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Warren Buffett has decided to get out of TSMC completely.
"Asked to explain his decision on an analyst call this month, the billionaire said: "I don't like its location, and I've reevaluated that."
"Despite the share sale, Buffett lauded TSMC as "one of the best-managed companies and [most] important companies in the world."
Looks like China has him spooked.
"Asked to explain his decision on an analyst call this month, the billionaire said: "I don't like its location, and I've reevaluated that."
"Despite the share sale, Buffett lauded TSMC as "one of the best-managed companies and [most] important companies in the world."
Looks like China has him spooked.
buena suerte :-)
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A piece about LiDARs from our friends at EETimes the automotive LiDAR market for 2027 is expected to reach US $2.0 billion, up from US$38 million in 2021. What emerging trends do you see in LiDAR technologies? 
“We will see different generations of sensors and computing that will be more performant, enabling different levels of autonomy,” says Yole Intelligence analyst Pierrick Boulay.
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Sensors have become prevalent in advanced driver-assistance (ADAS) and autonomous-driving systems to enhance passengers’ safety and protect vulnerable road users. A combination of cameras, radars and LiDARs is now used to scan the vehicle’s environment, process data in real time and respond more quickly and accurately than human drivers can.
To gain an objective picture of the current market trends in automotive cameras, radars and LiDARs, EE Times Europe consulted Pierrick Boulay, senior technology and market analyst in the Photonics and Sensing Division at Yole Intelligence, part of Yole Group. Pierre Cambou, principal analyst in the Photonics and Sensing Division at Yole Intelligence, also contributed to the analysis.
Yole analyst Pierrick Boulay
EE Times Europe: More sensors are being deployed in the vehicle to respond to safety issues proactively, but the sensor count can’t increase indefinitely. Will sensors be more specific in that we will see sensors for short-, mid- and long-range applications?
Pierrick Boulay: It is true that the number of sensors cannot increase indefinitely, for cost reasons but also for integration reasons. Nobody wants to have a car that looks like a robotaxi. Each sensor must be perfectly integrated or hidden, like radars. There are already sensors in cars dedicated to short-, mid- or long-range applications. In cars, radars can be dedicated to short-/mid-range applications and to long-range applications. These are different radars, implemented in different locations of the car. LiDARs implemented in cars are mostly for long-range, but in the future, we also expect to see short-range LiDARs for use cases such as automated lane change or inter-urban driving applications between highways—or even for city driving, where it is necessary to monitor the surroundings of the car perfectly to avoid any blind zones. We will see different generations of sensors and computing that will be more performant, enabling different levels of autonomy.
Boulay: Thermal cameras are used only in a few car models due to their high cost and low resolution. The primary use case is to detect pedestrians or animals on the road. The growth of such cameras could only be expected with a lower price point. Today, thermal cameras are still very expensive, but they are starting to be implemented in AVs such as Waymo, Cruise and Zoox. Probably a few more years are needed to make them mainstream ADAS.
For visible imagers, the trend is to increase the resolution. A few years ago, the forward ADAS camera had a resolution of 1.3 megapixels, but we are now already at 8 megapixels, and the resolution is still expected to increase. This is not the only trend. The frame rate is also increasing, with 60 frames per second today, while some players are already looking for a higher frame rate. Dynamic range is also important to enable operation in low-light conditions and rapid transitions from low light to intense light when exiting a tunnel, for example. We can also highlight the development of cameras to ignore flickering light. For example, traffic lights are made from LEDs, and the way LEDs are driven induces a light flicker that could be misinterpreted by the processing camera.
EETE: Visible cameras can fail to detect dangerous situations at night or in bad weather conditions, where thermal cameras are very efficient. Will we see them work increasingly in tandem?
Boulay: It is true that visible cameras are not good in low light or bad weather. Cameras in the far infrared (FIR) or short-wave infrared (SWIR) could solve this issue. But these cameras are still too expensive, and their performance needs to be improved to implement them in cars.
No single modality can solve the AV technology challenge. Cameras can improve in resolution, speed and dynamic range, but then the problem is downstream real-time computing power. New approaches, such as event-based cameras, could bring additional performance, but then developers must rethink their systems from the ground up. Regardless, cameras will have to work in tandem with 4D radars, LiDAR, and Inertial/GNSS units. One thing is certain: Advances in ADAS and AV technology will require more cameras and more diversified camera types.
