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Frangipani

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The Cupcake AI Edge server is on the market.
GOOGLE Cupcake - Unigen
According to co pilot:
Pricing: The Cupcake AI Server is priced at €1,499.00 (tax included) on buyzero.de.
Interesting Buyzero shows its sold out. Similar to our Edge Box.

Hold your horses! As far as I can tell, there is no Unigen Cup Cake Edge AI Server with an Akida configuration on the market, yet.

The dropdown menu on https://buyzero.de/en/products/cupcake-ai-server only lets you select the Hailo AI Accelerator configuration so far, which is, however, marked as “sold out”:

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And on the Unigen website itself, the product brief doesn’t even list Akida as a selectable AI Module, yet:


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Frangipani

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Hold your horses! As far as I can tell, there is no Unigen Cup Cake Edge AI Server with an Akida configuration on the market, yet.

The dropdown menu on https://buyzero.de/en/products/cupcake-ai-server only lets you select the Hailo AI Accelerator configuration so far, which is, however, marked as “sold out”:

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And on the Unigen website itself, the product brief doesn’t even list Akida as a selectable AI Module, yet:


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Unigen did already include the Akida AI option in the February 2024 Cupcake User Guide, though:

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Hmmmm ...

What we need to take into consideration is the crucial fact that the product has been in a state of ongoing development for quite a while and this would have played a major part in management's selection of the business model.

For more than 2 years, the company was aware that Akida 2 with TeNNs was in the pipeline, and they would have understood that this would influence the EAPs. The company would have been anxious not to lumber the EAPs with large numbers of "superceded" chips, or at least to give them the choice.

While TeNNs is still not available in silicon, simulation software would have been available for EAPs from the time the patent application was filed, and that would have been undergoing continual improvement. Our partner EAPs would have been in on the secret. EAPs like Valeo and Mercedes have competitive pressures which would have weighed against waiting for Akida 2 SoC, which is one of the reasons why I suspect they have gone ahead with the simulation software as an interim measure. The software was immediately available and readily adaptable as product development progressed.

The development must have been finished, or at least reached a set benchmark, when Anil announced tapeout (about 6 months ago?), but this was then superceded by an overriding announcement that a masked stranger was about to do us a power of good and take over the chip production - since then, not a sausage.

So my Hail Mary speculation is that we are running a parallel software licensing program in parallel with, or in advance of the IP licensing program. Given that this would be in the context of joint developments, the details would be commercial-in-confidence.

All this is derived from my reading of the tea leaves (the crystal ball is being fitted with Gen AI LLMs as we speak).

The Edge Box has sold out, so, with the hindsight of the development of TeNNs, I am reluctant to call it a mistake, or even a tactical error, but it would have been nice to have had more chips for sale.

Gosh - I didn't know I knew that many words!
I presume the UNIGEN Cupcake AI Edge server chewed up a lot of AKIDA 1000 chips..
In Feb'24 Unigen announced it had produced the 1st lot and that rigorous testing had been completed.
 
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Hmmmm ...

What we need to take into consideration is the crucial fact that the product has been in a state of ongoing development for quite a while and this would have played a major part in management's selection of the business model.

For more than 2 years, the company was aware that Akida 2 with TeNNs was in the pipeline, and they would have understood that this would influence the EAPs. The company would have been anxious not to lumber the EAPs with large numbers of "superceded" chips, or at least to give them the choice.

While TeNNs is still not available in silicon, simulation software would have been available for EAPs from the time the patent application was filed, and that would have been undergoing continual improvement. Our partner EAPs would have been in on the secret. EAPs like Valeo and Mercedes have competitive pressures which would have weighed against waiting for Akida 2 SoC, which is one of the reasons why I suspect they have gone ahead with the simulation software as an interim measure. The software was immediately available and readily adaptable as product development progressed.

The development must have been finished, or at least reached a set benchmark, when Anil announced tapeout (about 6 months ago?), but this was then superceded by an overriding announcement that a masked stranger was about to do us a power of good and take over the chip production - since then, not a sausage.

