BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Beebo]

Akida 1000: got us the DATE with EAPs
Akida 1500: will get them to fall in LOVE with our IP
Akida 2000: will get us to MULTIPLY

How’s that for excitement?

 

[latnrollah]

Hi!
Longtime listener first time caller.

Not sure if this has been shared

14:32 “expecting revenue this year for sure”

11:33 “Primary vertices we are having success in certainly Medical, certainly industrial and certainly automobile “

12:00 “(Mercedes) We aren’t allowed to talk about our relationship there”

16:30 “interesting use cases such as drones aswell”

 

[DingoBorat]

Brn not showing in top gainers again on comsuc!

The Top 5 is updated every 20 minutes.

You don't expect the ASX200 Top 5, to be updated "live" on the ASX website, in the year 2023 do you ..

 

[Mugen74]

ts been longer than 20mins DB. I guess Comsuc must have "accidently" missed the rise.

 

[Diogenese]

Yes.

Are you implying that the slide yesterday, wasn't a result of manipulation and merely innumerable rusted on share holders, deciding that "then" was the time to throw in the towel?

Remember the actual number of shorts taken out and intelligently utilised, is only one mechanism for manipulating a company's share price.

It's definitely like a shot of nitrous oxide for the other measures though.

There's also more than one party's interest, in a lower share price.

LDA Capital, being the most prominent, at this time.
Algorithms can manipulate a share price, without ever touching a borrowed share.

Also remember "Big guys" can see "Stop losses" which just appear to them as "Sell orders".
They don't "blindly" hunt for them.

People should set alerts and then decide to act, if they are of the type who either can't manage their investment closely, or are concerned about fluctuations in the share price.

Also those "reported shorts" are just that.
What is "reported".

Anyone who thinks we're playing on a fair and level playing field, is not paying attention..

Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Brn not showing in top gainers again on comsuc!

There now Mugen

S&P/ASX 200 top 5​

GAINS

CODE / NAME	LAST PRICE	$ / % CHANGE
ORA ORORA LIMITED	3.340	0.440 (15.172%)
SHL SONIC HEALTHCARE LIMITED	32.885	3.825 (13.162%)
BRN BRAINCHIP HOLDINGS LTD	0.565	0.055 (10.784%)
MFG MAGELLAN FINANCIAL GROUP LIMITED	10.330	0.880 (9.312%)
ABP ABACUS PROPERTY GROUP	3.110	0.260 (9.122%)

 

[buena suerte :-)]

Not at all. Just interested to see this against the total volume.

For instance if the total volume was 9million and the short volume is 5.6m(as is the case) then it tells a much bigger story. IMO of course

Hey AusEire ............ total traded shares was 45,504,376

 

[Fastback6666]

Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

It's shocking for sure - but into's see it as good financial planning

 

[DingoBorat]

Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

Technically, yes.

But if the honey's there and the bees have no sting..

What would you do, if you were a bear?


This should be good!

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

You can actually legally get Level 2 which opens the order book flow so have a better idea of where trades and orders are moving.

Whilst Brokers etc will have more sophisticated systems, this is available to retailers as well.

 

[Bravo]

Here's a thought! What if we drew up a list of questions that Rob might be able to shed some light on in an upcoming podcast? Obviously they should only be questions that he can answer without getting into NDA territory. I'll start with the following suggestions:

• Will Akida 1500 have LSTM and transformers as per the original roadmap?
• In what sort of capacity might Akida 1000 still be useful that differentiates it from Akida 1500?
• Do you think the Australian Government should mandate the use of Akida as a part of its net zero by 2050 plans and which politician should we stalk to about this?
• Do you think most of us will be able to retire in a few years?
• Does the tablecloth actually belong to anyone on the BOD or does it get locked up in the store-room for the next conference?

 

[Diogenese]

You can actually legally get Level 2 which opens the order book flow so have a better idea of where trades and orders are moving.

Whilst Brokers etc will have more sophisticated systems, this is available to retailers as well.


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Proprietary information is not public information.

Someone posted a podcast on S1041A of the Corportaions Act:

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 1041A​

Market manipulation
A person must not take part in, or carry out (whether directly or indirectly and whether in this jurisdiction or elsewhere):

(a) a transaction that has or is likely to have; or

(b) 2 or more transactions that have or are likely to have;

the effect of:

(c) creating an artificial price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction; or

(d) maintaining at a level that is artificial (whether or not it was previously artificial) a price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction.