Boulay: The main drivers for radar implementation are linked to safety features, like AEB (Autonomous Emergency Braking) functionality, that work in coordination with the forward ADAS camera. For many years, radars have been used for blind spot detection at the rear of the car. More recently, a new driver for radar has been linked to safety in complex intersections. To help solve this issue, OEMs increasingly are implementing front-corner radar. A final driver is linked to in-cabin sensing, where the radar will be used for child presence detection. CPD is the only technology to detect a child even if the child is covered by a blanket.
EETE: Who is leading the way? Will giant tech companies change the game through massive investments? Are any challengers arising?
Boulay: The leading players are Continental, Bosch, Hella (now Forvia), Denso, Aptiv and Veoneer. These six players have ~80% of the market. New players are rising, like Arbe, Vayyar, Uhnder and Metawave. They are focusing on the development of imaging radars that can provide a better angular resolution and, therefore, a better perception of objects.
EETE: Are you seeing interesting technology synergies?
Boulay: In addition to integration, there has been fundamental evolution in RF performance. Initially, radars operated with analog beamforming and mechanical steering before moving to digital beamforming (full-scene illumination). In the digital beamforming era, MIMO techniques have been introduced, increasing the virtual aperture while keeping a reasonable physical size. Currently, MIMO scaling is offered by all players in the industry (from 0.2k to 2k pixels) to achieve below 1° angular resolution, 4D imaging radar. Still, the form factor and the cost matter; thus, we expect a sweet spot to emerge. With that, the evolution of RF in radar is likely coming to an end, unless frequencies beyond 77 GHz are used. In next-generation radars, the focus will shift toward radar signal computing. That is why the industry has started investigating machine learning and AI algorithms on radar signals.
Boulay: First of all, the type of components inside LiDARs is changing. For example, mechanical scanning LiDARs that use EELs, APDs and an FPGA for processing are progressively transitioning to VCSEL, SiPMs and ASICs. These changes are improving the range, the resolution and, therefore, the data quality. Regarding the LiDAR types, there is also a transition from hybrid solid-state LiDAR with a mechanical moving part to pure solid-state LiDAR with no mechanical moving parts. In the next five to 10 years, we also expect the emergence of optical-based LiDAR using the FMCW [frequency-modulated continuous wave] principle for ranging and optical scanning.
EETE: Who is leading the way? Are Chinese players pushing?
Boulay: In the LiDAR market, few players are really able to deliver products to OEMs. Valeo is a clear leader and has been in mass production since 2018 with Audi. Behind Valeo, we find Chinese companies, such as Hesai and Robosense. These three players dominate the market today, but others such as Innovusion, Continental and Huawei are also delivering LiDAR in lower volumes. Luminar and Innoviz are still not in mass production.
EETE: LiDAR was the dominant category in terms of financing rounds and the amount of capital raised in 2020 and 2021. How is it today?
Boulay: Investments in LiDAR companies totaled more than US$2.6 billion in 2021 but were more than 10 times lower in 2022. We think that investors are looking more carefully at where to invest. They want to invest in the right startup with technology that can be produced in high volume at low cost while meeting automotive requirements. At the same time, investors are looking for companies that can deliver LiDARs to OEMs and avoid the false promises and dreams sold by some LiDAR companies in the past.
EETE: Are we going to see consolidation in that space?
Boulay: Yes, clearly. If we look at the camera and radar market for automotive, four to five players represent 75% of the market. In the mid- to long-term, we expect similar dynamics in the LiDAR space. Consolidation between LiDAR manufacturers like Velodyne/Ouster will continue, or Tier-1 companies will acquire LiDAR companies. Others will die or change their focus to industrial applications, for example, to generate revenue more rapidly.
EETE: What are we still missing with perception sensors?
Boulay: There is a clear need to reduce the cost of LiDAR sensors to implement automated driving features, but the cost is also linked to volume. Today, volumes are too low, and higher volumes are essential to significantly reducing costs. Also, more development will be needed to enable automated driving in difficult weather conditions. Recently, Waymo published a video in which robotaxis could drive autonomously without a security driver under rainy conditions. Therefore, it is possible, and more work is needed by automotive players. It will be linked to the sensor hardware and the associated perception software.
