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Pleased you found it helpful.

You probably noticed I refer back to the Anil Mankar's live presentation to an audience at the 2021 Ai Field Day quite often in other posts. This presentation is available on the Brainchip website under Learn.

On the place we do not talk about @IndepthDiver produced a transcript of the presentation and I am not sure if it has been brought over here but relevantly to the question of whether AKIDA is powering Valeo's LiDAR being used by Mercedes is the following extract which you may not have yet discovered:

Audience Question: Are there any car manufacturers using your chips today?

Anil: They are evaluating technologies, we are developing some LiDAR data set applications for them, they will probably, they may not use this current chip because this current chip is not ASIL compatible and things like that but we expect that they will, once they are happy with our network that we are working with them they might ask us or they might ask one of their suppliers to develop a car certified ASIL certification and if we expect it to be embedded into the chip that are already going into the car, there are lots of companies selling camera chips in the car, there is no reason why they can't take our IP and it all ASIL compatible and all that but this current chip that we are developing to assist 28 nanometre is not certified for that but they are using this or testing all the network evaluating power performance and once they are happy we expect then, either them or their vendors, to be an IP customer for us.

Audience: Okay so your in development now but your not yet certified, is there a roadmap for that certification? Can you even ballpark a date or you don't want to talk about it?

Anil: Actually we don't have plans to be, the customers we are working with are already ASIL certified to in a car like camera chip guys, ultrasound, LiDAR guys, so we'll depend on them to because automotive certification all that will be long process and were not trying to be a big manufacturer of IC's our focus is to enable Ai into all of the application by supplying the IP.

Then further on Anil returns to LiDAR stating: Today people are taking LiDAR data and converting it into a 2D kind of image because its much easier to process the image and detect the object, There is no reason why we can't do that directly in a 3D point cloud and take advantage of that. We are working on some of those application and also there are other sensors that send 3D point cloud points and thats actually one of the application that we have, is, later on coming in but because its neuromorphic and because its so small and it reacts to the pixel where the things are changing."


Putting these comments together with everything else we know about Valeo this is why myself and many others have considerable confidence that AKIDA technology is at the core of their revolutionary LiDAR for Level 3 and above autonomous driving announced as being used by Mercedes Benz.

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Anil mentions they can perform on "3D Point Clouds". 3D Point Clouds are for Lidar and 3D math, so that is great to hear Brainchip's spiking neural processing architecture can be a major Use Case for automotive safety. Computer Vision sensors feed the data to Akida, and spiking decisions are made. Fantastic!
Stuart (Tampa Florida)

https://info.vercator.com/blog/what-are-point-clouds-5-easy-facts-that-explain-point-clouds
 
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don´t know a data from this side perhaps it is interessting??
Good find @Sirod69, it seems like you have found another Akida user for sure.

A VERY interesting use for Akida indeed. The eX3 project is concerned with developing exascale computers capable of performing a billion billion (10^18) floating-point operations per second. An area known as high performance computing (HPC).

I wouldn't have expected Akida to be used in this area, but from the article "HPC relies on an intricate interplay between thousands of sophisticated processing nodes, each with a large number of cores, deep memory hierarchies and equipped with accelerators, organized in complex communication topologies."

Maybe Akida helps in the area of coordinating the various other nodes?

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Move on, nothing to see.
I just heard on the news of a major radio station here about an emergency approval
in the US for a mobile Covid test. Is there an Akida involved? I'm on the road so it's hard for me to get to the bottom of it. Maybe it's meant that: https://people.com/health/fda-approves-the-first-test-for-covid-using-breath-samples/?amp=true
The product involved is InspectIR which is a decent size box - the size of carry-on luggage. It uses gas spectroscopy to analyze the sample and gives a result in 3 minutes. Testing needs to be performed by a qualified technician and followed by a PCR test if positive.

In a causal look around, I couldn't find any references to Akida nor neuromorphic processors.

Unfortunately it is not the Akida bearing NaNose diaNose device. But I do feel this paves the way for the same sort of treatment whenever NaNose pull their finger out and start seeking approval/marketing it. I'm afraid they are doing themselves a disservice by waiting until the diaNose analyses, what seems to be their aim of, every disease known to man. Which will be NEVER! They should jump on the Covid diagnostic band wagon and get their product known as InspectHr have just done. Unfortunately, as is often the case, being first to market trumps being the best.

With diaNose, every man and his dog can self test. They COULD be everywhere!! I see a usage where any doorman type role could carry one and ask for a breath sample as a condition of entry. Better still a device that samples the general air, in say a doorway, and alarms when one of the detectable contagious diseases are present--this could then be used to cause more rigorous individual testing. The uses are limitless. Let's hope if this happens, the device does use Akida.
 
