Hi jtardif999,I’m going to mess up your math FF. Akida1.0 has 80 nodes and each node has 4 NPUs. Everywhere you refer to the number of NPUs can be multiplied by 4![]()
Enough with the Science Fiction, we need more cowbells
Am I reading it wrong. Each Unit costs around $7-10 with 2500 units around $20,000??Wow, with their prices up in the $20k range. I would be shorting their stock.
No, i read it wrong. I suck at being a shorter.Am I reading it wrong. Each Unit costs around $7-10 with 2500 units around $20,000??
Does this mean that at the end of this year @Realinfo that you won't have to shout us lunch at "The Briars " 1Those who harness the beast best…win !
In the final paragraph above, I suggest that it’s no longer Akida, or if you’re using it that must remain a secret. Like the colt from Old Regret, Akida has got away. It hasn’t just escaped…it’s bolted into the marketplace. If anyone either directly or indirectly associated with the tech world still hasn’t heard of it by now, they must be living under a rock.
The secret that must now be kept under absolute wraps until your product at least hits the market, is how you’re applying the science fiction that is Akida.
It’s no longer a question of if you’re using it…but how.
This is why companies at CES are only talking in big picture language, devoid of any details or specifics about how they are gunna achieve what they’re talking about. Even Mercedes realise, that to reveal anymore than what they said last year, is giving their competitors too much of a heads-up on what they’re doing.
Everybody will eventually use Akida in some way or another. Those first to market will certainly gain an advantage, but it’s those who apply it’s ‘secret sauce’ in the most innovative, imaginative, ingenious, inventive way, who’ll be the big winners over their competitors.
’If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds of brilliance…
yours is the earth and everything in it’...Rudyard Kipling.
No you are reading it correctly across all the distributors average cost is around $US8.00.Am I reading it wrong. Each Unit costs around $7-10 with 2500 units around $20,000??
Many thanks for the explanation.No you are reading it correctly across all the distributors average cost is around $US8.00.
Nviso was running multiple Apps doing lots of in cabin monitoring of all passengers and using only 5% of AKIDA 1.0 capacity.
On this basis just driver fatigue and distraction would be easily run on a couple of nodes which is 8 NPEs so a car company could pick up AKIDA IP and Nviso for less than $1.50 possibly $1.00.
Eight times less costly but with the additional opportunity to upgrade in the various makers models right up through Nviso’s 20 or 24 Apps which include medical health monitoring as well as passenger monitoring etc;
Brainchip AKIDA is killer Science Fiction.
My opinion only DYOR
FF
AKIDA BALLISTA
I did some research and Renasas is supplying chips to SyntiantNot necessarily direct competition, since I cannot vouch for the capability of the thing doing the AI in that device... merely shared, because it does sound like something Akida is particularly good at.
Can't wait for Sean Hehir's next CEO address at the AGMImagine if BRN all of a sudden released its 4c now rather than late January and it contained good revenue. Shorters would get destroyed.![]()
We can and should look also at our profit margin on OUR Companies IP Product….It’s 98 percent!! How many other companies can say that about their Product/s ?? Vlad.
I can't either the CEO Made a statement, and I want to see if his backed up his words, no excuses if you put your head on the block pls make sure your rightCan't wait for Sean Hehir's next CEO address at the AGM![]()
It is articles like this one that hide Brainchip behind a veil of perceived mediocracy. A whole heap of 'competitors' in edge ai inference make a reader believe that the edge market is populated with like or similar products. It doesn't, for example, say that Intel pushed its own product aside to embrace Akida. I would love it for someone with the skill set to do a table of competitors to compare just who is the undisputed leader in this edge field.![]()
Perceive AI Launches 2nd Edge AI Chip For Low Power Applications — Forbes
Company claims Ergo2 is up to four times faster than Perceive’s first-generation Ergo chip, and can handle much larger models such as NLP.apple.news
Perceive AI Launches 2nd Edge AI Chip For Low Power Applications
Company claims Ergo2 is up to four times faster than Perceive’s first-generation Ergo chip, and can handle much larger models such as NLP.