- EETimes
- Europe
Cameras, Radars, LiDARs: Sensing the Road Ahead
May 16, 2023 Anne-Françoise Pelé“We will see different generations of sensors and computing that will be more performant, enabling different levels of autonomy,” says Yole Intelligence analyst Pierrick Boulay.
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Sensors have become prevalent in advanced driver-assistance (ADAS) and autonomous-driving systems to enhance passengers’ safety and protect vulnerable road users. A combination of cameras, radars and LiDARs is now used to scan the vehicle’s environment, process data in real time and respond more quickly and accurately than human drivers can.
To gain an objective picture of the current market trends in automotive cameras, radars and LiDARs, EE Times Europe consulted Pierrick Boulay, senior technology and market analyst in the Photonics and Sensing Division at Yole Intelligence, part of Yole Group. Pierre Cambou, principal analyst in the Photonics and Sensing Division at Yole Intelligence, also contributed to the analysis.
EE Times Europe: More sensors are being deployed in the vehicle to respond to safety issues proactively, but the sensor count can’t increase indefinitely. Will sensors be more specific in that we will see sensors for short-, mid- and long-range applications?
Pierrick Boulay: It is true that the number of sensors cannot increase indefinitely, for cost reasons but also for integration reasons. Nobody wants to have a car that looks like a robotaxi. Each sensor must be perfectly integrated or hidden, like radars. There are already sensors in cars dedicated to short-, mid- or long-range applications. In cars, radars can be dedicated to short-/mid-range applications and to long-range applications. These are different radars, implemented in different locations of the car. LiDARs implemented in cars are mostly for long-range, but in the future, we also expect to see short-range LiDARs for use cases such as automated lane change or inter-urban driving applications between highways—or even for city driving, where it is necessary to monitor the surroundings of the car perfectly to avoid any blind zones. We will see different generations of sensors and computing that will be more performant, enabling different levels of autonomy.
Cameras
EETE: According to Yole, there were 2.6 cameras per car produced in 2021 on average, and the number is projected to rise to 4.6 cameras per car by 2027. Advanced prototypes presented today are typically fitted with 11 to 12 cameras, and the roadmap extends beyond 20 cameras per car for the long-awaited consumer AVs. What are the technology and market trends in thermal, visible-imaging and night-vision cameras?Boulay: Thermal cameras are used only in a few car models due to their high cost and low resolution. The primary use case is to detect pedestrians or animals on the road. The growth of such cameras could only be expected with a lower price point. Today, thermal cameras are still very expensive, but they are starting to be implemented in AVs such as Waymo, Cruise and Zoox. Probably a few more years are needed to make them mainstream ADAS.
For visible imagers, the trend is to increase the resolution. A few years ago, the forward ADAS camera had a resolution of 1.3 megapixels, but we are now already at 8 megapixels, and the resolution is still expected to increase. This is not the only trend. The frame rate is also increasing, with 60 frames per second today, while some players are already looking for a higher frame rate. Dynamic range is also important to enable operation in low-light conditions and rapid transitions from low light to intense light when exiting a tunnel, for example. We can also highlight the development of cameras to ignore flickering light. For example, traffic lights are made from LEDs, and the way LEDs are driven induces a light flicker that could be misinterpreted by the processing camera.
EETE: Visible cameras can fail to detect dangerous situations at night or in bad weather conditions, where thermal cameras are very efficient. Will we see them work increasingly in tandem?
Boulay: It is true that visible cameras are not good in low light or bad weather. Cameras in the far infrared (FIR) or short-wave infrared (SWIR) could solve this issue. But these cameras are still too expensive, and their performance needs to be improved to implement them in cars.
No single modality can solve the AV technology challenge. Cameras can improve in resolution, speed and dynamic range, but then the problem is downstream real-time computing power. New approaches, such as event-based cameras, could bring additional performance, but then developers must rethink their systems from the ground up. Regardless, cameras will have to work in tandem with 4D radars, LiDAR, and Inertial/GNSS units. One thing is certain: Advances in ADAS and AV technology will require more cameras and more diversified camera types.
