BRN Discussion Ongoing

[zeeb0t]

If I may be permitted to chime in here, I don't know if Dreddbott is ever going to make into the Comedy Festival line-up because he doesn't appear to have a very good sense of humour.

It said that I was flaming and baiting when I said "Whoops, forgive me, I must have missed the memo that told us this forum is actually the BrainChip complaints department".

And in another example, it reasoned that "carrying on like a pork chop" was a personal insult and the use of "whinge" could be considered a profanity.

If we can't use sarcasm as an expression of humour then I am definitely going to wind up a permanent fixture in the naughty corner.

And yes, I agree with your sentiment @Borat. I think that it has the potential to lead to a cold and clinical "vibe" which would be a shame because we should be allowed to have a bit of fun because that's part of this forum's charm IMO.

Your complaint then is with the numerous community members who felt otherwise.

 

[DingoBorat]

Two things…. First, I rely on numerous folks here to report, before it acts, to enact a “turn the blind eye” protocol you describe. The AI does not need to do this, because the community decided for it. Second, your “please the author” statement is not entirely true. It does want to please the author, and so it is up to the author to ensure the AI knows what it is going to take to please it.

Simply, I prompted the AI to judge the rules in strict adherence only because the human element has prevailed.

If you feel like the AI should have let it go, your question is really one for the numerous people who reported it first.

That would be the soft serves, right ..

 

[zeeb0t]

That would be the soft serves, right ..

The AI does not decide the human element. Your numerous peers did that when reporting.

In short; your concern is misdirected as is others here. Blaming the technology when it was 5+ peers who sent it that way is really where your argument lies imo.

 

[Bravo]

Your complaint then is with the numerous community members who felt otherwise.

But since when did "whinge" become a profanity? Also I happen to really like pork chops!

Plus who doesn't think "Whoops, forgive me, I must have missed the memo that told us this forum is actually the BrainChip complaints department" was funny?

 

[zeeb0t]

Anyway can we please refrain from derailing this forum anymore than we have? I’m happy to take it to messages if you’d like to discuss the concepts further.

 

[zeeb0t]

But since when did "whinge" become a profanity? Also I happen to really like pork chops!

Plus who doesn't think "Whoops, forgive me, I must have missed the memo that told us this forum is actually the BrainChip complaints department" was funny?

Take it to message mate. No more derailing BRN, we’ve given it enough airtime here. But simply, your peers didn’t agree. What can I say?

 

[JDelekto]

I didnt receive anything so i logined on Boardroom and i can vote from there. If you haven't registered with them then they will send an activation mail to your address.

I did try going there, and used the correct country, what I appear to be missing the Voter Access Code (VAC):

I am not sure where to get this? Is this issued by the company?

 

[Schnitzel lover]

Well I just completed the on-line voting for the AGM, and surprised myself. I am a huge fan of PVdM and AM and what they have done to bring their vision to reality. So I voted for PVdM's performance rights. What he has achieved is tangible and visible.

As for the other performance rights and restricted stock units, I voted against them all. Why I hear you ask? Don't we need to issue these to preserve cash and still attract top quality people? My answer is a definite yes, with the BIG qualification that I need to have visibility of what the KPI's are so I can understand the value that the recipients have brought and are being rewarded for.

I was a senior exec in the IT industry for many years (Asia Pac MD of a Silicon Valley based software company) and am very conversant with, and a big supporter of, incentive schemes. However, the lack of information and transparency on display here means that I cannot, in all good conscience, vote for something I don't understand. NDA's and so forth notwithstanding, the directors will need to do much better at allowing me to understand the proposals before they get my vote.

My opinion only and DYOR before making up your mind.

Arent they 2026 vesting?

Makes it harder to vote in that regard with what may transpire the 3years in between..

I decided to vote in favour as I think if 3 years passes I’m happy to give the benefit of the doubt until then..

 

[Onboard21]

I did try going there, and used the correct country, what I appear to be missing the Voter Access Code (VAC):

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I am not sure where to get this? Is this issued by the company?

yes, I received mine in an email

 

[Diogenese]

Take it to message mate. No more derailing BRN, we’ve given it enough airtime here. But simply, your peers didn’t agree. What can I say?

You could say "A minority of your peers don't agree."

 

[Schnitzel lover]

I have noticed that several other people have mentioned voting before the AGM. As an investor in the US, I hold shares of the BCHPY ADR (a very insignificant amount) and OTC-traded BRCHF in my Fidelity Investment accounts. I assume that for my holding of BRCHF, I should be allowed to vote.

While I get the occasional marketing e-mails from BrainChip and Rob Telson, I have not received anything about the information I need to be able to log in and vote online. Additionally, there are no proxy materials provided from my Fidelity account.

While I have sent an e-mail to Tony Dawe to inquire about this, can anyone think of a reason that would exclude me from voting? Is it because I am an overseas retail investor? Could it be that the number of shares I hold is not enough to reach a certain threshold? Maybe there is information that BrainChip needs to provide to Fidelity?

I understand that I have no voting rights for the BCHPY ADRs because the actual shares are owned by the bank that issues them, but I believe that with BRCHF, I own the share.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this one. I've never voted for any of my investments in the past, mainly because I've never really owned a single stock, only mutual funds.

