BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Boab]

The slide says edge space and I don't think True North plays in that space.

Loihi is a research chip according to most notes on it.

Jetson or Orin...maybe.

I suspect Innatera, maybe Greenwaves would be a couple....Rain possibly if we have specs and a few others as probables like Qualcomm even in the edge space.

I know a made a bit fun at it yesterday but...

Still, it is asking a bit of blind faith when we can't as investors actually compare our own research on the competitors we are competing with.

I'm curious who they are and if those competitors are already selling product and if so, why, if we stack up better as per the slide.

Not sure if I'm still barking up the wrong tree FMF but there may be some more relevant info on Page(s) 8-11??
Regards
https://brainchip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/BrainChip_Benchmarking-Edge-AI-Inference-1.pdf

 

[Diogenese]

An under rated post Evermont
Here is a video many have already seen fromLuca Verre.

You don't need rose coloured glasses to see Qualcomm are accessing an event based camera for the mobile phone industry.
If you watch the clip with Luca, Prophesee, are on to a good thing and the similarities seen in that clip with the BRN discussions, videos podcasts and use cases offered by the BRN team for AKIDA are eerily similar.

Prophesee are using AKIDA in their event based cameras.... IMO ans Qualcomm are using Prophesee to propel their advantage in the mobile phone camera space.

Hi FK,

I wish that were true, but the available evidence does not support your conclusion.

The X320 is a mini version of the Prophesee Gen 4 DVS, having about a tenth the number of pixels.

Qualcomm has their own Hexagon NPU in Snapdragon 8.2.

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 deep dive: Everything you need to know (androidauthority.com)

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 deep dive: Everything you need to know

All you'll ever need to know about Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 mobile platform for next-gen phones can be found here.

www.androidauthority.com

To boost performance, the Tensor accelerator inside the DSP has doubled in size for twice the performance and has new optimizations specifically for language processing. Qualcomm is also debuting what it calls micro tile inference support, essentially chopping up imaging and other problems into smaller tiles to save on memory at the expense of some result accuracy. Along those lines, the addition of INT4 also means that developers can now implement machine learning problems requiring high bandwidth at the expense of some accuracy if compressing a larger model. Qualcomm is providing tools to partners to help support INT4, so it will require a retooling of existing applications to work.
...
Qualcomm doubled the physical link between the image signal processor (ISP), Hexagon DSP, and Adreno GPU, driving higher bandwidth and lowering latency. This allows the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 to run much more powerful machine-learning tasks on imaging data right off the camera sensor. RAW data, for instance, can be passed directly to the DSP/AI Engine for imaging workloads, or Qualcomm can use the link to upscale low-res gaming scenarios to assist with GPU load balancing.

So it is possible that Prophesee dumbed-down its DVS so it would work with Snapdragon 8.2.

 

[Getupthere]

As was said yesterday these competitors may become customers or we may even be in discussion with them??
I think its pretty clear its Jetson, Lohii and True North

It could well be that the competition may well be our partners or future customers however if you are presenting information for new investors then it’s not a good look saying that your technology is better then competitors when you won’t even name the competition.

Better not have the comparision in the first place.

 

[cassip]

Yesterday I read about "catastropic forgetting" of neural networks. Does anybody know if/how Akida deals with this?

see, for example, here:

"Hebbain Learning based orthogonal projection for continual learning of spiking neural networks" (19.2.24)
https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.11984

and:
"Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks" (2016)

Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks

The ability to learn tasks in a sequential fashion is crucial to the development of artificial intelligence. Neural networks are not, in general, capable of this and it has been widely thought that catastrophic forgetting is an inevitable feature of connectionist models. We show that it is...

arxiv.org

"A brain-inspired algorithm that mitigates catastrophic forgetting of artificial and spiking neural networks with low computational cost" (2023)

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adi2947

 

[Perhaps]

Published Feb 26, 2024

Apple Reportedly Exploring Smart Glasses, Adding AI to AirPods

Some Apple employees also want the tech giant to develop a fitness ring, but that's not currently in active development, Bloomberg reports.

au.pcmag.com

EXTRACT
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Wow, "smart" and "AI" has triggered me. Must be Akida inside, right?

 

[Bravo]

Wow, "smart" and "AI" has triggered me. Must be Akida inside, right?

What’s your problem dude?

 

[Terroni2105]

Was finally watching the presso and my word....if you listen to it backwards it reveals the NDA partners

Hi Fmf , do you have the link for todays preso? I watched it live and haven’t been able to find the link since to watch it again.
thanks.

 

[Diogenese]

Yesterday I read about "catastropic forgetting" of neural networks. Does anybody know if/how Akida deals with this?

see, for example, here:

"Hebbain Learning based orthogonal projection for continual learning of spiking neural networks" (19.2.24)
https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.11984

and:
"Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks" (2016)

Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks

The ability to learn tasks in a sequential fashion is crucial to the development of artificial intelligence. Neural networks are not, in general, capable of this and it has been widely thought that catastrophic forgetting is an inevitable feature of connectionist models. We show that it is...

arxiv.org

"A brain-inspired algorithm that mitigates catastrophic forgetting of artificial and spiking neural networks with low computational cost" (2023)

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adi2947

Off the top of my head, I think that amnesia only occurs with back propagation ML, which Akida does not do. Akida adjusts the last layer only during ML.

 

[Food4 thought]

Germany is down 24 % at present
Back to where we were a month ago.
Time to buy more shares again.

