Could have been any other manufacturer. Maybe the EVA plant is able to deliver tailor made batteries for space applications, something other companies cannot easily do. But really, I dont know.
the EVA plant is able to deliver tailor made batteries for space applications :cool:😉

If so, that's good too. The main thing for me is that Vittangi graphite is driving around on the moon. And they should call it Talnode-Space for marketing reasons. I would find that cool :cool:🛸
 
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EV Manufacturers Must Invest In Battery Raw Materials In Order To Make The Energy Transition Successful, Matt Fernley Urges Stakeholders​

By IBT Contributor
09/22/22 AT 3:03 AM

When the entire world is preparing for an energy transition, Matt Fernley, an experienced equity analyst and Managing Editor of Battery Materials Review (BMR) is worried that underinvestment in the mining industry could derail the energy transition. Recent reports reveal that the lithium shortage has already caused uncertainty in the EV manufacturing industry due to its heavy dependency on the availability of lithium. Since the energy transition is hugely material intensive, according to him, we have to take the handcuffs off the mining industry to make the much-awaited energy transition successful.

Matt Fernley was a mining analyst for almost twenty years. His passion for electric vehicles led him to conduct a deep analysis of the industry. His findings regarding the potential uncertainties of raw material availability led him to start his own business, looking at the raw material side of the battery space. His determination to spread the message among the various stakeholders across the industry resulted in the establishment of his international battery materials market analysis platform, Battery Materials Review (BMR).

The studies carried out by Matt revealed that there is going to be a huge demand-supply mismatch with respect to the raw materials for electric vehicle batteries. As a result, electric vehicle prices are going to go up, which could make them less accessible and affordable for people at large. Reports indicate that the price of electric vehicle batteries could increase by 22% in the very near future due to the shortage of raw materials. Matt identifies a number of issues in the sector. One major problem is the lack of expert analysts who can explain the issues logically to the stakeholders. As a result, according to Matt, auto companies have struggled to do a proper bottom-up analysis of the sector. Therefore, they didn't realize that there was going to be such a shortage of raw materials for EV batteries. He highlights that the lithium price has gone up eight times over the past eighteen months. This hugely impacts the profitability of battery manufacturers and electric vehicle makers to such an extent that it is potentially making the production of electric vehicles unprofitable.

Matt Fernley is of the opinion that, in order to overcome this challenge, "EV makers need to invest in the mining industry. Since there has been very little effort from the EV companies in this regard, we are in a situation where there is a structural shortage of battery raw materials in the market". Matt further warns that this shortage will likely last for at least three to five years because that's how long, on average, it takes to build new mines. What worries Matt the most is the fact that, even with the structural shortage of raw materials in the market, the mining sector is struggling to attract enough investment as compared to the huge volume of investments happening in the EV manufacturing industry.

Matt identifies several reasons behind this divergence including three distinct issues. The primary reason is the reluctance of the automakers to invest directly in a sector that is not their area of expertise. The second reason, according to him, is the newly adopted ESG guidelines by authorities across the world, including the European Union and the United States, discouraging generalist investors from investing in primary extractive industries. He reiterates that without enough investments in the mining industry we won't be able to achieve a successful clean energy transition in the near future.

The third issue, he highlights, is the administrative red-tapism from authorities in developed markets, like the EU and the US, which means it can take up to three times longer to build a project than in mining-friendly jurisdictions. Apart from these critical issues, the mining sector suffers from an innate incapacity to raise funds when compared to the auto sector and the battery manufacturing industry. "The reluctance to invest in the extractive industry now will cost the EV industry just under 200 billion dollars more in raw material costs alone by 2025. It is a huge cost as far as the EV sector is concerned. They could solve the issue themselves by deploying a little bit of capital into the upstream part of the industry", Matt Fernley added.

Based on his analysis, Matt believes that explaining the current situation, regarding the raw material shortage and investment crisis, to the shareholders of EV manufacturing companies will help a great deal. He says that shareholders of EV manufacturing companies should understand that the businesses they are providing capital for may not be as profitable as they are expecting.

In his view, green politicians across the world are giving ambiguous messages regarding clean energy. He believes that if their focus is to eliminate or reduce carbon emissions, then they have to commit to investment in extractive industries and metals. "If we want to lower our carbon footprint, then it is important that we are able to invest in extractive industries", states Matt Fernley.

