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[Bravo]

Excuse me if I mention Cerence again but here goes. Cerence and Lotus Eletre!

Voice control through advanced speech recognition technology is available in the worl'd first electric hyper SUV, the new Lotus Eletre.

March 30, 2022

Lotus Eletre: the world’s first electric hyper SUV revealed with 600bhp

Sports car firm announces performance, range, charging and design details for its first SUV, along with suggestion of £100k price tag

www.nationalworld.com

March 3, 2021

Cerence and ECARX Team Up On Voice Assistant for Lotus Cars

 

[Slymeat]

I sympathise with your love of driving but give AI progress over say 10-20 years, and it’ll be hard for society to justify a human driver who by then will all be labeled incompetent, to use the same road way with AI. The varaiation between man and machine by then will be akin to justifying drink driving.

Human driving, along with combustion driving will probably be a very popular race track experience

Quite probably, bad sadly, very true @Lex555.

Maybe I'll get me one of those pretend driving wheels so I at least feel like I'm driving.

 

[Bravo]

Excuse me if I mention Cerence again but here goes. Cerence and Lotus Eletre!

Voice control through advanced speech recognition technology is available in the worl'd first electric hyper SUV, the new Lotus Eletre.

March 30, 2022

Lotus Eletre: the world’s first electric hyper SUV revealed with 600bhp

Sports car firm announces performance, range, charging and design details for its first SUV, along with suggestion of £100k price tag

www.nationalworld.com

March 3, 2021

Cerence and ECARX Team Up On Voice Assistant for Lotus Cars

So the Lotus Eletre was designed in the UK – with help from parent company Geely's studios in China. Ni hao, Geely!



Cerence Investor Presentation from 27 August 21

 

[Fact Finder]

I was wondering about the Mercedes Luminar Lidar partnership that was announced in Jan this year & what it meant for the Valeo Mercedes Brainchip connection we have. I came across this article that shows how Luminar in using Valeo sensors for its Lidar.

Mercedes teams with Luminar on lidar sensor technology

Mercedes-Benz and lidar expert Luminar Technologies, Inc. have entered into a partnership to develop future technologies for highly automated driving.

www.eenewsautomotive.com

Business news | January 23, 2022

Mercedes-Benz and lidar expert Luminar Technologies, Inc. have entered into a partnership to develop future technologies for highly automated driving.

By Christoph Hammerschmidt

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The partnership with Luminar is intended to underline Mercedes-Benz’s approach to expanding its network of high-calibre technology partners and suppliers. The aim of the collaboration with Luminar is to further develop the US company’s current lidar technology so that these lidar sensors can be integrated into Mercedes-Benz’s vehicle series production. The aim is also to shorten development cycles and thus ensure the availability of the latest technologies for Mercedes-Benz vehicles.

“Luminar fits perfectly into our existing collaborations with leading and innovative technology companies,” says Markus Schäfer, CTO of Mercedes-Benz AG. “Mercedes-Benz has already reached an important milestone by achieving the SAE Level 3 standard in automated driving. Collaborations are a key part of our strategy.”

As part of this partnership, Mercedes-Benz Luminar will enable continuous product improvements and updates with a data-driven development approach.

Just recently, Mercedes-Benz became the first automotive manufacturer in the world to receive an internationally valid system approval for highly automated driving (SAE Level 3) – a milestone in automotive development. The “Drive Pilot” highly automated driving system is to go into series production this year in the S-Class and the EQS. However, the lidar sensors for these models do not come from Luminar. Instead, Valeo supplies these components. Luminar, on the other hand, supplies its technology not only to Mercedes Benz, but also to Daimler Truck AG and Volvo. In addition, Luminar cooperates with Nvidia and Mobileye – so one can assume that their platforms for autonomous driving are equipped with Luminar lidars.

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/
www.luminartech.com

I am not sure that your conclusion is correct. Luminar on their web site maintain that they have spent the last 7 years building their Lidar from the chip up all in house.

The following video has the speaker from Luminar basically pouring cold water on Valeo's Lidar so I think they are not working together or if they are it will not be for long.

Comparing what Luminar shows their Lidar doing with what I recall Valeo released this year I actually cannot see that it is streets ahead of Valeo if at all.

When I read the web site particularly in relation to positions vacant adds for engineers etc; it is stated as a fact that Luminar is only working with Daimler Truck AG not with Mercedes Benz passenger vehicles and there is not one word about neuromorphic computing or Ai as even a nice have quality in the engineers they want to employ.

When I read about the autonomous parking system that Mercedes Benz has had approved by regulators in the USA, being the first in the world to obtain such an approval, they are working with Valeo no mention of Luminar. It seems unlikely given the length of time it takes to obtain such approvals I cannot see Mercedes Benz running with Valeo only to switch to Luminar mid stream.