Radar
EETE: According to Yole, the automotive radar platform market reached US$5.8 billion in 2021 and is expected to grow at 14% CAGR to US$12.8 billion by 2027. What are the main drivers for growth?Boulay: The main drivers for radar implementation are linked to safety features, like AEB (Autonomous Emergency Braking) functionality, that work in coordination with the forward ADAS camera. For many years, radars have been used for blind spot detection at the rear of the car. More recently, a new driver for radar has been linked to safety in complex intersections. To help solve this issue, OEMs increasingly are implementing front-corner radar. A final driver is linked to in-cabin sensing, where the radar will be used for child presence detection. CPD is the only technology to detect a child even if the child is covered by a blanket.
EETE: Who is leading the way? Will giant tech companies change the game through massive investments? Are any challengers arising?
Boulay: The leading players are Continental, Bosch, Hella (now Forvia), Denso, Aptiv and Veoneer. These six players have ~80% of the market. New players are rising, like Arbe, Vayyar, Uhnder and Metawave. They are focusing on the development of imaging radars that can provide a better angular resolution and, therefore, a better perception of objects.
EETE: Are you seeing interesting technology synergies?
Boulay: In addition to integration, there has been fundamental evolution in RF performance. Initially, radars operated with analog beamforming and mechanical steering before moving to digital beamforming (full-scene illumination). In the digital beamforming era, MIMO techniques have been introduced, increasing the virtual aperture while keeping a reasonable physical size. Currently, MIMO scaling is offered by all players in the industry (from 0.2k to 2k pixels) to achieve below 1° angular resolution, 4D imaging radar. Still, the form factor and the cost matter; thus, we expect a sweet spot to emerge. With that, the evolution of RF in radar is likely coming to an end, unless frequencies beyond 77 GHz are used. In next-generation radars, the focus will shift toward radar signal computing. That is why the industry has started investigating machine learning and AI algorithms on radar signals.
LiDAR
EETE: According to Yole Intelligence, the automotive LiDAR market for 2027 is expected to reach US $2.0 billion, up from US$38 million in 2021. What emerging trends do you see in LiDAR technologies?Boulay: First of all, the type of components inside LiDARs is changing. For example, mechanical scanning LiDARs that use EELs, APDs and an FPGA for processing are progressively transitioning to VCSEL, SiPMs and ASICs. These changes are improving the range, the resolution and, therefore, the data quality. Regarding the LiDAR types, there is also a transition from hybrid solid-state LiDAR with a mechanical moving part to pure solid-state LiDAR with no mechanical moving parts. In the next five to 10 years, we also expect the emergence of optical-based LiDAR using the FMCW [frequency-modulated continuous wave] principle for ranging and optical scanning.
EETE: Who is leading the way? Are Chinese players pushing?
Boulay: In the LiDAR market, few players are really able to deliver products to OEMs. Valeo is a clear leader and has been in mass production since 2018 with Audi. Behind Valeo, we find Chinese companies, such as Hesai and Robosense. These three players dominate the market today, but others such as Innovusion, Continental and Huawei are also delivering LiDAR in lower volumes. Luminar and Innoviz are still not in mass production.
EETE: LiDAR was the dominant category in terms of financing rounds and the amount of capital raised in 2020 and 2021. How is it today?
Boulay: Investments in LiDAR companies totaled more than US$2.6 billion in 2021 but were more than 10 times lower in 2022. We think that investors are looking more carefully at where to invest. They want to invest in the right startup with technology that can be produced in high volume at low cost while meeting automotive requirements. At the same time, investors are looking for companies that can deliver LiDARs to OEMs and avoid the false promises and dreams sold by some LiDAR companies in the past.
EETE: Are we going to see consolidation in that space?
Boulay: Yes, clearly. If we look at the camera and radar market for automotive, four to five players represent 75% of the market. In the mid- to long-term, we expect similar dynamics in the LiDAR space. Consolidation between LiDAR manufacturers like Velodyne/Ouster will continue, or Tier-1 companies will acquire LiDAR companies. Others will die or change their focus to industrial applications, for example, to generate revenue more rapidly.
EETE: What are we still missing with perception sensors?
Boulay: There is a clear need to reduce the cost of LiDAR sensors to implement automated driving features, but the cost is also linked to volume. Today, volumes are too low, and higher volumes are essential to significantly reducing costs. Also, more development will be needed to enable automated driving in difficult weather conditions. Recently, Waymo published a video in which robotaxis could drive autonomously without a security driver under rainy conditions. Therefore, it is possible, and more work is needed by automotive players. It will be linked to the sensor hardware and the associated perception software.