Edge AI is coming into its own, with a variety of chips being launched that offer low cost, low power, and high performance. While training AI models gets most of the attention in the media, Inference processing will end up getting most of the revenue, especially at the edge. Global Market Insights, a respected market intelligence firm, projects that the market for Edge AI will top $5B in 2023, with a 20% CAGR through the next decade. While our gut feel is that $5B is too high, we feel the 20% growth forecast is far too low.
At any rate, the market is attracting many contenders, including Perceive, which was spun out of Xperi Corporation in 2018 to concentrate on this opportunity, and now already has its second product ready for market.
What did Perceive Announce?
The company is not replacing its Ergo product, but rather is adding a higher performance and more capable chip for demanding edge applications. As the table below shows, the new device delivers a big boost in image classification, and consumes less than 20 mW. Thats Milliwatts, or 1/1000 of a watt. We know of no competitor who can claim that, and still deliver about 1000 inferences per second.
There are many companies readying or shipping chips for Edge AI, including SiMa.ai, Hailo Technologies, AlphaICs, Recogni, EdgeCortix, Flex Logix, Roviero, BrainChip, Syntiant, Untether AI, Expedera, Deep AI, Andes, Plumerai, in addition to Intel, AMD (Xilinx) and of course NVIDIA. Some, like NVIDIA and SiMa.ai are heading down the SoC route, where the chip offers a more complete solution including Arm or RISC-V CPU cores and I/O.
In contrast, Perceive (and others such as Hailo) has focussed on customers who are looking for an AI accelerator that attaches to an SoC for a specific application. Interestingly, the Ergo chip does not require external DRAM, although it supports connectivity to a NOR Flash to contain the weights for larger models. This can be a cost advantage for applications such as speech-to-text , audio applications, and video processing tasks like video super resolution and pose detection. Compared to existing products such as the Hailo-8 accelerator at 2-4 watts, the Ergo is targeting lower power (tens of milliwatts vs 2-4 watts for Hailo-8) albeit with lower performance.
Conclusions
As we’ve always said, the edge market is far easier to penetrate than training in the data center because different applications have dramatically different requirements. While an image processor for autonomous vehicles requires higher performance at higher power levels, a smart camera or an embedded speech to text processor demands a lower power envelope, and a lower cost. And many auto makers will prefer an SoC like NVIDIA Drive instead of designing their own SoC; Tesla is an exception to the rule.
Consequently, there is plenty of room for specific low-power processors such as Perceive, and the company is smart to quickly extend their first foray with a faster sub-watt processor. The software will be key to their success, enabling larger models to run efficiently on the new Ergo2.
We would note that there are many more competitors entering this market, so check back soon to stay up to date!
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“and consumes less than 20 mW. Thats Milliwatts, or 1/1000 of a watt. We know of no competitor who can claim that, and still deliver about 1000 inferences per second.”![]()
Perceive AI Launches 2nd Edge AI Chip For Low Power Applications — Forbes
Company claims Ergo2 is up to four times faster than Perceive’s first-generation Ergo chip, and can handle much larger models such as NLP.apple.news
Perceive AI Launches 2nd Edge AI Chip For Low Power Applications
Company claims Ergo2 is up to four times faster than Perceive’s first-generation Ergo chip, and can handle much larger models such as NLP.
Edge AI is coming into its own, with a variety of chips being launched that offer low cost, low power, and high performance. While training AI models gets most of the attention in the media, Inference processing will end up getting most of the revenue, especially at the edge. Global Market Insights, a respected market intelligence firm, projects that the market for Edge AI will top $5B in 2023, with a 20% CAGR through the next decade. While our gut feel is that $5B is too high, we feel the 20% growth forecast is far too low.
At any rate, the market is attracting many contenders, including Perceive, which was spun out of Xperi Corporation in 2018 to concentrate on this opportunity, and now already has its second product ready for market.
What did Perceive Announce?
The company is not replacing its Ergo product, but rather is adding a higher performance and more capable chip for demanding edge applications. As the table below shows, the new device delivers a big boost in image classification, and consumes less than 20 mW. Thats Milliwatts, or 1/1000 of a watt. We know of no competitor who can claim that, and still deliver about 1000 inferences per second.
There are many companies readying or shipping chips for Edge AI, including SiMa.ai, Hailo Technologies, AlphaICs, Recogni, EdgeCortix, Flex Logix, Roviero, BrainChip, Syntiant, Untether AI, Expedera, Deep AI, Andes, Plumerai, in addition to Intel, AMD (Xilinx) and of course NVIDIA. Some, like NVIDIA and SiMa.ai are heading down the SoC route, where the chip offers a more complete solution including Arm or RISC-V CPU cores and I/O.
