wilzy123
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if he had worries he would have flogged the lot
It literally could not be any more obvious why he sold what he sold, and nothing more.
if he had worries he would have flogged the lot
I have to come out of the closet on this one and confess that when I am alone and my wife cannot hear me typing I talk ‘sssh’ US tax law with the CFO Ken Scarince.I think we can safely assume he is acting on professional advise relevant to the tax jurisdiction he is subject too, as any reasonable person would.
Reading anything further into this matter is purely hypothetical.
I would think he would most likely be subject to American tax rulings and being based there can no doubt argue his income is earned there.
Further to that, it would appear it is a common practice in the US tech industry.I have to come out of the closet on this one and confess that when I am alone and my wife cannot hear me typing I talk ‘sssh’ US tax law with the CFO Ken Scarince.
Sean Hehir is a US Citizen domiciled in the US so US tax law applies.
Sometime back I was given some insight into US tax law where shares are paid as salary and yes the liability arises immediately and wait for this really exciting part:
The CEO will also have the privilege of paying tax on the capital gains in due course when he sells the balance and this can lead to an effective tax rate in accounting terms of 96% if not handled correctly.
Correct advice and timing are required. It is just so exciting. Back in the closet I go.
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I think you will find that the shares are actually sold by BRN prior to handing the remainder of shares to the CEO and the proceeds are used to pay the tax liability which is due immediately, that is why it is sold in the following dayYeah only thing ill say is (my understanding) tax on this isnt due on this until 2023 tax return, payable likely may 2024. So he has sold the tax amount to put aside the cash until that time.
As he us taxed on the value at the time of conversion, he sold the shares to cover the tax at the same prices. This is an astute and conservative way to do it.
If he thought share price was going to fly he could have sold less shares later to get the same cash....around the time his tax is due.
All imo and assuming he is australian tax resident. If hes not, then different rules would apply which may explain why he has to pay the tax now.
Of course if he thought share price was going to tank he couldve turfed the lot.... which is also important
I probably should have made this clear it is what price the shares closed at on the vesting date which is what the tax is calculated on.Further to that, it would appear it is a common practice in the US tech industry.
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Many employees receive restricted stock units (RSUs) as a part of their compensation, particularly in the tech industry.
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Restricted stock units are technically a promise of future stock. As a result, you own nothing, and the IRS won't tax you until you do.
As soon as your vesting period ends, your stock units become real. This is when your stock becomes yours. After this date, your stock becomes yours without restrictions. This is known as the vesting date. As part of your compensation from your employer, your new stocks are taxed as ordinary income.
Upon vesting, the IRS will tax you on the value of your shares.
It smells like..........Victory!I love announcements about CEOs selling shares.
Hang in there Brother.I look forward to the day, if it ever comes, when one of the management/director/key personnel actually BUYS a few shares (may be they can afford $1000?).
Now that'd be a nice change.
I do understand the tax purposes perspective, but does it warrant nearly 50% of his fully paid ordinary shares? Rhetorical question, may be my expectations are too much.
Every company on ASX is doing share buy backs to support the share price, I don't expect BRN to do the same in this present stage of the company, but ffs, they could at least not dump the shares? Sean has been in the office only for a few months![]()
Hang in there Brother.
Our day is coming.![]()
Tax rate 46 cents in the dollar as added to normal income.I look forward to the day, if it ever comes, when one of the management/director/key personnel actually BUYS a few shares (may be they can afford $1000?).
Now that'd be a nice change.
I do understand the tax purposes perspective, but does it warrant nearly 50% of his fully paid ordinary shares? Rhetorical question, may be my expectations are too much.
Every company on ASX is doing share buy backs to support the share price, I don't expect BRN to do the same in this present stage of the company, but ffs, they could at least not dump the shares? Sean has been in the office only for a few months![]()