Dhm
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Hi @Sirod69 is Innovez being mentioned because you believe we are somehow entwined with them? Are you highlighting because of “a major compute platform“? If so I would be happy to see that unfold.
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17 May, 2023, 06:45 ET
Innoviz Expands Collaboration with a Major Customer, Adding InnovizTwo for New Light Commercial Vehicle
TEL AVIV, Israel, May 17, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Innoviz Technologies Ltd. (NASDAQ: INVZ) (the "Company" or "Innoviz"), a leading Tier-1 supplier of high-performance automotive grade LiDAR sensors and perception software, today announced that a major existing leading global automotive customer aims to expand its use of the InnovizTwo LiDAR to an existing light commercial vehicle program. With a mid-decade SOP target, the program is on an accelerated track, with an agreed framework, pending finalizing technical requirements and commercial terms. Potential financial contributions from this program are anticipated to begin this year and played an important role in the decision to update previously communicated 2023 commercial and financial targets.
- Fast-moving new program with an accelerated timeline
- Framework agreed, pending final requirements and commercial terms
- Strong financial contribution, expected start of production mid-decade
- Collaboration with a major compute platform provider, may lead to additional opportunities
Innoviz Expands Collaboration with a Major Customer, Adding InnovizTwo for New Light Commercial Vehicle
The Company will provide an update on its first quarter earnings call scheduled for today, May 17, 2023.
In addition, this collaboration includes an important integration with a major compute platform that we believe could lead to additional expansion opportunities in the future. Innoviz believes that working with the top autonomy platform partners should enable a faster time to market, accelerate the customer evaluation process, allow more seamless integration with other parts of the software stack, and position Innoviz well in its new customer acquisition efforts.
"Today's news marks a critical milestone in validating our strategy and highlighting the value of our technology," said Omer Keilaf, Innoviz Co-Founder and CEO. "An important part of our long-term business plan has been to show that we can gain a foothold with a large customer and earn the right to become their LiDAR vendor for multiple vehicles in their lineup. This expected expansion of business with one of our largest customers could achieve that, while also offering a meaningful financial contribution for 2023 and beyond."
Keilaf further added, "We are extremely excited by the momentum we have seen in our pipeline year-to-date and are encouraged by a noticeable step-up in customer activity that further reinforces our belief that LiDAR deployments are starting to accelerate."
Innoviz Expands Collaboration with a Major Customer, Adding InnovizTwo for New Light Commercial Vehicle
/PRNewswire/ -- Innoviz Technologies Ltd. (NASDAQ: INVZ) (the "Company" or "Innoviz"), a leading Tier-1 supplier of high-performance automotive grade LiDAR...www.prnewswire.com
MDhere
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Nice one @chapman89 
My love interest Tata doing great work.
2d
Yes. We work on Akida too.
My love interest Tata doing great work. Arijit MukherjeeAuthorPrincipal Scientist, Embedded Devices & Intelligent Systems at TCS Research
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Yes. We work on Akida too.
HopalongPetrovski
I'm Spartacus!
Hands up.
Who's got their line in the water for 500,000 at 42 cents?
Is that you again Damo???
Who's got their line in the water for 500,000 at 42 cents?
Is that you again Damo???
Good chance this is us imo dyor
wccftech.com
www.nextplatform.com
C-DAC Develops India's First Indigenous Arm-Based CPUs: Flagship AUM Chip With 96 Cores, 96 GB HBM3, 320W TDP, 2024 Launch
C-DAC is prepping up India's first HPC CPU, the AUM, which will feature 96 Arm cores, 96 GB HBM3 & a TDP of up to 320W.
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India Declares CPU Independence With Aum HPC Processor
At the moment, the most powerful Arm processor on the planet is the 48-core A64FX processor from Fujitsu, which was created as the heavily vectored
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How can it be us when neither company have bought rights to the IP? Any connection to the 2 companies that have?Good chance this is us imo dyor
C-DAC Develops India's First Indigenous Arm-Based CPUs: Flagship AUM Chip With 96 Cores, 96 GB HBM3, 320W TDP, 2024 Launch
C-DAC is prepping up India's first HPC CPU, the AUM, which will feature 96 Arm cores, 96 GB HBM3 & a TDP of up to 320W.