In contrast, Perceive (and others such as Hailo) has focussed on customers who are looking for an AI accelerator that attaches to an SoC for a specific application. Interestingly, the Ergo chip does not require external DRAM, although it supports connectivity to a NOR Flash to contain the weights for larger models. This can be a cost advantage for applications such as speech-to-text , audio applications, and video processing tasks like video super resolution and pose detection. Compared to existing products such as the Hailo-8 accelerator at 2-4 watts, the Ergo is targeting lower power (tens of milliwatts vs 2-4 watts for Hailo-8) albeit with lower performance.
Conclusions
As we’ve always said, the edge market is far easier to penetrate than training in the data center because different applications have dramatically different requirements. While an image processor for autonomous vehicles requires higher performance at higher power levels, a smart camera or an embedded speech to text processor demands a lower power envelope, and a lower cost. And many auto makers will prefer an SoC like NVIDIA Drive instead of designing their own SoC; Tesla is an exception to the rule.
Consequently, there is plenty of room for specific low-power processors such as Perceive, and the company is smart to quickly extend their first foray with a faster sub-watt processor. The software will be key to their success, enabling larger models to run efficiently on the new Ergo2.
We would note that there are many more competitors entering this market, so check back soon to stay up to date!
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Sign up for the Forbes CxO Newsletter sent every Monday.
Was recently reading about Hailo 8. Uses 2 to 4 watts and they call that low powerIt is articles like this one that hide Brainchip behind a veil of perceived mediocracy. A whole heap of 'competitors' in edge ai inference make a reader believe that the edge market is populated with like or similar products. It doesn't, for example, say that Intel pushed its own product aside to embrace Akida. I would love it for someone with the skill set to do a table of competitors to compare just who is the undisputed leader in this edge field.
I wish I did have such a skillset.
This list of other edge inhabitants contains names I have never heard of. Can those with greater knowledge name which of these names that are pretenders, also those that are coming close, and those that are legitimate competition?
SiMa.ai, Hailo Technologies, AlphaICs, Recogni, EdgeCortix, Flex Logix, Roviero, Syntiant, Untether AI, Expedera, Deep AI, Andes, Plumerai, in addition to Intel, AMD (Xilinx)
The article is written by Cambrian Ai Research. They are similar to fools but in tuxedos.It is articles like this one that hide Brainchip behind a veil of perceived mediocracy. A whole heap of 'competitors' in edge ai inference make a reader believe that the edge market is populated with like or similar products. It doesn't, for example, say that Intel pushed its own product aside to embrace Akida. I would love it for someone with the skill set to do a table of competitors to compare just who is the undisputed leader in this edge field.
I wish I did have such a skillset.
This list of other edge inhabitants contains names I have never heard of. Can those with greater knowledge name which of these names that are pretenders, also those that are coming close, and those that are legitimate competition?
SiMa.ai, Hailo Technologies, AlphaICs, Recogni, EdgeCortix, Flex Logix, Roviero, Syntiant, Untether AI, Expedera, Deep AI, Andes, Plumerai, in addition to Intel, AMD (Xilinx)
I think this article is a good sign that the leader in this space Akida is not mentioned at all.Was recently reading about Hailo 8. Uses 2 to 4 watts and they call that low power![]()
Hi @DhmIt is articles like this one that hide Brainchip behind a veil of perceived mediocracy. A whole heap of 'competitors' in edge ai inference make a reader believe that the edge market is populated with like or similar products. It doesn't, for example, say that Intel pushed its own product aside to embrace Akida. I would love it for someone with the skill set to do a table of competitors to compare just who is the undisputed leader in this edge field.
I wish I did have such a skillset.
This list of other edge inhabitants contains names I have never heard of. Can those with greater knowledge name which of these names that are pretenders, also those that are coming close, and those that are legitimate competition?
SiMa.ai, Hailo Technologies, AlphaICs, Recogni, EdgeCortix, Flex Logix, Roviero, Syntiant, Untether AI, Expedera, Deep AI, Andes, Plumerai, in addition to Intel, AMD (Xilinx)