BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Cardpro]

Yeah, thanks! But honestly, it all sounds more like a constantly repeated mantra or a kind of TSE-community self-hypnosis, rather than a plausible explanation—which is what I was actually asking for. We’ve been repeating the same lines for years… and throwing around superlatives feels pretty inappropriate given the current situation.

Like I said: we know from various sources and industry insiders that Akida has real potential – so what’s the issue?
Manipulators, short sellers, and people trying to drag companies down exist in every stock.
And there are companies out there with no real product at all that are trading at higher valuations than we are.

So?

I think this issue can be fixed - IF we can get someone to PAY us and successfully incorporate our products into their products... not research, not partnerships to explore, not fluffs, but actual products... we've been waiting for years, hype itself won't support our share price just like how we can’t pay our bills with hopes... we need results...

IMO ONLY

 

[Jacob Kiraz]

I think this issue can be fixed - IF we can get someone to PAY us and successfully incorporate our products into their products... not research, not partnerships to explore, not fluffs, but actual products... we've been waiting for years, hype itself won't support our share price just like how we can’t pay our bills with hopes... we need results...

IMO ONLY

What doesn't help our shareprice everything is a secret,
We have Patents,
Partnerships
But what does all this mean until Companies have come out and endorse Akida in there Products

 

[smoothsailing18]

I am over at il of man watching the TT race which is unbelievable to see close up, but can't help compairing the buzzing of the side cars reminds me of some of the pests here and on crapper as they down ramp our beloved BRN at every possable opportunity or corner they can .
Go Brainchip

 

[manny100]

I think this issue can be fixed - IF we can get someone to PAY us and successfully incorporate our products into their products... not research, not partnerships to explore, not fluffs, but actual products... we've been waiting for years, hype itself won't support our share price just like how we can’t pay our bills with hopes... we need results...

IMO ONLY

I guess if as expected Neuromorphic AI at the Edge experiences exponential growth and that BRN is currently a leader in the field then our patent value should be considerable.
It's likely that any new inventions that can perform the same tasks as Gen2/TENNs plus cover our roadmap could take years to prove out before being commercial.
See the table below showing the time it takes from invention to mass adoption. Timeframes are shortening but it looks like anything under 10 years for mass adoption would be seen as 'a rush'. Of course, there is some money to be made in the mid to later stages on the road to mass adoption.
The patent for AKIDA 1000 was granted in the US in October 2021 so mass adoption will not likely arrive until at the very least the 2030's.
Sean did say that the 'AI' revolution would eventually make the prior revolutions look like nothing.
Unfortunately it's just the way it is.
See the table below for estimates.

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www.visualcapitalist.com

It took radio and TV at least three decades to go from invention to mainstream use. And once they proliferated, an entirely new sector—mass media—evolved, a key driver of globalization.

Year	Invention	Mass Adoption	# of Years
1890s*	Radio	1920	30
1920s*	TV	1950	30
1970	Internet	1994	24
1971	Email	1997	26
1973	Mobile Phones	2000	27
1994	Smartphones	2010	16
1996	USB	2005	9
2008	Blockchain	???	N/A
2017	Generative AI	???	N/A

 

[smoothsailing18]

Brainchip started being available in 2014 apon listing I believe, so we are well on our way as most if not all semiconductor manufacturers are working on neuromorphic compute with all the major manufacturers worldwide know what's coming in the next technology wave.
Remember AI is moving alot faster than any other industry in history so time lines are extremely fast these days, abit Like the TT races.
The coin always has two sides so it's 50/50 on opinions as to time for huge success finnanaly.
Iam betting 2025 is the start of this mass migration to the edge with financial gains this year and beyond.
Go Brainchip

 

[manny100]

Brainchip started being available in 2014 apon listing I believe, so we are well on our way as most if not all semiconductor manufacturers are working on neuromorphic compute with all the major manufacturers worldwide know what's coming in the next technology wave.
Remember AI is moving alot faster than any other industry in history so time lines are extremely fast these days, abit Like the TT races.
The coin always has two sides so it's 50/50 on opinions as to time for huge success finnanaly.
Iam betting 2025 is the start of this mass migration tothe edge.
Go Brainchip

The chart reflects the later inventions from patent granting where possible.
The relevant date is from AKIDA 1000 patent granting (we became commercial in early 2022) which is out starting date on the way to mass adoption.
The estimates shown in the BRN Investor Update for Neuromorphic Edge AI for 2029 AT $822 mill and 2034 at $8,352 mill show the huge rate of growth but the 2034 estimate would still not be near mass adoption.
Eventually Neuromorphic Edge AI will feature constantly in our everyday life and most of the time we will not even know it.
As i said there is still money to be made in the mid to late stage on the way to mass adoption.
An estimated market of $832 million in 2029 sounds small but not if we land a very decent % of it.