Anyway I am happy to be proven completely wrong but I do not think the article you have linked proves a Luminar Valeo relationship other than as competitors.



My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[SharesForBrekky]

This article looks at where we could be headed in the next 20 years and how disruptive technology could impact the career opportunities of future generations. Something to consider in 20 years time for my son who is now 2 and a half.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/careers/the-jobs-that-will-be-the-most-highly-paid-in-2040/news-story/5f4f8edd1cdc40907c1625a597994701

 

[TechGirl]

I am not sure that your conclusion is correct. Luminar on their web site maintain that they have spent the last 7 years building their Lidar from the chip up all in house.

The following video has the speaker from Luminar basically pouring cold water on Valeo's Lidar so I think they are not working together or if they are it will not be for long.

Comparing what Luminar shows their Lidar doing with what I recall Valeo released this year I actually cannot see that it is streets ahead of Valeo if at all.

When I read the web site particularly in relation to positions vacant adds for engineers etc; it is stated as a fact that Luminar is only working with Daimler Truck AG not with Mercedes Benz passenger vehicles and there is not one word about neuromorphic computing or Ai as even a nice have quality in the engineers they want to employ.

When I read about the autonomous parking system that Mercedes Benz has had approved by regulators in the USA, being the first in the world to obtain such an approval, they are working with Valeo no mention of Luminar. It seems unlikely given the length of time it takes to obtain such approvals I cannot see Mercedes Benz running with Valeo only to switch to Luminar mid stream.

Anyway I am happy to be proven completely wrong but I do not think the article you have linked proves a Luminar Valeo relationship other than as competitors.



My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

Okey Dokey, thanks FF

 

[Stable Genius]

I am not sure that your conclusion is correct. Luminar on their web site maintain that they have spent the last 7 years building their Lidar from the chip up all in house.

The following video has the speaker from Luminar basically pouring cold water on Valeo's Lidar so I think they are not working together or if they are it will not be for long.

Comparing what Luminar shows their Lidar doing with what I recall Valeo released this year I actually cannot see that it is streets ahead of Valeo if at all.

When I read the web site particularly in relation to positions vacant adds for engineers etc; it is stated as a fact that Luminar is only working with Daimler Truck AG not with Mercedes Benz passenger vehicles and there is not one word about neuromorphic computing or Ai as even a nice have quality in the engineers they want to employ.

When I read about the autonomous parking system that Mercedes Benz has had approved by regulators in the USA, being the first in the world to obtain such an approval, they are working with Valeo no mention of Luminar. It seems unlikely given the length of time it takes to obtain such approvals I cannot see Mercedes Benz running with Valeo only to switch to Luminar mid stream.

Anyway I am happy to be proven completely wrong but I do not think the article you have linked proves a Luminar Valeo relationship other than as competitors.



My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

I’ve been confused about the Valeo, Cerence, luminar connection for a while.

Here’s an earlier post where MB has a stake in luminar and plans to put them in their production vehicles:

BRN Discussion Ongoing

Trying to see the sarcasm in the post but can't? Maybe you didn't understand the meaning. What I'm saying is, many come here to post about BRN, but so far there are lots of (including myself) people posting abut getting out of hotcrapper. So if we keep the BRN threads clean of that stuff and...

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[Stable Genius]

I’ve been confused about the Valeo, Cerence, luminar connection for a while.

Here’s an earlier post where MB has a stake in luminar and plans to put them in their production vehicles:

BRN Discussion Ongoing

Trying to see the sarcasm in the post but can't? Maybe you didn't understand the meaning. What I'm saying is, many come here to post about BRN, but so far there are lots of (including myself) people posting abut getting out of hotcrapper. So if we keep the BRN threads clean of that stuff and...

thestockexchange.com.au

Others involved with Valeo collaboration; big names!

 

[TechGirl]

I’ve been confused about the Valeo, Cerence, luminar connection for a while.

Here’s an earlier post where MB has a stake in luminar and plans to put them in their production vehicles:

BRN Discussion Ongoing

Trying to see the sarcasm in the post but can't? Maybe you didn't understand the meaning. What I'm saying is, many come here to post about BRN, but so far there are lots of (including myself) people posting abut getting out of hotcrapper. So if we keep the BRN threads clean of that stuff and...

thestockexchange.com.au

hmmm interesting

 

[Reuben]

response from Luminar

I reached out to Luminar to see if they are working with us.
If they werent working with us - I would have expected an answer like No, we arent working with Brainchip or No, we arent working with Brainchip at this point (Thats what WBT had replied about a year or 2 back). This reply makes me wonder ???

