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[Learning]

I don’t believe him.
The fact that there would be restrictions/NDA’s on what can and cannot be said regarding the worlds best kept secret (akida) would suggest to me that he has his poker face on!

Call me naive but I just cannot believe him with the relationship we have with Mercedes, and what they’ve already said about Brainchip publicly being the AI experts and it being up to 10x more efficient than anything else out there, and now we know that akida new and improved is due out soon, publicly anyway and that somebody has all of a sudden come up with something much more superior to Akida?

NOPE not a chance!

I too think you are correct @chapman89.
If their is another product out there and is 100x more power efficient then Akida IP then, I am sure we would see it get promoted/ talk about it. But nothing in the last 12 months. So it's Akida IP

Learning.

 

[Bigal7425]

Damn...

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Or if he knows AKIDA 2.0 under a different name

 

[alwaysgreen]

Damn...

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Bugger.

 

[VictorG]

"Not that one" could be referring to Akida 1000. A good question would be 'is it Brainchip IP?
We don't know for sure what Brainchip has called Akida 2000 now that they moved to pure IP.

 

[Evermont]

Any appetite for a 2.0 rebrand?

 

[alwaysgreen]

His post has quite a few likes from people at Intel.

If it was Akida, surely there would be a "like" from Rob?

 

[Lex555]

Chipbrain?

I’m waiting to hear back from Shareman as to his thoughts on this new startup chipbrain, rumours on the internal net is that it might have loihi IP and is very high powered, I’m talking sparks coming from the chip kind of stuff

 

[Shadow59]

His post has quite a few likes from people at Intel.

If it was Akida, surely there would be a "like" from Rob?

He came from Intel and has friends still there.

 

[Lex555]

Damn...

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That’s a very intriguing response, in fact I’d say that’s a non-denial denial. He could have said a flat no but, instead said ‘not that one’. So he didn’t say an out and out no, but just a no to what we’re alluding to being Akida 1.0. This way he’s being evasive but not lying.

My guess its Akida 1.5 with LSTM.

 

[toasty]

Maybe he's been admonished for letting the cat out of the bag prior to the patent being officially granted??

 

[chapman89]

 

[equanimous]

 

[Iseki]

Sounds like a Mercedes rebranding of an AKIDA based IP.

 

[Fact Finder]

What can we say with certainty:

1. Brainchip’s AKIDA1.0 is a neuromorphic processor.

2. Anil Mankar stated last year it was more efficient and faster than a GPU.

3. He has said “Not that one.” Meaning not that neuromorphic processor.

4. It is therefore reasonable to conclude that whatever he is referring to is a neuromorphic processor.

Who apart from Brainchip has a neuromorphic processor that can compete with AKIDA 1.0 and out perform a GPU.

The only one I am aware of is Loihi 2 and it is still a research chip.

Intel was previously working with Mercedes Benz before the arrival of Brainchip.

He is former Intel.

If he is referring to Loihi 2 it is of academic interest because we know AKIDA1.0 exceeds the Loihi 2 performance.

If he is referring to AKIDA2.0 which he knows by some other name he does no more than confirm what Anil Mankar told the World last year at the Ai Field Day about AKIDA technology saying:
“Because (we) do computations neuromorphic it is a clear advantage over deep learning GPUs…a quick comparison between (our) neuromorphic chip…and GPUs…(we) can work in microwatts to milli watts while deep learning GPUs are using 100’s of watts…(our) neuromorphic chip… can run much faster, we are running at 300Mhz but the circuits can go to 1Ghz…”

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[alwaysgreen]

I love everyone trying to positively spin this but he said it wasn't Akida. Pretty cut and dry to me.

I hope you are all correct and I am just a sad old pessimist!

 

[Iseki]

I love everyone trying to positively spin this but he said it wasn't Akida. Pretty cut and dry to me.

I hope you are all correct and I am just a sad old pessimist!

He doesn't say that what he is reading is better than Akida.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Well, without company confirmation then we all just guessing unfortunately.

Personally can't see how NDA involved given relationship with BRN and MB already outed by MB but yet no formal agreement Ann'd as yet.

One that could be is GrAI?

They had previously been noted by BRN as one of the closer competitors....not necessarily better...just closer.

Technology | GrAI Matter Labs

www.graimatterlabs.ai

 

[toasty]

I love everyone trying to positively spin this but he said it wasn't Akida. Pretty cut and dry to me.

I hope you are all correct and I am just a sad old pessimist!

Mercedes is not a brand that chops and changes. It finds/invents the best technologies and work with them for the long term. That's what their F1 involvement is about for example. Now if we accept that, then the fact they have recently stated that Brainchip are the AI experts and they are working with us to bring to production the kinds of systems deployed in the EQXX it follows that the tweet could not be about anything other than Brainchip product - by whatever name. Think about it. Would Mercedes trumpet Brainchip as the best AI they can find then within months go off in another direction?????

 

[Shadow59]

What can we say with certainty:

1. Brainchip’s AKIDA1.0 is a neuromorphic processor.

2. Anil Mankar stated last year it was more efficient and faster than a GPU.

3. He has said “Not that one.” Meaning not that neuromorphic processor.

4. It is therefore reasonable to conclude that whatever he is referring to is a neuromorphic processor.

Who apart from Brainchip has a neuromorphic processor that can compete with AKIDA 1.0 and out perform a GPU.

The only one I am aware of is Loihi 2 and it is still a research chip.

Intel was previously working with Mercedes Benz before the arrival of Brainchip.

He is former Intel.

If he is referring to Loihi 2 it is of academic interest because we know AKIDA1.0 exceeds the Loihi 2 performance.

If he is referring to AKIDA2.0 which he knows by some other name he does no more than confirm what Anil Mankar told the World last year at the Ai Field Day about AKIDA technology saying:
“Because (we) do computations neuromorphic it is a clear advantage over deep learning GPUs…a quick comparison between (our) neuromorphic chip…and GPUs…(we) can work in microwatts to milli watts while deep learning GPUs are using 100’s of watts…(our) neuromorphic chip… can run much faster, we are running at 300Mhz but the circuits can go to 1Ghz…”

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

I think what we have to take from this is that we know how much is involved to bring a new idea to something operational. To me it looks like he is talking about a theory. How long has it taken to get Akida to where it is now? They will be up for that to start with, then they will need to produce an operational chip, assuming they can. In the mean time what would Mercedes do sit around and wait? I don't think so!

 

[toasty]

Or maybe MB have incorporated BRN IP into a RISC V processor? Whatever the full story is I just cant see MB changing their tune on AI in such a short period of time..........