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There is more to the process than the furnace. They might have just that furnace size and thats it. But I dont know what other steps are involved as well. Must be many. Anyway, I am not claiming absolute knowledge on the matter, but we have no definitive information in any announcement that can be cited. So going with what we have. The discussion comes up every few weeks and its always a hassle to answer it definitely. I dont want to fall into the trap of false hope that the EVA somehow miraculously covers the running cost of Talga. We would have seen something in the balance sheet of the last quarter if that were the case. We will see it in the next quarterly report for sure if there was something. If the QR doesnt show any proceeds from the EVA plant, its inconsequential for sure.
 
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There is more to the process than the furnace. They might have just that furnace size and thats it. But I dont know what other steps are involved as well. Must be many. Anyway, I am not claiming absolute knowledge on the matter, but we have no definitive information in any announcement that can be cited. So going with what we have. The discussion comes up every few weeks and its always a hassle to answer it definitely. I dont want to fall into the trap of false hope that the EVA somehow miraculously covers the running cost of Talga. We would have seen something in the balance sheet of the last quarter if that were the case. We will see it in the next quarterly report for sure if there was something. If the QR doesnt show any proceeds from the EVA plant, its inconsequential for sure.
I see it the same way. It is better not to expect it and be surprised than to include something that is not there.
As far as the plant is concerned I already assume that the furnace sets the pace, i.e. the conveyor belt through it. At least I can imagine it very well.
I remain with my attitude that it is not important to me whether they will earn significantly with the EVA. Besides, fresh material is only now in the pre-processing stage. If pre-series products are made from it this would have to be paid for as we are then already in an agreement. And no one has anything to give away. It is also normal that prototypes in the pre-series in the automotive are paid higher than later in series. I think it's less like luring them in with free candy. Talga AB should be past that by now.
Just wait patiently and watch. In any case the new job points in the right direction.
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some nice progress photos



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Where did you find these images? Incredible that it is just under the surface soil.

Found them on the Instagram account of the contractor doing the work. Yes I’m sad enough to be following the insta accounts of northern Swedish groundworks contractors :)

I’m no expert but I believe those large black mats are blasting mats placed over an area before setting off explosives. Maybe someone with a mining background can confirm?
 
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Looks like they’ve been deleted now 👀

Maybe didn’t have Talga’s permission to share them? Lucky I got some screenshots
 
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Found them on the Instagram account of the contractor doing the work. Yes I’m sad enough to be following the insta accounts of northern Swedish groundworks contractors :)

I’m no expert but I believe those large black mats are blasting mats placed over an area before setting off explosives. Maybe someone with a mining background can confirm?
Thank you very much! Now I finally have an overview of the area, I'm thrilled. You have correctly concluded that it will be blown up. Here at TSE are the photos of the boreholes with the blasting cords and many other infos about that. Thank you again. Top find for me!
Even the fence can be seen. No reindeer can fall in there.
 
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How compact it is!
 

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Awesome find. Thank You…. Like the detective work…
 
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Found them on the Instagram account of the contractor doing the work. Yes I’m sad enough to be following the insta accounts of northern Swedish groundworks contractors :)

I’m no expert but I believe those large black mats are blasting mats placed over an area before setting off explosives. Maybe someone with a mining background can confirm?
Yep. They do look like blast mats. Used to control fly rock from going everywhere damaging nearby equipment, buildings, sensitive areas.
Nice find!!👍👍
 
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Welcome to Germany, Mark :) if you happen to pass by Berlin again, say hi please :)



It's news to me that the German facility is gearing towards Talnode-Si, i thought that was a UK project. Apparently this is expanding! Very happy to see!
 
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Found them on the Instagram account of the contractor doing the work. Yes I’m sad enough to be following the insta accounts of northern Swedish groundworks contractors :)

I’m no expert but I believe those large black mats are blasting mats placed over an area before setting off explosives. Maybe someone with a mining background can confirm?
That's exactly what they are mate.
 