Note 1: Failure to comply with this section is an offence (see subsection 1311(1)).

Note 2: This section is also a civil penalty provision (see section 1317E). For relief from liability to a civil penalty relating to this section, see section 1317S.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Prev post back in Oct on some Oculi I was looking at then.

BRN Discussion Ongoing

Could be totally wrong but gist I get for their Oculi tech from the patent that @Diogenese also found is driven around the pixel identification and changes and they speak of the vision component primarily that needs to dovetail into an AI processing aspect maybe? Driven around threshold values...

thestockexchange.com.au

This was a video back in Sept at the Tiny ML which included Prophesee and Oculi pressos.

 

[Deleted member 118]

Good Luck

You need to follow things up, every step of the way.

The people I dealt with were professional, but the systems they have to work with, leave much to be desired..

I'd say pretty much all the problems I encountered were system generated.

I'll give one Golden example.

In the process of trying to set up the SMSF trading account, they told me that they couldn't continue, because the other Trustee had 3 banking profiles..

We had to go in to a branch, to consolidate them ..

Again, don't trust that things are moving along smoothly, because they most probably aren't..

So many things these days, make me question..

Is it really the year 2023 ..

Mine hasn’t been to bad, just missed that I needed an abn and acn, the hard bit was I was released from Bankruptcy in July, so it took a bit of time to be allowed to open a smsf

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Proprietary information is not public information.

Proprietary information is not public information.

Someone posted a podcast on S1041A of the Corportaions Act:

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 1041A​

Market manipulation
A person must not take part in, or carry out (whether directly or indirectly and whether in this jurisdiction or elsewhere):

(a) a transaction that has or is likely to have; or

(b) 2 or more transactions that have or are likely to have;

the effect of:

(c) creating an artificial price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction; or

(d) maintaining at a level that is artificial (whether or not it was previously artificial) a price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction.

Note 1: Failure to comply with this section is an offence (see subsection 1311(1)).

Note 2: This section is also a civil penalty provision (see section 1317E). For relief from liability to a civil penalty relating to this section, see section 1317S.

The crux of that appears to be around "artificial" pricing.

My view.

Order book is the actual buy / sell / trade flow which is not artificial.

Obviously as we know price can be manipulated by capping, shorting, bots and so forth however it is still an open book that any trader can partake in which can assist in the moving of the price...not artificially.

 

[Diogenese]

Could be totally wrong but gist I get for their Oculi tech from the patent that @Diogenese also found is driven around the pixel identification and changes and they speak of the vision component primarily that needs to dovetail into an AI processing aspect maybe?

Driven around threshold values and trigger signals...presumably on pixel changes?

So, question is for me is, who's AI is doing the backend processing?

Appears they need an AI processor / IP maybe to be in that SPU.

The only reference to AI per se was a comment in the patent and quite generic. Nothing on neural or neuromorphic, SNN, DNN, CNN etc.

Only reference I can find so far to neuromorphic is their site but patent and TM applications etc so far don't show any of their own neuromorphic work so logic indicates sourcing elsewhere....whether us or not is to be formally confirmed, I guess.

Our Technology-V1 | Oculi

www.oculi.ai

OCULI SPU™: Integrated Neuromorphic Sensing & Processing​

Oculi makes the OCULI SPU™, Sensing and Processing Unit. This is the only Software-Defined Vision Sensor™ and it can deliver real-time vision intelligence (VI) by combining sensing + pre-processing in the pixel.

SENSING AND PROCESSING UNIT GENERATING A TRIGGER SIGNAL UPON OCCURRENCE OF SPECIFIED CONDITIONS - Fris, Inc.

<div p-id="p-0001">A sensing and processing electronic circuit includes a sensing array having a plurality of sensing elements each having a sensor configured to produce an output signal in response t

www.freepatentsonline.com

A sensing and processing electronic circuit includes a sensing array having a plurality of sensing elements each having a sensor configured to produce an output signal in response to detection of an environmental parameter. The circuit includes a triggering unit configured to generate a trigger signal that causes an action to occur. The trigger signal is generated based on selected activated sensing elements satisfying one or more specifiable conditions. A sensing element is activated when a characteristic value based on the output value of the sensing element crosses one or more thresholds so that the characteristic value is above, below, within or outside of a specified range of values or when a difference value between the characteristic value and a previous or template value of the sensing element crosses one or more thresholds so that the difference value is above, below, within or outside of a specified range of values.


or it may be more convenient to construct a specialized apparatus or system to perform the required methods and techniques. In some cases the environments in which various embodiments described herein are implemented may employ machine-learning and/or artificial intelligence techniques to perform the required methods and techniques.