 

[Perhaps]

What’s your problem dude?

Just think about it, some others maybe too:

ASX speeding tickets triple on social media-driven speculation

The number of price queries issued by the market operator has jumped due to market volatility.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Not sure if I'm still barking up the wrong tree FMF but there may be some more relevant info on Page(s) 8-11??
Regards
https://brainchip.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/BrainChip_Benchmarking-Edge-AI-Inference-1.pdf

I see where you're coming from but those are from MCU performances in key areas against Akida ie keyword spotting.

The MCUs used are publicly available results as noted in the presso and are for tiny/ml.

If it was that they considered the Jetson nano a competitor in the other table then why not list it as they have listed it in the tiny/ml comparisons that we would essentially be competing against.

 

[IloveLamp]

Germany is down 24 % at present
Back to where we were a month ago.
Time to buy more shares again.

I'd love to but but......

 

[7für7]

Germany is down 24 % at present
Back to where we were a month ago.
Time to buy more shares again.

Soon all short sellers…..

COVER COVER COVER FUUUUU…..

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Hi Fmf , do you have the link for todays preso? I watched it live and haven’t been able to find the link since to watch it again.
thanks.

Sorry T but no.

I was having some fun for those of us old enough to remember vinyl and the conspiracy theories way back about playing them backwards for hidden or sublimal messages.

 

[The Pope]

This may cheer up some on TSE
Rob likes this one post on linkedin

#snapdragon #metavision #eventbased #deblur #mobilephotography… | PROPHESEE | 12 comments

[BREAKING] Just in from MWC 📣 Prophesee's Metavision® image deblur solution for smartphones is now production-ready, seamlessly optimized for Qualcomm's #Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 Mobile Platform. 🤳 Prophesee’s event-based Metavision sensors and AI now bring motion blur cancellation and overall image...

www.linkedin.com

[BREAKING] Just in from MWC Prophesee's Metavision® image deblur solution for smartphones is now production-ready, seamlessly optimized for Qualcomm's #Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 Mobile Platform.

Prophesee’s event-based Metavision sensors and AI now bring motion blur cancellation and overall image quality to unprecedented levels, especially in the most challenging scenarios faced by conventional frame-based RGB sensors, fast-moving and low-light scenes.

Welcome to a new world of crystal-clear, emotion-filled moments. All brought to life from a smartphone, shot with Metavision.

Join us on a journey of art and technology with two acclaimed Paris Opera ballet dancers as we push the boundaries of mobile photography https://bit.ly/3UUrFWn

#metavision #eventbased #deblur #mobilephotography #eventsensor #evs #neuromorphic #eventcamera

 

[Fact Finder]

The following is a link to a presentation containing a Brainchip created Competitive Analysis Chart at page 13.

https://assets.website-files.com/627553f48fbde12d3cc9195b/6276efced9a5e79161644181_BrainChip%20Investor%20DECK.pdf

You will note beyond Intel and IBM that Google Coral and Deep Learning Accelerators from Nvidia and others are listed and compared to AKIDA which ticks all the boxes.

Today we are told the competitors names are not included basically for politeness sake.

Until today Brainchip has seen no reason to be so polite about Google, Nvidia & others when listing competitors failings compared to AKIDA technology.

What has changed???

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

 

[Bravo]

Just think about it, some others maybe too:

ASX speeding tickets triple on social media-driven speculation

The number of price queries issued by the market operator has jumped due to market volatility.

www.smh.com.au

And your point being?... Please don't beat around the bush. What is the point you are trying to make?

 

[DingoBorat]

Does anyone actually think that this is a good look for new potential shareholders?

Why would you have this If you won’t name them.

Not a good look IMO.

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I don't think it's "Not a good look"..

But it's a bit of an unnecessary slide, which doesn't offer any information at all really..
Except to just say..
"We are better than the rest".

So I'm not sure why they would add it..

There are a myriad of reasons, why they may have not been able to name the competitors, some may have been legal..

 

[Perhaps]

And your point being?... Please don't beat around the bush. What is the point you are trying to make?

The point is, who needs endless speculations without any background day by day.
And if you don't understand the connections between speeding tickets and speculation activities like this forum, sorry, I can't help you.

 

[IloveLamp]

This may cheer up some on TSE
Rob likes this one post on linkedin

#snapdragon #metavision #eventbased #deblur #mobilephotography… | PROPHESEE | 12 comments

[BREAKING] Just in from MWC 📣 Prophesee's Metavision® image deblur solution for smartphones is now production-ready, seamlessly optimized for Qualcomm's #Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 Mobile Platform. 🤳 Prophesee’s event-based Metavision sensors and AI now bring motion blur cancellation and overall image...

www.linkedin.com

[BREAKING] Just in from MWC Prophesee's Metavision® image deblur solution for smartphones is now production-ready, seamlessly optimized for Qualcomm's #Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 Mobile Platform.

Prophesee’s event-based Metavision sensors and AI now bring motion blur cancellation and overall image quality to unprecedented levels, especially in the most challenging scenarios faced by conventional frame-based RGB sensors, fast-moving and low-light scenes.

Welcome to a new world of crystal-clear, emotion-filled moments. All brought to life from a smartphone, shot with Metavision.

Join us on a journey of art and technology with two acclaimed Paris Opera ballet dancers as we push the boundaries of mobile photography https://bit.ly/3UUrFWn

#metavision #eventbased #deblur #mobilephotography #eventsensor #evs #neuromorphic #eventcamera