 

[smoothsailing18]

The chart reflects the later inventions from patent granting where possible.
The relevant date is from AKIDA 1000 patent granting (we became commercial in early 2022) which is out starting date on the way to mass adoption.
The estimates shown in the BRN Investor Update for Neuromorphic Edge AI for 2029 AT $822 mill and 2034 at $8,352 mill show the huge rate of growth but the 2034 estimate would still not be near mass adoption.
Eventually Neuromorphic Edge AI will feature constantly in our everyday life and most of the time we will not even know it.
As i said there is still money to be made in the mid to late stage on the way to mass adoption.
An estimated market of $832 million in 2029 sounds small but not if we land a very decent % of it.

Excellent opportunities indeed beings we are at the forefront of neuromorphic compute and now in 2025 the estimated number mentioned in 2029 is four years away.
So imo we can safely suggest our yearly forecast each year moving forward and hope for a big deal in the very near future to get our time on the podium sooner rather than later so to speak. Its also important to remember companies work together prior to patient approval of Akida 1000 due to priorities from previous patients that protect us from others taking our route which brings Akida 1000 into the big way before 2022 as you have mentioned.
This understanding also goes with 2.O and Tenns
Go Brainchip

 

[Esq.111]

Evening Chippers ,

All this chatter of late...last few years ... rabid growth yadar ,yada, yadar.

Our Manigenent need to deliver.

Bought a few more at AU$0.22 the other day, only to see directors offloading stock ....to cover tax ...truely shitefull to say the least.
Que Pom down unders giff of the hound taking a dump.

Share holders giving tax free bonuses for........

Think it was two , possibly three years ago , when asked how thay evenly remotely justify their salaries, answer.... comensurate with a Co returning 20 to 30 mill plus annually.
Well thay have not come even remotely close over the passage of time .

Personally could not give two fiths of F$&#k for the Corn Fery overview, at a cost to shareholders, myself, of $60 odd thousand.

Needed to be delivering solid return by now to even remotely justify what these individuals think thay are worth.

Yes I voted against their renumeration this year also.

Like I said earlier , bought more & will continue to do so , our engineers / tech boffins are first class , manigement ????

Onwards .

Regards,
Esq

 

[CHIPS]

Evening Chippers ,

All this chatter of late...last few years ... rabid growth yadar ,yada, yadar.

Our Manigenent need to deliver.

Bought a few more at AU$0.22 the other day, only to see directors offloading stock ....to cover tax ...truely shitefull to say the least.
Que Pom down unders giff of the hound taking a dump.

Share holders giving tax free bonuses for........

Think it was two , possibly three years ago , when asked how thay evenly remotely justify their salaries, answer.... comensurate with a Co returning 20 to 30 mill plus annually.
Well thay have not come even remotely close over the passage of time .

Personally could not give two fiths of F$&#k for the Corn Fery overview, at a cost to shareholders, myself, of $60 odd thousand.

Needed to be delivering solid return by now to even remotely justify what these individuals think thay are worth.

Yes I voted against their renumeration this year also.

Like I said earlier , bought more & will continue to do so , our engineers / tech boffins are first class , manigement ????

Onwards .

Regards,
Esq

Exactly. I was always very convinced that everything would be fine with this management, but doubts are growing in my mind.
If we do not see any new IP-contract by the end of this year, a new CEO needs to be found. Sean does not seem to be able to deliver as promised.

 

[smoothsailing18]

IP deals may never be disclosed to shareholders as the manufacturers and thier clients utilise their own agreements to their advantage.
The secret sauce at the edge is neuromorphic compute this maybe all we here about products released ,don't hold your breath on IP announcements imo.
Hopefully we do tho fingers crossed

 

[CHIPS]

IP deals may never be disclosed to shareholders as the manufacturers and thier clients utilise their own agreements to their advantage.
The secret sauce at the edge is neuromorphic compute this maybe all we here about products released ,don't hold your breath on IP announcements imo.
Hopefully we do tho fingers crossed

IP-Deals have to be announced via ASX, to the best of my knowledge. But I would also settle for big figures in Q4. That would be fine too.

 

[smoothsailing18]

IP-Deals have to be announced via ASX, to the best of my knowledge. But I would also settle for big figures in Q4. That would be fine too.

It's got to happen Chips as far as brn being successful with or without IP announcements I firmly believe Sean is on the the moneys to align BRN with all the required inferstrucure,ecosystem and partners which he has achieved.
The problem he faced was a big one with the request for variation in models that we didn't have so clients could see we are not a one trick pony . This was achieved and now we are positioned across the board with more and more models in development.
It's hard to remain calm with the fact we have had such a long ️ wait, yet I think it's over now and we're going to see the shorter and nay sayers in the review mirror tumbling down the hill.
Go Brainchip

 

[manny100]

It's got to happen Chips as far as brn being successful with or without IP announcements I firmly believe Sean is on the the moneys to align BRN with all the required inferstrucure,ecosystem and partners which he has achieved.
The problem he faced was a big one with the request for variation in models that we didn't have so clients could see we are not a one trick pony . This was achieved and now we are positioned across the board with more and more models in development.
It's hard to remain calm with the fact we have had such a long ️ wait, yet I think it's over now and we're going to see the shorter and nay sayers in the review mirror tumbling down the hill.
Go Brainchip

I am bullish medium to long term.
We need a deal or 2 that gives the market confidence that Neuromorphic AI is going to grow exponentially and the growth has started.
Punters like to get in early.
We have been super early.
The deals do not need to be huge.

