it took four marriages for you to learn to shut your mouth ?
Now thats what i call a expensive learning experience......
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Now thats what i call a expensive learning experience......
And then the Chinese pull out somewhere during the takover, *after* we've had to make the takeover announcement and piss off US investors.
While they continue to mine.
Arseholes.
That is an alternative view indeed.
I thought Felix is the only person that can avoid going to court by simply issuing a Predidential Decree awarding a ML to AVZ for the entire tenement with conditions .
Once this is awarded then AVZ can negotiate to US a take over.
Who would appose him FT as he can blanket it under Minerals for Security .
Zijin know they have no legal rights and would not follow a path to ICC as it would expose their corruption.
Should find out soon enough .
All Imo
And after a deal is struck the Chinese will bring out a 1 Billion tonne high grade JORC for CDL . Chinese Chess .
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Dave Evans
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@Goldenboy I cut and pasted your crapper post below
Danny, did you give any thought to the chronology of current and future events in relation to your statement? Why would AVZ walk away and cancel the legal proceedings when the Court hearing is scheduled to kick off in under 4 weeks? AVZ would lose its strategic advantage if it withdrew the legal proceedings before the ICSID without any form of confirmed settlement to our claim.
What would be the catalyst for a buyout/payout to occur when the USA hasn’t signed an Agreement with the DRC and there is no commitment from either party to include AVZ’S CLAIM in the settlement terms. KoBold metals and RIO would not be interested until the USA Administration has a formal legal commitment.
AVZ Lawyers and the ICSID judicial party are about to issue subpoena's on the DRC to ensure they have adequate time to arrange flights to the hearing.
The ICSID Hearing may not be a critical timeline on the agenda of the USA but you can bet it’s a high priority for the DRC.
Why hasn’t the DRC been more proactive in looking for a settlement? The answer is simple, they just don’t understand the context of International Law and don’t get the actions they orchestrated against AVZ were in fact illegal.
I don’t think they even understand the complexity of the organisation that has to happen for delegates from the DRC, Cominiere, Dathomir, Zijin Mining group and the President of the DRC all having to attend the Court Hearing to take the stand and answer questions from AVZ Lawyers to give context to the depth of corruption and fraudulent actions that caused AVZ's Mining Licence to be cancelled. I can see them all lining up one by one and throwing each other under the bus if the Court hearing is to go ahead.
The DRC is about to learn in a big way what is going to happen one way or another and very soon. Any agreement the DRC signs with the USA (before June) will most certainly include, the settlement terms AVZ has submitted under its claim before the ICSID Hearing or should the ICSID Hearing go ahead as scheduled the payment terms from the verdict decided upon from the ICSID including the totality of fines and sanctions that are handed down (2-3 months post hearing).
IMO the USA has already stipulated to the DRC and Rwanda they need to sign a Peace Deal asap before the USA will sign off on any Minerals deal. The Declaration of Principles which they both signed was a significant step they both signed for peace and prosperity in their regions More recently both regions submitted their terms to the USA administration for the Peace deal suggesting these ISSUES are of extreme importance.
The compelling date for the DRC, more importantly, is very soon (before June), not in a couple of months, so this is becoming very urgent for them and they seem to be moving quickly, with very good reason.
In President Trumps's first 100 days he suspended the payment of $4M in international AID to the DRC and Rwanda and said he would review this over the next 3 months. Well that time is about now so the USA is also using this as leverage.
If the price being paid to AVZ is going to come from USA financial sources or investment companies there is every reason for the DRC to get a settlement done with AVZ asap. The total investment being discussed with the USA including the Lobito corridor and other Mining projects for copper, cobalt, uranium and many other critical minerals on the USA agenda put the payout to AVZ as being relatively small.
Nigel and Piper lawyers are in the USA so we know their presence in country has significance and meetings/ negotiations we can assume are happening to bring about an amicable resolution.
AVZ SHS would all be hoping a settlement announcement is made very soon or we continue with our Claim before the ICSID.
Thanks for sharing that fantastic post @GoldenboyI don’t read the crapper and haven’t for years. I want the case to go to the ICSID, I want all the corrupt arseholes to be exposed, held accountable and publicly shamed. We have fought off the corrupt actors involved for three years, finally something is imminent (the ICSID case starting in less than a month) and we are in the strongest position we have been in during all that time.
The US is not just desperate for critical minerals, it’s desperate for Manono, and the DRC is desperate to get US help. The DRC is so desperate, every day they are spinning shit about how they are transparent, cleaning up corruption and a great place to invest. We know they are liars and they are more desperate than us now even in spite of their delusion.
Nigel will do whatever ever he thinks is best, but I personally don’t want to have wasted the last three years defending the company against all the corrupt stooges and posting hundreds of pages and multiple threads of information and then not see it through one last month to the ICSID exposing all the lying, corrupt, embezzling arseholes.