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Welcome to Germany, Mark :) if you happen to pass by Berlin again, say hi please :)



It's news to me that the German facility is gearing towards Talnode-Si, i thought that was a UK project. Apparently this is expanding! Very happy to see!

Do any of you have any idea what the big glass cylinder is for besides looking cool? What is its purpose? What are the metal fins with the holes for?
In the other picture you can see the neighbor BASF. I'm still wondering what the pipes from BASF are for. Are they old pipes that have no function today or do we get something from BASF for our production?

Talga Advanced Materials GmbH

We seem to have developed the coating together with BASF. So they should also have an interest in the results.

"Talga enters agreement with Chemetall to develop graphene-based coatings
Talga Resources has announced the signing of a joint development agreement with Chemetall, a global business unit of BASF Coatings Division, to co-develop and commercialize graphene-enhanced metal surface coatings.

Under the terms of the Agreement, Talga and Chemetall will cooperate to develop Talga value-added graphene products for use in Chemetall surface treatment products. The joint development program aims to set new industry standards for eco-friendly, high performance, corrosion resistant surface treatments.

The Agreement is considered to be a significant milestone in Talga’s transition from development into commercialization and concludes extended negotiations and graphene product sample testing with Chemetall."
https://www.graphene-info.com/talga-enters-agreement-chemetall-develop-graphene-based-coatings

Doesn't explain to me what the tubes are for though. The graphene is simply mixed in on site as a powder.

By the way: The project chemist who worked for us for 6 years now works for BASF across the street.
 
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Talga to the Moon 🚀🛰️


"Battery Materials Specialist Talga Group Joins Remote Operations Accelerator AROSE
September 17, 2022

ASX-listed battery and advanced materials company Talga Group has joined an exclusive list of members helping AROSE advance Australia’s remote operations capability on Earth and in Space.

Talga is the latest company to join AROSE, the Perth-based remote operations accelerator whose impressive list of members includes leading companies from the resources, Space and research sectors.

Talga Group Managing Director Mark Thompson said membership of AROSE aligned with the company’s culture of innovation, research and development and sustainable growth.

“Talga aims to enable the world’s most sustainable batteries and advanced materials using our innovative graphitic technology,” Mr Thompson said.

“We are looking forward to collaborating with AROSE members and helping to transfer our knowledge and expertise of graphite-based products to in-Space applications.”

AROSE Chair David Flanagan said Talga’s future-facing battery materials technology was an ideal complement to the products and services of its 14 other members, all industry leaders in their respective fields.

“It is an exciting time for Australia’s space industry with many opportunities for local companies to expand their service offering, develop workforce skills and become a valued part of the international Space supply chain,” Mr Flanagan said.

“The Space sector is creating a new economic engine for sustainable growth and jobs in Australia.”

According to Thompson Talga viewed Space applications as an exciting extension for the company’s advanced materials research and development program.

“Talga’s in-house expertise and facilities allow us to customise materials to suit highly specialised end use applications,” said Thompson

“Membership of AROSE will open up opportunities for us to participate in exciting new projects at the forefront of research and materials science with our industry peers.”

“European facilities are ideal for developing and testing products and materials for the demanding conditions of Space exploration.”

“Talga is one of the world’s leading developers of green lithium-ion battery anodes and high-performance graphite-based materials.” says Thompson.

Talga’s flagship graphite anode product has an ultra-low CO2 emissions profile with demonstrated fast charge, high-capacity and low-temperature performance and specialises in creating advanced materials that are lighter, stronger and more conductive.

Applications include building materials, coatings, composites, plastics and energy storage."
https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au...up-joins-remote-operations-accelerator-arose/
 
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Interesting and always good to be involved in this type of R&D, not the type of thing you do if you know your going to run out of $’s in the next quarter!!! As long as it does not distract from the focus on getting the core business running at full steam, I’m all for it…
 
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Talga to the Moon 🚀🛰️


"Battery Materials Specialist Talga Group Joins Remote Operations Accelerator AROSE
September 17, 2022

ASX-listed battery and advanced materials company Talga Group has joined an exclusive list of members helping AROSE advance Australia’s remote operations capability on Earth and in Space.