 

[Getupthere]

Japanese Semiconductor Startup Secures $21 Million In Grants For Edge AI — Forbes

Tokyo-headquartered EdgeCortix aims to develop chips for edge AI, a rapidly growing field that involves running applications without relying on cloud servers.

apple.news

 

[smoothsailing18]

They mentioned the following which could be interesting

Renesas Electronics. Renesas is also a customer of EdgeCortix

 

[itsol4605]

I guess if as expected Neuromorphic AI at the Edge experiences exponential growth and that BRN is currently a leader in the field then our patent value should be considerable.
It's likely that any new inventions that can perform the same tasks as Gen2/TENNs plus cover our roadmap could take years to prove out before being commercial.
See the table below showing the time it takes from invention to mass adoption. Timeframes are shortening but it looks like anything under 10 years for mass adoption would be seen as 'a rush'. Of course, there is some money to be made in the mid to later stages on the road to mass adoption.
The patent for AKIDA 1000 was granted in the US in October 2021 so mass adoption will not likely arrive until at the very least the 2030's.
Sean did say that the 'AI' revolution would eventually make the prior revolutions look like nothing.
Unfortunately it's just the way it is.
See the table below for estimates.

Loading…

www.visualcapitalist.com

It took radio and TV at least three decades to go from invention to mainstream use. And once they proliferated, an entirely new sector—mass media—evolved, a key driver of globalization.

Year	Invention	Mass Adoption	# of Years
1890s*	Radio	1920	30
1920s*	TV	1950	30
1970	Internet	1994	24
1971	Email	1997	26
1973	Mobile Phones	2000	27
1994	Smartphones	2010	16
1996	USB	2005	9
2008	Blockchain	???	N/A
2017	Generative AI	???	N/A

The concept of neuromorphic computing was first coined in the 1980s by the scientist Carver Mead, who proposed creating electronic systems inspired by the neural structure of the human brain. This idea was based on the premise that the brain is, in essence, an extremely efficient and versatile information processor.

1980 ... 2025 45 years

Neuromorphic computing: merging artificial intelligence and the human brain​

Neuromorphic computing: merging artificial intelligence and the human brain - Fundación Innovación Bankinter

Neuromorphic computing represents an exciting crossover between technology and biology, a frontier where computer science meets the mysteries of the human brain.

www.fundacionbankinter.org

 

[DingoBorat]

I'm not sure what everyone's problem is...
This is definitely OUR Century.
We just need some more patients.

On another note, has "anyone" heard "anything" from Zeeb0t lately?..
He seems to not be able to (or not wanting to) respond to issues that forum members are having, with the AVZ threads..

Do any of the Founding members, have direct contact with him, to find out what the issue is?
If "you" want, you can contact me on my outlook address.

 

[MDhere]

I am bullish medium to long term.
We need a deal or 2 that gives the market confidence that Neuromorphic AI is going to grow exponentially and the growth has started.
Punters like to get in early.
We have been super early.
The deals do not need to be huge.

Morning Manny, be mindful that (We) that "some" came in around $1.50 -$2ish thanks to the Mercedes declaration which caused a big stir up $$.
What I am wishful for is that Mercedes being a customer on Brainchip webpage, is Mercedes AND BRAINCHIP make an announcement that also shows up in the asx and doesn't fade.

When I was overseas I was blown away by what was going on and it was this rush of buyers (of course because Mercedes announced their involvement )

So the (We) "some" may have invested on the back of one firework display.

I looking forward to the day those "some" can say yep (we) got in super early too

 

[Rskiff]

A thought that has been lingering in the back of my mind is with the share price being so low for so long, then is it to beneficial to BRN management to gain more shares as payment because of the price. ie if share price high less shares issued, thus low share price more issued to compensate. Surely when the next AGM votes on compensation then no more shares to be issued, instead they should be rewarded by share price increase (like us). They have plenty to make it worthwhile. Thoughts?

 

[Pom down under]

Evening Chippers ,

All this chatter of late...last few years ... rabid growth yadar ,yada, yadar.

Our Manigenent need to deliver.

Bought a few more at AU$0.22 the other day, only to see directors offloading stock ....to cover tax ...truely shitefull to say the least.
Que Pom down unders giff of the hound taking a dump.

Share holders giving tax free bonuses for........

Think it was two , possibly three years ago , when asked how thay evenly remotely justify their salaries, answer.... comensurate with a Co returning 20 to 30 mill plus annually.
Well thay have not come even remotely close over the passage of time .

Personally could not give two fiths of F$&#k for the Corn Fery overview, at a cost to shareholders, myself, of $60 odd thousand.

Needed to be delivering solid return by now to even remotely justify what these individuals think thay are worth.

Yes I voted against their renumeration this year also.

Like I said earlier , bought more & will continue to do so , our engineers / tech boffins are first class , manigement ????

Onwards .

Regards,
Esq

Even some of the die hard are losing patience