Yes I think it’s an ASX thing.. Eg when they release Announcements they say not for distribution in other countries.. I assume it’s the same for voting rights at the AGM..

It’s probably to do with where your shares are held. If they are not directly held via the ASX then you don’t have any voting rights until or unless the listing changes to a dual listing (Nasdaq).

AIMO I think that’s what is occurring here

 

[zeeb0t]

You could say "A minority of your peers don't agree."

Well, a civil jury consists of 4 in NSW. So, this is one above that.

 

[Diogenese]

Well, a civil jury consists of 4 in NSW. So, this is one above that.

But they are the complainants.

 

[JDelekto]

yes, I received mine in an email

This is probably part of the issue. I've not received any e-mail from either Fidelity or BrainChip. As I noted, I am receiving marketing e-mails from BrainChip and Rob Telson, but this apparently would not be the list they send to the actual investors.

I am guessing I either need to notify the company of my e-mail or perhaps there is some configuration on the Fidelity platform to provide it. I have sent an e-mail to Tony Dawe, whom I hope will point me in the right direction.

Hopefully, I don't end up in circles with the company saying that Fidelity should have notified me, with Fidelity responding in kind, saying that the company hasn't done this, that, or the other. That seems to be a recurring theme lately, like the whole DTC eligibility fiasco. The last reply I received regarding that topic was from Mark Komonowski on October 3rd of last year, then just silence.

 

[zeeb0t]

But they are the complainants.

Sure. And so what do you have to say when I see Forum regulars destroying the forum by engaging the trolls, putting so much effort in to that, but none of which bother to hit report?

The reason the number is 5 is because based on data, that is roughly the number of times something is reported before it needs to be looked at.

I’d much rather that number be 10, 20, 50 - but we’d sooner see as many flaming and baiting responses to trolls than reports.

Where is the problem here? Is it I for needing to set that number, or is it members who’d rather complain loudly repeatedly and publicly to the distress of the forum, then to just hit report and be done with?

 

[Wags]

The AI does not decide the human element. Your numerous peers did that when reporting.

In short; your concern is misdirected as is others here. Blaming the technology when it was 5+ peers who sent it that way is really where your argument lies imo.

Just asking for a friend, Are all these posts re Dreddbot "on topic". Careful, you may get sent to visit Bravo. oooops, now I may be.....

 

[Diogenese]

Sure. And so what do you have to say when I see Forum regulars destroying the forum by engaging the trolls, putting so much effort in to that, but none of which bother to hit report?

The reason the number is 5 is because based on data, that is roughly the number of times something is reported before it needs to be looked at.

I’d much rather that number be 10, 20, 50 - but we’d sooner see as many flaming and baiting responses to trolls than reports.

Where is the problem here? Is it I for needing to set that number, or is it members who’d rather complain loudly repeatedly and publicly to the distress of the forum, then to just hit report and be done with?

I'm all for free speech ...
for everyone who agrees with me.

 

[Shadow59]

For goodness sake Zee is between the devil and the deep blue sea with this. He is doing a fantastic job in an imperfect world.
There will always be those that disagree. Quite often the minority, which are those that make the most noise. Remember we all have personal filters if it gets to hard press ignore!

 

[JDelekto]

Yes I think it’s an ASX thing.. Eg when they release Announcements they say not for distribution in other countries.. I assume it’s the same for voting rights at the AGM..

It’s probably to do with where your shares are held. If they are not directly held via the ASX then you don’t have any voting rights until or unless the listing changes to a dual listing (Nasdaq).

AIMO I think that’s what is occurring here

I'm not sure that's the case. Wouldn't their listing on the OTC markets (not the pink sheets) be considered a dual listing? I see announcements appearing on the Fidelity platform, although usually a day later than on the ASX.

Unless my memory fails me, it seems that some announcements aren't making it through or have the distribution limitations you noted.

I still go to ASX for all the announcements as I found they are not time delayed. One could get them hot off the ASX site in the BRN announcements section before that time expired.

 

[Humble Genius]

I have noticed that several other people have mentioned voting before the AGM. As an investor in the US, I hold shares of the BCHPY ADR (a very insignificant amount) and OTC-traded BRCHF in my Fidelity Investment accounts. I assume that for my holding of BRCHF, I should be allowed to vote.

While I get the occasional marketing e-mails from BrainChip and Rob Telson, I have not received anything about the information I need to be able to log in and vote online. Additionally, there are no proxy materials provided from my Fidelity account.

While I have sent an e-mail to Tony Dawe to inquire about this, can anyone think of a reason that would exclude me from voting? Is it because I am an overseas retail investor? Could it be that the number of shares I hold is not enough to reach a certain threshold? Maybe there is information that BrainChip needs to provide to Fidelity?

I understand that I have no voting rights for the BCHPY ADRs because the actual shares are owned by the bank that issues them, but I believe that with BRCHF, I own the share.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this one. I've never voted for any of my investments in the past, mainly because I've never really owned a single stock, only mutual funds.

I'm presume they are coming to you in the mail, mailed from Australia? My 6 sets of voting forms came in the mail yesterday, in Melbourne that is, so I guess yours may take a bit longer (and no I didn't receive any email on this topic either).