They also applied for a more recent TM for a Software-Defined Vision Sensor with a dummy board by the looks so unfortunately no Akida identifier **sad face** haha

Was interesting to see the first use anywhere & first use commerce dates in the application.

Application for Software-defined Vision Sensor

Trademark registration supporting document for Application regarding SOFTWARE-DEFINED VISION SENSOR registered by Fris Inc

uspto.report

Trademark/Service Mark Application, Principal Register​

Serial Number: 97415842

Filing Date: 05/18/2022

To the Commissioner for Trademarks:​

MARK: Software-Defined Vision Sensor (Standard Characters, see mark)
The literal element of the mark consists of Software-Defined Vision Sensor. The mark consists of standard characters, without claim to any particular font style, size, or color.
The applicant, Fris Inc, DBA Oculi, a corporation of Delaware, having an address of
5520 Research Park Drive, Suite 100
5520 Research Park Drive, Suite 100
Baltimore, Maryland 21228
United States
410-205-5513(phone)
XXXX

requests registration of the trademark/service mark identified above in the United States Patent and Trademark Office on the Principal Register established by the Act of July 5, 1946 (15 U.S.C. Section 1051 et seq.), as amended, for the following:

For specific filing basis information for each item, you must view the display within the Input Table.
International Class 009: Semi-conductors; Semiconductor chip sets; Semiconductor chips; Semiconductor devices; Semiconductor wafers; Semiconductors; Electronic semi-conductors

In International Class 009, the mark was first used by the applicant or the applicant's related company or licensee or predecessor in interest at least as early as 12/08/2021, and first used in commerce at least as early as 12/10/2021, and is now in use in such commerce. The applicant is submitting one(or more) specimen(s) showing the mark as used in commerce on or in connection with any item in the class of listed goods/services, consisting of a Board with statement on it: Software-Defined Vision Sensor.
Specimen File1
Specimen File2
Webpage URL: www.oculi.ai
Webpage Date of Access: 12/10/2021

SIGNATURE INFORMATION​
FEE INFORMATION​
CORRESPONDENCE INFORMATION​
GOODS AND/OR SERVICES AND BASIS INFORMATION​
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Mar 22 TinyML presso slide.

https://cms.tinyml.org/wp-content/uploads/talks2022/Oculi-Poster-for-tinyML-Summit-48x36-2022-03-17.pdf

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Thanks Fmf,

Oculi acts as an artificial retina. It is not a neuromorphic processor.

It is capable of adjusting the detection threshold of each individual pixel.

It does not do the brainwork (synapse/neuron) of inference/classification.

Drawing on Prophesee's experience, Akida would be the best match for oculi to process the signals from the artificial retina.

 

[Diogenese]

The crux of that appears to be around "artificial" pricing.

My view.

Order book is the actual buy / sell / trade flow which is not artificial.

Obviously as we know price can be manipulated by capping, shorting, bots and so forth however it is still an open book that any trader can partake in which can assist in the moving of the price...not artificially.

Does it contain stop losses?

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Thanks Fmf,

Oculi acts as an artificial retina. It is not a neuromorphic processor.

It is capable of adjusting the detection threshold of each individual pixel.

It does not do the brainwork (synapse/neuron) of inference/classification.

Drawing on Prophesee's experience, Akida would be the best match for oculi to process the signals from the artificial retina.

Welcome.

So where does the neuromorphic SPU fit?

Is that just part of the artificial retina aspect or is that the possible Akida integration?

 

[Bravo]

Might be worth looking into this a little deeper...

Bitsensing launches ITS radar with AI edge processing | Traffic Technology Today

South Korean imaging radar company Bitsensing has announced the launch of its 24GHz Traffic Insight Monitoring Sensor (TIMOS), powered by the NVIDIA

www.traffictechnologytoday.com

 

[Diogenese]

Welcome.

So where does the neuromorphic SPU fit?

Is that just part of the artificial retina aspect or is that the possible Akida integration?

Without researching their discussion on this point, I think that, in relation to DVS, the event spike is referred to as "neuromorphic".