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Hi FF,

Thanks for the reminder of the 2021 AI Field Day videos with Anil. They are well worth reviewing.

The AI field Day 2021 was 27-28 May 2021. A lot of water under the bridge since then, and Akida is the better for it.

BrainChip Completes Testing Production Version of the Akida Chip
Latest iteration has been optimized for lower power consumption than the original engineering samples
Aliso Viejo, Calif. – 8 November, 2021
BrainChip Holdings Ltd (ASX: BRN), (OTCQX: BCHPY), a leading provider of ultra-low power, high-performance artificial intelligence technology and the world’s first commercial producer of neuromorphic AI chips, today confirmed that functionality and performance testing of the AKD1000 production chips has been completed, which showed better performance than the original engineering samples.

As part of the continued development of its Akida™ Neuromorphic System-on-Chip (NSoC), BrainChip tested a production version of its AKD1000 chip with several neural network applications, including object classification, keyword spotting and spiking neural networks. The improved performance and lower power consumption results were achieved through a better layout and some minor design changes to the design, which were recognized after previous testing of earlier engineering samples.

Well worth re-watching these videos (I always find Ray Lucchesi's questions elicit useful information):

https://brainchipinc.com/videos/ BrainChip: The Future is Bright 28 May 2021.
0:55 - Joshua Fidel - any car mfrs using your chip now - are evaluating lidar datasets for them. This chip not ASIL compatible - IP embedded into chip so car mfrs/component suppliers can do ASIL qualification.
2:40 Marc - defence contractors - yes neuromorphic -learn on-chip - NASA - MetaTF & chip
3:30 Demetrios Brinkmann - best applications - beneficial - image
14:40 - RL - USB chip - $49 to $69

https://brainchipinc.com/videos/ Making Edge AI Possible
@8:40 Ray Lucchesi - neuromorphic analog
10:30 - Mark - low power micro W to milli W
1615 RL - RL - same resolution convert to spikes. difference between frames DVS event domain - no matrix multiplication
https://brainchipinc.com/videos/ The BrainChip Advantage
@ 8:45: Ray Lucchesi -one and a half nodes (6 NPUs) can do key word spotting
@ 15:00: Ray Lucchesi asks about LSTM - Anil LSTM is coming next generation - - new neuron model I&F plus copy
17:30: MetaTF deep learning SNN - CNN2SNN

MetaTF simulator maps to Akida - will include LSTM - activity based quantization - 4-bit, 2-bit, 1-bit.

ASIL is ISO standard, so it's very comprehensive, but car makers and component suppliers will be fully aware of the requirements.

ISO ASIL
https://www.techdesignforums.com/pr...g-iso-26262-certification-with-asil-ready-ip/

Since high-end ADAS SoCs are mainly used for safety-critical applications, they must meet the stringent requirements of the ISO 26262 functional safety standard, as must all the companies which supply components or semiconductor IP that go into the overall design.
Best practices in applying the ISO 26262 functional safety standard
ISO 26262 describes four automotive safety integrity levels (ASILs) – A, B, C and D – which in turn define the various processes that automotive development teams must use to meet the standard. One key task is to minimize a design’s susceptibility to random hardware failures by defining the functional requirements, using a rigorous development process and taking steps to ensure that safety features can mitigate those hardware failures. Design teams working to meet ISO 26262 standards must also systematically analyze the status of any component or system throughout the supply chain.

The ISO 26262 certification process must start from the very beginning of development process, and include multiple steps to complete the certification process, some of which are detailed below.
Failure mode effect and diagnosis analysis
A failure mode effect and diagnosis analysis (FMEDA) report is generated by development teams to provide all the information about their adherence to ISO 26262 from a functional safety perspective. The FMEDA report must be concurrently reviewed by design and verification engineers. Safety managers monitor the development process, milestones and product reviews to ensure that all the documentation and traceability requirements defined by ISO 26262 are completed throughout the SoC development flow, at both the IP and full-chip level.

ASIL ratings provide evidence of compliance, and define both design targets and a rating assessment at the end of the development flow. The ASIL ratings range from A, for the lowest integrity requirements, to D, for the highest integrity requirements. Let’s go through an example to illustrate a safety-critical product development flow.
Example of a development flow
Figure 1 shows a standard development flow for an IP or SoC. The core architecture and specification goes through RTL design and implementation, and is then verified and validated in hardware and software in the final prototypes.

Since high-end ADAS SoCs are mainly used for safety-critical applications, they must meet the stringent requirements of the ISO 26262 functional safety standard, as must all the companies which supply components or semiconductor IP that go into the overall design.

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Making this flow into one that complies with ISO 26262 means starting at the beginning, with the core architecture and specification definition, as shown in Figure 2. This assures the SoC or IP is designed to meet the required functional safety level.