Talga is the latest company to join AROSE, the Perth-based remote operations accelerator whose impressive list of members includes leading companies from the resources, Space and research sectors.

Talga Group Managing Director Mark Thompson said membership of AROSE aligned with the company’s culture of innovation, research and development and sustainable growth.

“Talga aims to enable the world’s most sustainable batteries and advanced materials using our innovative graphitic technology,” Mr Thompson said.

“We are looking forward to collaborating with AROSE members and helping to transfer our knowledge and expertise of graphite-based products to in-Space applications.”

AROSE Chair David Flanagan said Talga’s future-facing battery materials technology was an ideal complement to the products and services of its 14 other members, all industry leaders in their respective fields.

“It is an exciting time for Australia’s space industry with many opportunities for local companies to expand their service offering, develop workforce skills and become a valued part of the international Space supply chain,” Mr Flanagan said.

“The Space sector is creating a new economic engine for sustainable growth and jobs in Australia.”

According to Thompson Talga viewed Space applications as an exciting extension for the company’s advanced materials research and development program.

“Talga’s in-house expertise and facilities allow us to customise materials to suit highly specialised end use applications,” said Thompson

“Membership of AROSE will open up opportunities for us to participate in exciting new projects at the forefront of research and materials science with our industry peers.”

“European facilities are ideal for developing and testing products and materials for the demanding conditions of Space exploration.”

“Talga is one of the world’s leading developers of green lithium-ion battery anodes and high-performance graphite-based materials.” says Thompson.

Talga’s flagship graphite anode product has an ultra-low CO2 emissions profile with demonstrated fast charge, high-capacity and low-temperature performance and specialises in creating advanced materials that are lighter, stronger and more conductive.

Applications include building materials, coatings, composites, plastics and energy storage."
https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au...up-joins-remote-operations-accelerator-arose/
Very interesting Cosors - good find!

A nice reminder of the high value applications for Talga’s advanced material business, which will be the cream on top of the insatiable demand for graphite anodes for the next decade and beyond.

You could imagine Mark Thompson and Elon Musk would have a lot to discuss over a coffee - supplying the world’s greenest anodes for Tesla and advanced graphitic materials for Musk’s Space-x ambitions. Lot’s of synergies between the two.

Mark has been very clever having a base in Cambridge, UK and tapping into a lot of Government grants into researching Talnode Si, e-axle project with Bentley etc, which also helps them rub shoulders with many of the key players in the Auto supply chain. This new Space focussed accelerator may similarly put them in front of similarly influential future customers.

Really looking forward to the Swedish Court site visit to Vittangi this Tuesday and hopefully we get some positive media coverage!
 
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You seem to have your eye on the numbers. Please calculate this for me and that proved.
I doesn't know that.)
Can you try this one again mate please.. I'm having trouble following what you mean?
 
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Very interesting Cosors - good find!

A nice reminder of the high value applications for Talga’s advanced material business, which will be the cream on top of the insatiable demand for graphite anodes for the next decade and beyond.

You could imagine Mark Thompson and Elon Musk would have a lot to discuss over a coffee - supplying the world’s greenest anodes for Tesla and advanced graphitic materials for Musk’s Space-x ambitions. Lot’s of synergies between the two.

Mark has been very clever having a base in Cambridge, UK and tapping into a lot of Government grants into researching Talnode Si, e-axle project with Bentley etc, which also helps them rub shoulders with many of the key players in the Auto supply chain. This new Space focussed accelerator may similarly put them in front of similarly influential future customers.