So my Hail Mary speculation is that we are running a parallel software licensing program in parallel with, or in advance of the IP licensing program. Given that this would be in the context of joint developments, the details would be commercial-in-confidence.

All this is derived from my reading of the tea leaves (the crystal ball is being fitted with Gen AI LLMs as we speak).

The Edge Box has sold out, so, with the hindsight of the development of TeNNs, I am reluctant to call it a mistake, or even a tactical error, but it would have been nice to have had more chips for sale.

Gosh - I didn't know I knew that many words!
Well....there is a software licence doc so appears that's an option maybe? Not sure if all encompassing for all software or just certain components.

Haven't snipped the whole thing.

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I presume the UNIGEN Cupcake AI Edge server chewed up a lot of AKIDA 1000 chips..
In Feb'24 Unigen announced it had produced the 1st lot and that rigorous testing had been completed.
So at this stage, we are not being offered in the Unigen Cupcake and the VVDN Edge Box, is sold out.

Either all available chips have been utilised, of which we have no idea of the starting quantity (but at least a few thousand) or there have been delays in product development.

We won't have a clearer picture (although still muddied) until we get the quarterly results, in just under 3 weeks time.

And does anybody have any idea, of what happened, to the AKD1500 chips that were produced?..


Could there have only been enough produced, for development boards, as it was the first run?..
 
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Diogenese

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Well....there is a software licence doc so appears that's an option maybe? Not sure if all encompassing for all software or just certain components.

Haven't snipped the whole thing.

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That is to cover the MetaTF simulation software which is provided to purchasers of Akida chips. It expressly forbids commercial use.

If there are the supposed licences I imagine, they will be under NDA with the EAPs.
 
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Kachoo

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Hi all,

I would take a look at the following companies for any nuggets on the cupcakes

Apexon they own Ailabs inc as the linkedinnsite directs you to their site.


On here it state multiple vendors of OS and Ai.

Also for sales Unigen directs you to the Ailabs site for sales in Asia!
 
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Kachoo

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Good Afternoon Diogenese,

Total including CXA trades is 4,905,565 units .... but yes a very gay effort on their behalf.

Regards,
Esq,
Hey Esq gay or straight I'm not the one to judge peoples life style.

But the trading well until there is some activity or interest in new money they will keep playing this game they do.

It's a left hand to right hand when they stop its usually cause they need to wait out and catch some shares from sellers to balance any deficit. I mean we can't trade at 1/4 a cent but they can. Why can't we do that.

If there was more net buyers then sellers then you would see the price move north then again they do these pump and dumps too but usually that is because there is a party taking a position.

Like last time word was a buyer did take a position over January so yeah that activity excites people and they buy driving the price up with the computer programs still.

Really if you broken-hearted trades down if your tracking them Esq I bet the days you see predominantly the 1/4 cent trades they are red days the 1/2 cent day which is normal you would see a net positive day for the most part. Imo
 
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Frangipani

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Well pop goes your PhD my lad!

Plagiarism from the original source is ok, but from another copier ...?

Are you seriously accusing me of plagiarism now?!
 
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Bravo

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Slade

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Are you seriously accusing me of plagiarism now?!
Stop it. You are embarrassing yourself.
 
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Hey Esq gay or straight I'm not the one to judge peoples life style.

But the trading well until there is some activity or interest in new money they will keep playing this game they do.

It's a left hand to right hand when they stop its usually cause they need to wait out and catch some shares from sellers to balance any deficit. I mean we can't trade at 1/4 a cent but they can. Why can't we do that.

If there was more net buyers then sellers then you would see the price move north then again they do these pump and dumps too but usually that is because there is a party taking a position.

Like last time word was a buyer did take a position over January so yeah that activity excites people and they buy driving the price up with the computer programs still.

Really if you broken-hearted trades down if your tracking them Esq I bet the days you see predominantly the 1/4 cent trades they are red days the 1/2 cent day which is normal you would see a net positive day for the most part. Imo
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