Sorry to be the bad guy, but unless their is a connection to Mega chips or Renesas then no company is using us. IMO.
alwaysgreen
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Hands up.
Who's got their line in the water for 500,000 at 42 cents?
Is that you again Damo???
They are only currently " prepping " for now and are going to eventually use 96 ARM cores .... so hopfully when they do go fully ahead with production lines, we BRN/will be going hand in hand with ARM ???? !!! Hmmmm
Damo4
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Hands up.
Who's got their line in the water for 500,000 at 42 cents?
Is that you again Damo???
Hop, I wish, AG hitting the nail on the head hahah
HopalongPetrovski
I'm Spartacus!
Welcome to that club too, Brother.Hop, I wish, AG hitting the nail on the head hahah
Jeeeezus. We can't all be wrong!
Guess we'll all be either living in penthouses or under bridges soon enough.
Fastback6666
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I half expect a one or maybe two decent announcements/discussions at the AGM that has some info in relation to revenue to come. I am sure they will be very careful on this topic as last AGM was probably a bit loose on that subject with expectations elevated for the FY which did not really meet expectations.
Shaun and the Board know that revenue is what is needed now at this point of the game.....lets hope there is something there of substance to stop this SP treading water here or even slipping to a lower support level over this next FY.
If they have some quantifying information in this revenue space I do wonder if they will issue an ASX announcement the day before or morning of the AGM like I have seen other companies to do - as you have to make it pubic before discussing it at an AGM.
Watching with anticipation.....
Shaun and the Board know that revenue is what is needed now at this point of the game.....lets hope there is something there of substance to stop this SP treading water here or even slipping to a lower support level over this next FY.
If they have some quantifying information in this revenue space I do wonder if they will issue an ASX announcement the day before or morning of the AGM like I have seen other companies to do - as you have to make it pubic before discussing it at an AGM.
Watching with anticipation.....
GDJR69
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I at least want to live under a bridge that has Akida movement detection on it . . .Welcome to that club too, Brother.
Jeeeezus. We can't all be wrong!
Guess we'll all be either living in penthouses or under bridges soon enough.
Baron Von Ricta
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I'm happy to live under a bridge.Welcome to that club too, Brother.
Jeeeezus. We can't all be wrong!
Guess we'll all be either living in penthouses or under bridges soon enough.
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Euks
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Interesting company that Brainchip follows….
KULR - seems like we could fit hand in hand
www.kulrtechnology.com
KULR - seems like we could fit hand in hand
KULR: Space Technology Transforming the World of Electronics and Battery Safety
Our core technology is a NASA co-developed, vertically aligned carbon fiber thermal interface material that is lighter, more flexible, and more efficie...
www.kulrtechnology.com
davidfitz
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Ah, to dream
German car makers embrace brave new world of software-driven vehicles
Munich-based BMW wants to link hardware and software together with large IT groups. However, the car giant is careful to maintain sovereignty over the data and to be able to link the systems itself so as not to become dependent on individual partners.
"We are not afraid of tech players at all because we work with all of them," CEO Oliver Zipse said in January at the CES tech show in Las Vegas.
These include not only the IT giants, but also many highly specialised start-ups. Cars are not just smartphones on wheels, they are complex, Zipse stressed, and this poses a hurdle for established tech companies.
Newk R
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AGM
Your board and CEO are doing a great job...........................................Our board and CEO are doing a great job.
You don't need to see any ASX announcements................................We don't need to see any ASX announcements.
You must reward the board with share placements..........................We must reward the board with share placements.
Nothing to see here, move on....................................................................Nothing to see here, let's move on.
Your board and CEO are doing a great job...........................................Our board and CEO are doing a great job.
You don't need to see any ASX announcements................................We don't need to see any ASX announcements.
You must reward the board with share placements..........................We must reward the board with share placements.
Nothing to see here, move on....................................................................Nothing to see here, let's move on.
HopalongPetrovski
I'm Spartacus!
Yeah, let's move on and start generating huge revenues which will, in time, be reflected by the share price and eventually dividends to share holders!
Or, we could get distracted and bogged down in court cases, undermine our boards and managers credibility, slow down and disincentivize our staff and potentially add more years before we become solvent, ubiquitous and an industry standard.
Let's move forward, before the behemoths catch up.
If you want to examine entrails, buy a goat.
Don't cut off your nose to spite your face!
Who gains from that?
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