Really looking forward to the Swedish Court site visit to Vittangi this Tuesday and hopefully we get some positive media coverage!
I love the Octopus Project 🤗
 
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Talga to the Moon 🚀🛰️


"Battery Materials Specialist Talga Group Joins Remote Operations Accelerator AROSE
September 17, 2022

ASX-listed battery and advanced materials company Talga Group has joined an exclusive list of members helping AROSE advance Australia’s remote operations capability on Earth and in Space.

Talga is the latest company to join AROSE, the Perth-based remote operations accelerator whose impressive list of members includes leading companies from the resources, Space and research sectors.

Talga Group Managing Director Mark Thompson said membership of AROSE aligned with the company’s culture of innovation, research and development and sustainable growth.

“Talga aims to enable the world’s most sustainable batteries and advanced materials using our innovative graphitic technology,” Mr Thompson said.

“We are looking forward to collaborating with AROSE members and helping to transfer our knowledge and expertise of graphite-based products to in-Space applications.”

AROSE Chair David Flanagan said Talga’s future-facing battery materials technology was an ideal complement to the products and services of its 14 other members, all industry leaders in their respective fields.

“It is an exciting time for Australia’s space industry with many opportunities for local companies to expand their service offering, develop workforce skills and become a valued part of the international Space supply chain,” Mr Flanagan said.

“The Space sector is creating a new economic engine for sustainable growth and jobs in Australia.”

According to Thompson Talga viewed Space applications as an exciting extension for the company’s advanced materials research and development program.

“Talga’s in-house expertise and facilities allow us to customise materials to suit highly specialised end use applications,” said Thompson

“Membership of AROSE will open up opportunities for us to participate in exciting new projects at the forefront of research and materials science with our industry peers.”

“European facilities are ideal for developing and testing products and materials for the demanding conditions of Space exploration.”

“Talga is one of the world’s leading developers of green lithium-ion battery anodes and high-performance graphite-based materials.” says Thompson.

Talga’s flagship graphite anode product has an ultra-low CO2 emissions profile with demonstrated fast charge, high-capacity and low-temperature performance and specialises in creating advanced materials that are lighter, stronger and more conductive.

Applications include building materials, coatings, composites, plastics and energy storage."
https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au...up-joins-remote-operations-accelerator-arose/
To the Moon Part II

I had wondered a bit why MT almost exclusively referred to our anodes. I didn't really expect it to be about that and more about next graphene thing. But probably here we are about space secondary batteries!
If you follow the link in the article, this will come up:

"Arose Connecting Industry On A Journey To Space.
November 23, 2021
A new opportunity has been created for companies to join the Australian mission to space.

As the first off the launch-pad, Australian Remote Operations for Space and Earth (AROSE) welcomes mining technology leader IMDEX as an industry sponsor on its mission to design, build and remotely operate an Australian rover on the Moon.

Recently the Federal Government announced up to $50 million will be made available under the Moon to Mars Initiative Trailblazer program for an industry-led consortium of Australian businesses and research institutions to develop a Lunar Service Rover.

The semi-autonomous rover will collect lunar soil that contains oxides, and using separate equipment, NASA will aim to extract oxygen from the soil. This is a key step towards establishing a sustainable human presence on the Moon and supporting future missions to Mars.

In June of this year, AROSE received a funding boost through the Federal Government’s Moon to Mars Initiative Demonstrator Feasibility grants, administered by the Australian Space Agency, for Stage 1 of the mission. Stage 1 is to develop the pilot concept for a remotely operated Lunar Service Rover.

Now AROSE is connecting industry to be part of this unique journey to Space.

IMDEX has joined AROSE as a sponsor for Stage 1 of the Mission. IMDEX develops cloud-connected sensors and drilling optimisation products to improve the process of identifying and extracting mineral resources.

AROSE Chief Executive Officer Leanne Cunnold said it was companies such as IMDEX that further strengthened Australia’s position on the global space platform by enabling the transfer of Australia’s cutting-edge robotics technology and systems for remote operations.

“The learnings from developing for the harshest of all environments, space, where you need to make things lighter, smaller, more power efficient can then help optimise operations on Earth” Ms Cunnold said.

