AVZ Discussion 2022

Mute22

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Me holding back from tweeting what management explicitly told us not to say

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Skar

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I still hope we’ll look back at this nightmare roller coaster after we receive a fair payout and think wow, all things considered these delays actually worked out for the best. I’d say all the bidders are full aware that with the lithium price expected to climb, they want a deal locked away sooner then later.
Still recon China may close out a deal before a US company? Tiring road but still feel more hope than ever for a sweet ending.

Where you been... there has been a bit of M&A in the lithium space.

Rio bought arcadium
SQM/Hancock bought Azure
PLS bought Latin Resources

Current SC6 price is 800USD/t, was 5000USD/t (I think)... you are right every demand forecasts massive growth for decades... you really gotta think the longer we hold out the better positioned we are ... especially since the current low prices are pricing out all the explorers meaning future supply is all the more contrained as current feasible projects run dry and are not replaced by new projects (given this slump). It really is as Joe Lowry says High Prices fix high prices, low prices fix low prices.... i.e boom and bust cycles.

As to China, they just do business a different way but with alternate chemical supply chains on the cards they cant manipulate the price as easily as they have (they are spending a fortune processing their dirty lepidolite to suppress the spod price). Surely they cant do that forever and something has got to give.
 
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cruiser51

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Thats pure napkin math on the value of the lithium contained at these SUPER DEPRESSED price levels (not including tin or tantalum) BUT does not factor in any cost of production considerations (or future price movements). Management would have a handle on cost of production given we had a BFS done and dusted.

669 Million Tonnes, which is around 200MT of SC6 at present around 800USD/t with current USD to AUD exchange is about 250B AUD. Obvious over simplification I am not saying AVZ is/is not worth that... just that we should let management do their thing and not be hasty.

The rich prey on shaking the trees to spook the impatient.
I actually thought the ore body was much larger, it is open at the lower end, but not drilled out.

AVZ knows that, Zijin knows that, Rio knows that and Kobold knows that.

I believe the reserves are only the top section which was drilled out and even the drilling program on the top stopped because of all the shit which was happening.

So the 669 million tonnes is only the tip of the iceberg and the low hanging fruit, but the entire resource is much larger.

In my opinion Kobold is attempting to buy a top of the range Rolls Royce, while only trying to pay for a clapped out Trabant.

Just a minor point....

About the Trabant....
 
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cruiser51

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Where you been... there has been a bit of M&A in the lithium space.

Rio bought arcadium
SQM/Hancock bought Azure
PLS bought Latin Resources

Current SC6 price is 800USD/t, was 5000USD/t (I think)... you are right every demand forecasts massive growth for decades... you really gotta think the longer we hold out the better positioned we are ... especially since the current low prices are pricing out all the explorers meaning future supply is all the more contrained as current feasible projects run dry and are not replaced by new projects (given this slump). It really is as Joe Lowry says High Prices fix high prices, low prices fix low prices.... i.e boom and bust cycles.

As to China, they just do business a different way but with alternate chemical supply chains on the cards they cant manipulate the price as easily as they have (they are spending a fortune processing their dirty lepidolite to suppress the spod price). Surely they cant do that forever and something has got to give.
Catl is using the lepidolite, BYD is sourcing their lithium from Brazil.
 

tonster66

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from memory, we only needed the DMS process to produce SC6. Very little cost to get the lithium to battery grade
 
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Frank

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I still hope we’ll look back at this nightmare roller coaster after we receive a fair payout and think wow, all things considered these delays actually worked out for the best. I’d say all the bidders are full aware that with the lithium price expected to climb, they want a deal locked away sooner then later.
Still recon China may close out a deal before a US company? Tiring road but still feel more hope than ever for a sweet ending.
I still hope we’ll look back at this nightmare roller coaster after we receive a fair payout and think wow, all things considered these delays actually worked out for the best.

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I Hope and Pray If / when we get a Fair and Reasonable Payout after this Nightmare Roller Coaster Shit Show is over and if we do Finally go Wow it actually worked out 🙏 🥳 🙏

That -

1/ Nigel & Ben can do one last Lap around Oz and spend some time to speak freely and openly about everything that went down to Shareholders in a more relaxed environment before Riding off into the Sunset (y)

Also that -

2/ John's Wife / Widow knows exactly what's happening and gets a Large Payout for their Pain & Suffering and that this Shit Show finally delivers something positive for his Family after all these Years - Gone too soon - He should've been here for this !

RIP John :(


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P.S - I hope someone here is still in touch or can contact his Wife or Family members in the West 🙏
 
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Yaseen

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In one post August’s credibility goes to zero.
As stated earlier August was just calling the guy out who said he'd be taking a loss even at $1USD, by saying bs the share price has never even hit $1USD
 
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Didn’t August say recently on X that he thought fair value/compensation was somewhere $5-7.5B USD? Surely he hasn’t done a complete flip flop?
 
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In one post August’s credibility goes to zero.
Brah, he just started a fact, relax.
The guy can't be out of pocket and is talking shite. (Not taking into account opportunity cost)
 
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rocknrolla

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At all time high share price and at that time the dollar was 0.75 so it was worth a buck.
 
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Xerof

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Yaseen

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Link not working did anyone t
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Sure did, and by the time I went to comment "Huge deposit. What was the "purchase" price?" the post was gone

Did they just strike a deal while we slept or did Kobold catch the full retard Congo virus whilst over there, nfi, but oh my the timing of everything over the last few years has been complete chaos. One thing is for sure, Nige you now need another annoucement asap, I mean asap, yes today, or get Kobold to correct their very strange blatant comment. A company has just stated that they bought our 75%, yalla, wakey wakey Nige wtaf. I think Mr.Pei might be calling too (if he's not in on any deal)
 
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BRICK

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Sure did, and by the time I went to comment "Huge deposit. What was the "purchase" price? the post was gone

Did they just strike a deal while we slept or what, nfi
NF probably got on the phone and said shutthefuckup.
 
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