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Architects and designers write safety plans to help manage the execution of safety activities, as shown in Figure 3. Safety plans help verify that the development flow meets the safety goals, implements the safety features specified in the safety plan, and measures the impact of any possible product failures and the design’s reaction to those failures in terms of functional safety. These plans are also reviewed by a safety manager.

The entire process up to this point is documented and delivered as Work Products, which include key milestones, resources, and the various implementation processes needed to meet functional safety requirements.

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FMEDA forms a critical part of the safety plan, providing a detailed report encompassing various steps and analysis, as shown in Figure 4. It must include a fault injection analysis for both permanent and transient faults, so their impact can be assessed. FMEDA also considers all the possible failure and distribution modes to understand how the product will behave if a failure occurs and what sort of diagnostics the product implements to identify and communicate such failures to the system.

The ISO 26262 standard also provides guidelines on how to implement safety features to counter various failure modes. It does this by looking at the possible failures, based on the SoC architecture. This failure assessments analysis also applies to IP that is integrated into the SoC. The various mitigation functions and their effectiveness, as recommended by the standard, are shown in Table 1.

Diagnostic TypeEffectiveness
HW RedundancyHigh – 99%
Configuration Register TestHigh – 99%
EDC* on MemoryHigh – 99%
Combination of Timeout monitoring, Frame Counter & information RedundancyHigh – 99%
Self-test supported by HardwareHigh – 99%
Multi-bit HW redundancyMedium – 90%
Timeout monitoringMedium – 90%
Frame CounterMedium – 90%
Information RedundancyMedium – 90%
Parity Bit – per WordLow – 60%
Table 1: Various mitigation functions and their effectiveness as defined by ISO 26262 (Source: Synopsys)

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Additional automotive requirements

In addition to meeting ISO 26262 functional safety requirements, automotive SoC development teams and the rest of the supply chain must adhere to automotive reliability and quality requirements.

Any product, including IP, for an automotive application must meet the automotive reliability requirements defined by AEC-Q100. Automotive reliability is measured in terms of parts-per-million failure rates under various operating modes and at much higher temperatures than those used to test consumer products. For this reason, SoC and IP designers define temperature profiles which their products are designed and tested to meet, based on the target application. IP providers must make sure their IP meets the reliability targets of the application, which means exploring how a transistor or electromigration analysis might be affected by the defined temperature profile*. IP providers must work with foundries to ensure that any special automotive rules are applied to their design.


[* Our experience with radiation hardening will come in useful in automotive ASIL certification. Also Socionext/TSMC will be familiar with automotive requirements, as will Valeo, Mercedes, Renesas, MegaChip ... ]

Any product development in the automotive supply chain must also meet automotive quality management requirements. In addition to having quality manuals and compliance reports, developers also need to create a design failure mode and effect analysis report that says that the SoC and its components meet the automotive quality management requirements.

Conclusion

Designing automotive SoCs and supporting components such as semiconductor IP demands a parallel functional safety assurance process, rooted in a deep understanding of the requirements of ISO 26262, AEC-Q100 and subtle technical details such as the impact of various temperature profiles on the potential failure modes of an IP block. A safety manager is also necessary to keep the safety process on track, ensure the documentation is kept up to date, and to review safety plans for unexplored failure modes. The overall process should include design and verification engineers throughout.

 
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Some great companies attending and talking at the summit.

Few awards up for grabs as well 👍

 
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Thanks for sharing Rocket. Great podcast for a non-technical person like me to understand and see where we are headed!

Cheers

I don’t get round to listen or watch anything I post, so I’m glad your enjoyed it 👍
 
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Morning everyone,

There has been plenty of discussion about Akida and hearing aids but this sounds VERRRY promising to me IMO (no pun intended)! 👂

Nokia Bell Labs has developed a wearable ear device called an "earable" with a microphone and speaker that can use on-device machine learning to help people understand and respond to the world around them.

On the 11 April 2022 they announced they have entered into an applied research collaboration with Equideum Health "focused on empowering individuals to own and benefit from their personal health-relevant data. The collaboration will specifically focus on the rapidly expanding datasets generated from wearable and other edge devices, such as smart watches, rings, earables, and the growing array of in-home medical devices".

The announcement states "The first of two projects to be undertaken involve Nokia Bell Labs’ earable prototype, a smart device worn in the ear that utilizes signal processing and on-device machine learning to create a cognitive augmentation platform. The earable device will be, integrated as a representative edge device with the personal private clouds within Equideum Health’s forthcoming direct to consumer offering. The second project will be an implementation of a collaborative machine learning environment that can preserve the privacy of the user data and the AI/ML (artificial intelligence/machine learning) models during training and inference. This integration will increase the optionality of privacy models available within Equideum Health’s enterprise-facing Data Integrity and Learning NetworksTM (DILNs)".