 

[Stable Genius]

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I reached out to Luminar to see if they are working with us.
If they werent working with us - I would have expected an answer like No, we arent working with Brainchip or No, we arent working with Brainchip at this point (Thats what WBT had replied about a year or 2 back). This reply makes me wonder ???

Great work, straight to the source!

Trey’s reply might’ve well just thrown fuel onto a fire!

I’m kinda hoping for no announcements until after Wednesday next week please.

Cheers

 

[Lex555]

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I reached out to Luminar to see if they are working with us.
If they werent working with us - I would have expected an answer like No, we arent working with Brainchip or No, we arent working with Brainchip at this point (Thats what WBT had replied about a year or 2 back). This reply makes me wonder ???

Yep I interpret that as an evasive answer too. They could have easily said a straight up no.

 

[Dhm]

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I reached out to Luminar to see if they are working with us.
If they werent working with us - I would have expected an answer like No, we arent working with Brainchip or No, we arent working with Brainchip at this point (Thats what WBT had replied about a year or 2 back). This reply makes me wonder ???

Ha! Thats a coincidence, I did too.

 

[Deleted member 118]

Look who I found on the LTR thread on HC

Is that person kitty/unknown soldier?

 

[Bravo]

Ha! Thats a coincidence, I did too.
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I suppose you could always reply to Trey very discretely with this snippet here. Just to let him know quite subtly of course, that the significant practical applications may not be as far off as he thinks.


PS: As an investor with Luminar I'm sure you want them to get jiggy with the best tech.

Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX Concept: Did You See This Coming, Elon?

The establishment strikes back.

www.motortrend.com

 

[Dhm]

I was really surprised at her comment about neuromorphic. She said:

I did spend a fair amount of time at Intel where we worked on neuromorphic computing chips (I believe Akida is using a neuromorphic framework). It’s a very interesting and promising field of research, but I think significant practical applications are a ways off.

I don't think so. They are here, now and anyone in the profession that doesn't know and understand that will be an afterthought in computing history.

 

[Stable Genius]

I suppose you could always reply to Trey very discretely with this snippet here. Just to let him know quite subtly of course, that the significant practical applications may not be as far off as he thinks.





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Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX Concept: Did You See This Coming, Elon?

The establishment strikes back.

www.motortrend.com

I think Treys confused between Intel’s Loihi abilities and Brainchips Akida!

His second reply was a bit better thought out than his first one which was a non-answer!

I’m only joking…more a dot than a link!

 

[newpunta]

I have bin watching the share trades today ........... can't help myself and just have to say
wat a load of cock n bull.
Refuse to be shaken ........ and again forced to buy when that order was hit upon at .905 recently.
Not complaining cos my holding keeps incresing.
Contrarian thinking is my nature ............. but this my friends is just common sense to me

 

[Fact Finder]

I think Treys confused between Intel’s Loihi abilities and Brainchips Akida!

His second reply was a bit better thought out than his first one which was a non-answer!
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I’m only joking…more a dot than a link!

I think Trey is a master of diversion.

I do not know who Trey is at Luminar but if Luminar is trying to corner the Mercedes Benz Lidar use market, as is clear they are, then I cannot believe that they have not read most if not everything there is to know about Mercedes and the EQXX and in so doing stumbled across the fact it was using neuromorphic computing in some form. The reference to Mercedes being in bed with Nvidia for its GPU is an attempt at slight of hand as the GPU is not neuromorphic compute.

The biggest clue in all of this is for some reason Trey with all the neuromorphic experience gained at Intel has been brought over to Luminar to do what, Von Neumann compute. This is not logical. There is one solid fact in this and that is Intel's Loihi is definitely a ways off from having a practical application. Trey knows about AKIDA and we know Brainchip employees get on with and have friendships with Intel employees who work in the neuromorphic space. Trey is not credible as to the lack of knowledge about AKIDA being commercially available.

I do not believe that Luminar is working with Valeo however I am not convinced that Brainchip is not working with Valeo or Luminar. Perhaps @Diogenese can find us a patent or two where Luminar detail the chip that they have used to build their unique Lidar from the ground up.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[Bravo]

Hey ummm.. this doesn't look right at all... When I clicked on the "neuromorphic computing" link in this article, I fully expected it to land on something describing BrianChip, but instead it takes me to Intel???!!!!!!!!

Better call Saul! Or if Saul's not available, perhaps Fact Finder could assist?

Extract
The EQXX still uses Mercedes' voice control system, but it's now infused with AI. Working with a machine learning company, the car uses neuromorphic computing which thinks more like a human to reduce energy consumption while running commands.

Mercedes-Benz's Vision EQXX is an idealist's concept EV

It's sporty, efficient, road-trip friendly, and futuristic.

mashable.com