“It also encourages other companies to be part of the nation’s Space future. The Space sector is expected to provide thousands of jobs and inject billions of dollars into our national economy.

“AROSE is connecting Australian industry with us on our journey to the Moon. I am delighted IMDEX has joined us as a sponsor.”

IMDEX Chief Executive Officer Paul House said the space industry was a natural extension of the expertise in automation and remote area operations that are the hallmarks of the Australian mining sector.

“IMDEX is at the forefront of finding solutions for the mining sector; using that knowledge to provide answers for the space industry will be both rewarding and exhilarating,” Mr House said."
https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au/news/arose-connecting-industry-on-a-journey-to-space/



I immediately asked myself how batteries actually work in space. So I went to Wiki and found out that there are two types of batteries. The one we are concerned with is the secondary battery, as it is intended for recharging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batteries_in_space

Of course, I couldn't find any graphite in the nickel-hydrogen batteries because hydrogen seems to do the job here. But Semmel can pick this apart much better than I can and correct me if necessary. But the Wiki article is not quite up to date. Research has developed further which is explained in detail in this article by the ESA. It is a bit more detailed so here so here is the link and some info.:

Secondary Lithium Batteries for Spacecraft

https://www.esa.int/esapub/bulletin/bullet90/b90dudle.htm

So, Nickel-hydrogen is the past old generation and the new one is called lithium-carbon battery.
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(courtesy of AEA Technology) => Here, the link probably leads through our Cambridge branch.)

Here is the summary:
"It is an exciting time in the space battery field. Lithium-carbon promises to revolutionise space batteries, providing a much bigger step up in performance than that which was achieved in the switch from nickel-cadmium to nickel-hydrogen. GEO spacecraft using this technology will have a significant competitive edge over those using nickel-hydrogen. It should also provide a considerable cost/performance advantage for small satellites, as well as improve mission capability for certain scientific spacecraft. In the interests of maintaining European competitiveness, it is essential that the greatest possible effort be made to qualify this technology for space as quickly as possible."

My summary: It's going to the moon with graphite from Vittangi.
Semmel?



"STUDY CONFIRMS AUSTRALIA CAN DELIVER LUNAR SERVICES ROVER FOR NASA

An AROSE study commissioned by the Australian Space Agency has confirmed for the first time that there is sufficient design and advanced manufacturing capability within Australia to build, test and operate a Lunar Services Rover in support of NASA’s return mission to the Moon.

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Study Lead, Dr Sarah Cannard, from AROSE member Nova Systems, said the study identified more than 60 companies across Australia with the combined technology, services, facilities and workforce skills ‘available, or under development’, to design, manufacture, test and operate a Lunar Services Rover for NASA’s Artemis mission.
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https://www.arose.org.au/news/study-confirms-australia-can-deliver-lunar-services-rover-for-nasa/



"Australian Moon rover one step closer with AROSE​

22 Jun2021
An Australian rover for use on the Moon is one step closer to reality after the Australian Remote Operations for Space and Earth (AROSE) consortium received a funding boost from the federal government’s Moon to Mars Initiative Demonstrator Feasibility grants, administered through the Australian Space Agency.
AROSE will use the funding to develop a pilot concept for a remotely operated Construction Rover that could be used by NASA as part of its Artemis Mission to return to the Moon by 2024 and establish a sustained and safe presence there."
https://www.arose.org.au/news/australian-moon-rover-one-step-closer-with-arose/



So for me, I love space and don't dismiss it as a crazy waste of money. I am now looking forward to probably going into space with two of my favourite companies. I don't know about you guys. I couldn't care less about the commercial effect. You know what technology is used for space missions. So if I were MT, I would be mighty proud to have been chosen.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all works out and a small smart autonomous rover inspired by Akida will go up there driving many times faster than has ever been possible before, and empowered by Talnode-Space.

I find that extremely exciting 🚀 🌑
 
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