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A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.
 
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A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.
Love it. Would have been hilarious listening to you two try to talk about the footy with your extendable ears on! Hopefully their bosses don't read this thread though - could be some sackings!
 
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Slymeat

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Morning everyone,

There has been plenty of discussion about Akida and hearing aids but this sounds VERRRY promising to me IMO (no pun intended)! 👂

Nokia Bell Labs has developed a wearable ear device called an "earable" with a microphone and speaker that can use on-device machine learning to help people understand and respond to the world around them.

On the 11 April 2022 they announced they have entered into an applied research collaboration with Equideum Health "focused on empowering individuals to own and benefit from their personal health-relevant data. The collaboration will specifically focus on the rapidly expanding datasets generated from wearable and other edge devices, such as smart watches, rings, earables, and the growing array of in-home medical devices".

The announcement states "The first of two projects to be undertaken involve Nokia Bell Labs’ earable prototype, a smart device worn in the ear that utilizes signal processing and on-device machine learning to create a cognitive augmentation platform. The earable device will be, integrated as a representative edge device with the personal private clouds within Equideum Health’s forthcoming direct to consumer offering. The second project will be an implementation of a collaborative machine learning environment that can preserve the privacy of the user data and the AI/ML (artificial intelligence/machine learning) models during training and inference. This integration will increase the optionality of privacy models available within Equideum Health’s enterprise-facing Data Integrity and Learning NetworksTM (DILNs)".

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A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.
That’s bloody awesome RI thanks heaps 😁
 
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A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.
Hi Realinfo,

Perhaps we should arrange relay-dining at a restaurant list of your choosing.

The 1000 ears ...
or the 32000 teeth.
 
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If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.


Nice or should I say very, very "nett'?🥳



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Amateur query: is on device learning the same as on chip learning?

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A fly on the wall !

I recall witnessing one of the most famous / notorious (depending whose side you were on) business deals in Australian history. On a mid week night in 1987, my wife and I were dining at Darcy’s, a Paddington institution. It was a quiet evening, and up on the first floor only about half the tables were occupied. Nearest to us were two suits, engaged in what appeared intense discussion. As we were finishing our mains they stood up, shook hands, and one said to the other…’I hope you get as much out of it as I have’. They were Kerry Packer and Alan Bond.

This week, I had lunch with an old mate at another institition...France-Soir. It is modelled along the lines of a classic Parisian bistro, with tables set quite close and an ambience on its own. Seated at a table next to us were two elegant blokes, one of whom spoke with a German accent. They were having a discussion about the pros and cons of artificial intelligence. Given I’d spent an hour or so earlier that day convincing my mate to consider investing in Brainchip, we both listened on with interest, whilst pretending to make conversation. As they were enjoying France-Soir‘s much feted crème brûlée, the guy with the accent said to the other…’it doesn’t really matter what we think…Munich has been investigating Australian developed AI technology called Akida…and they think it can take us to the next level‘. He was suddenly interrupted by someone the other guy knew stopping by on his way out of the restaurant, and that was the end of it. Our waiter told us they were from Siemens.

Suffice to say, my mate’s now invested in BRN.

P.S. I am amazed at how the 1000 eyes discover what they do...the most recent example set by Fullmoon. You blokes must spend man-years trawling through a vast amount of material to uncover what you do…I doff my hat to you all.
I love this post but encourage everyone to believe Realinfo as I do as person of absolute truth but there a lots of moving pieces here which I have never had the privilege of meeting from the waiter to the two guys at the table. In fact to my knowledge now that I think about it I have never been formally introduced to Realinfo either.

So please add a very large helping of grains of salt to what I am about to post.

Longer term holders will know that I posted about the early work of Nanose to try and create together with a European consortium the SniffPhone.

Siemens and Siemens Medical were partners in this consortium and it was their job to invent/create the artificial intelligence or processing side of the venture.

In I think it was 2019 Siemens and Siemens Medical had all but given up admitting that the most they had been able to achieve was a SniffPhone that could detect bad breath on device. Hardly very useful and it was about the time of this admission that Professor Haick joined forces with Brainchip.

Brainchip started signing up the EAP's for the AKD1000 in 2020.

I have for some years therefore thought and suggested a potential link to Siemens as they would not after I think about 5 years of being engaged with Professor Haick not been made aware by him at least in passing that Brainchip and its AKIDA technology was doing what they had failed to do after years of research and European government funding.

So as I say be careful here not because of Realinfo not being trustworthy but because there are lots of moving pieces outside his control but their is logic and other information that supports the proposition that Siemens could be another of the EAP's.

My opinion only DYOR
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