Matt Fernley is an expert analyst with experience of more than 20 years in the mining and EV battery industry. He is the founder and Managing Editor of 'Battery Materials Review' (BMR), a research and analysis initiative committed to providing miners, battery manufacturers, investors and all other stakeholders in the industry with research-driven information and expert guidance.

 
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In Nunasvaara outside Vittangi, Talga AB wants to start mining graphite as soon as possible to keep up with the electrical transition. See the area and hear the mining company's chairman Per-Erik Lindvall in the clip. Photo: Hans Sternlund/SVT
Here, the mining company wants to mine graphite outside Vittangi - expects a 25-year lifespan
Updated September 21, 2022 Published September 21, 2022

In Nunasvaara outside Vittangi, Kiruna municipality, there is, according to Talga AB, one of the world's best graphite deposits. The mining company wants to get permission as soon as possible to convert the forest landscape into an open pit mine with an associated industrial area to keep up with the major electrical conversion of, among other things, the car industry.

- The time aspect is very important, says chairman Per-Erik Lindvall.

During Tuesday, the Land and Environmental Court was on site to look at the proposed area where a first graphite mine will be located. The actual court proceedings are expected to begin in early 2023.

During the nearly ten years that Talga has investigated the area between the Torne and Vittangi rivers, the picture has become increasingly clear. According to the company, here is one of the world's best graphite deposits.
Can be followed by more projects

Now the company is applying for an environmental permit for the Nunasvaara south project - which may be followed by more projects.

The company's chairman Per-Erik Lindvall is careful that he can only talk about what is relevant now and which is the subject of the Land and Environmental Court's review. He does not want to speculate on the size of a future mining area that includes all the exploration permits around Nunasvaara and Niska.

He rather talks about the importance that graphite is expected to have in the electrical transition and that it is important to quickly get all the conditions in place to be able to participate in the race.

- The whole changeover is now underway, and with increasing speed. Then it is important to be part of those schedules if you want to have an important role in the future.

But in the area of the proposed graphite mine there are also several red-listed species. This is shown by an inventory made by the Nature Conservancy.
Must prove the value of the deposit

Talga AB has applied for a processing concession where it is necessary to prove that the deposit is worth mining from an economic perspective, as well as for an environmental permit where environmental considerations must be taken into account. But that condition also includes the socioeconomic aspects.

Per-Erik Lindvall believes that the latter should weigh more heavily in the trial.

- Things have been thin with that thing historically, but that is starting to change, he says.
 
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This Tweet has a bit more context now

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This Tweet has a bit more context now

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Wow! You are absolutely right! Do you remember how we also talked about the breadcrumb and the picture of this mountain road? You can see how long it all takes.
 
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I must agree with Vigdorian - that was absolutely awful analysis of Talga and 6 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. 😜

You’re the best poster on the Talga thread with all your amazing research, but even the best of us can have a shocker occasionally!
 
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I must agree with Vigdorian - that was absolutely awful analysis of Talga and 6 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. 😜

You’re the best poster on the Talga thread with all your amazing research, but even the best of us can have a shocker occasionally!
Ok, I admit I posted it because of the opening image. I only skipped through it for a few seconds. When I saw the slides I decided not to watch it and safe my time 🤭 But the picture is beautiful!

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Thank you that is too much of an honor and I blush. I just wanted to know at that time why the SP does not reflect what was expected. My work is gradually done and I can hand over to you so that you put the numbers, the project and ecosystem in perspective. And I continue to watch locally what is going on.
 
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Ok ok I'll delete it before anyone else loses time! 😅
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Done. Here at TSE we are critical. I post something once without checking it just because I like the picture and then I get a reaction like this. You are spoiled. 🤣
 
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Ok ok I'll delete it before anyone else loses time! 😅
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Done. Here at TSE we are critical. I post something once without checking it just because I like the picture and then I get a reaction like this. You are spoiled. 🤣
Haha - yes, you’ve been badly beaten up by that 1 post!

But, just like Rocky Balboa, we know you will come back from this setback bigger and stronger than before!!

Veil Gluck!

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