P.S. I don’t believe all the recent bullshit and gag orders by the usual sources. If an offer is made and accepted before the ICSID many shareholders will be happy, but as @Samus has pointed out many times, we’ve heard the same bullshit for three years and I don’t believe a bar of it either
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"AVZ Lawyers and the ICSID judicial party are about to issue subpoena's on the DRC to ensure they have adequate time to arrange flights to the hearing."@Goldenboy I cut and pasted your crapper post below
Danny, did you give any thought to the chronology of current and future events in relation to your statement? Why would AVZ walk away and cancel the legal proceedings when the Court hearing is scheduled to kick off in under 4 weeks? AVZ would lose its strategic advantage if it withdrew the legal proceedings before the ICSID without any form of confirmed settlement to our claim.
What would be the catalyst for a buyout/payout to occur when the USA hasn’t signed an Agreement with the DRC and there is no commitment from either party to include AVZ’S CLAIM in the settlement terms. KoBold metals and RIO would not be interested until the USA Administration has a formal legal commitment.
AVZ Lawyers and the ICSID judicial party are about to issue subpoena's on the DRC to ensure they have adequate time to arrange flights to the hearing.
The ICSID Hearing may not be a critical timeline on the agenda of the USA but you can bet it’s a high priority for the DRC.
Why hasn’t the DRC been more proactive in looking for a settlement? The answer is simple, they just don’t understand the context of International Law and don’t get the actions they orchestrated against AVZ were in fact illegal.
I don’t think they even understand the complexity of the organisation that has to happen for delegates from the DRC, Cominiere, Dathomir, Zijin Mining group and the President of the DRC all having to attend the Court Hearing to take the stand and answer questions from AVZ Lawyers to give context to the depth of corruption and fraudulent actions that caused AVZ's Mining Licence to be cancelled. I can see them all lining up one by one and throwing each other under the bus if the Court hearing is to go ahead.
The DRC is about to learn in a big way what is going to happen one way or another and very soon. Any agreement the DRC signs with the USA (before June) will most certainly include, the settlement terms AVZ has submitted under its claim before the ICSID Hearing or should the ICSID Hearing go ahead as scheduled the payment terms from the verdict decided upon from the ICSID including the totality of fines and sanctions that are handed down (2-3 months post hearing).
IMO the USA has already stipulated to the DRC and Rwanda they need to sign a Peace Deal asap before the USA will sign off on any Minerals deal. The Declaration of Principles which they both signed was a significant step they both signed for peace and prosperity in their regions More recently both regions submitted their terms to the USA administration for the Peace deal suggesting these ISSUES are of extreme importance.
The compelling date for the DRC, more importantly, is very soon (before June), not in a couple of months, so this is becoming very urgent for them and they seem to be moving quickly, with very good reason.
In President Trumps's first 100 days he suspended the payment of $4M in international AID to the DRC and Rwanda and said he would review this over the next 3 months. Well that time is about now so the USA is also using this as leverage.
If the price being paid to AVZ is going to come from USA financial sources or investment companies there is every reason for the DRC to get a settlement done with AVZ asap. The total investment being discussed with the USA including the Lobito corridor and other Mining projects for copper, cobalt, uranium and many other critical minerals on the USA agenda put the payout to AVZ as being relatively small.
Nigel and Piper lawyers are in the USA so we know their presence in country has significance and meetings/ negotiations we can assume are happening to bring about an amicable resolution.
AVZ SHS would all be hoping a settlement announcement is made very soon or we continue with our Claim before the ICSID.
I don’t read the crapper and haven’t for years. I want the case to go to the ICSID, I want all the corrupt arseholes to be exposed, held accountable and publicly shamed. We have fought off the corrupt actors involved for three years, finally something is imminent (the ICSID case starting in less than a month) and we are in the strongest position we have been in during all that time.
The US is not just desperate for critical minerals, it’s desperate for Manono, and the DRC is desperate to get US help. The DRC is so desperate, every day they are spinning shit about how they are transparent, cleaning up corruption and a great place to invest. We know they are liars and they are more desperate than us now even in spite of their delusion.
Nigel will do whatever ever he thinks is best, but I personally don’t want to have wasted the last three years defending the company against all the corrupt stooges and posting hundreds of pages and multiple threads of information and then not see it through one last month to the ICSID exposing all the lying, corrupt, embezzling arseholes.
View attachment 83986
P.S. I don’t believe all the recent bullshit and gag orders by the usual sources. If an offer is made and accepted before the ICSID many shareholders will be happy, but as @Samus has pointed out many times, we’ve heard the same bullshit for three years and I don’t believe a bar of it either
"I don’t think they even understand the complexity of the organisation that has to happen for delegates from the DRC, Cominiere, Dathomir, Zijin Mining group and the President of the DRC all having to attend the Court Hearing to take the stand and answer questions from AVZ Lawyers."
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I would say the chances of this happening are less than ZERO , Or , Not a snow flakes chance in hell . Take your pick . IMO
Dave Evans
Regular
People (including US investors) thought our chances of getting US$20million for litigation funding were “less than ZERO” too Wombat
I’ve given my opinion and I want to get to bed before midnight tonight so I’m signing off. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to gather enough pineapples to….
Well you know what to do with them, it was all your idea back in the day, remember
Carlos Danger
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People (including US investors) thought our chances of getting US$20million for litigation funding were “less than ZERO” too Wombat
I’ve given my opinion and I want to get to bed before midnight tonight so I’m signing off. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to gather enough pineapples to….
Well you know what to do with them, it was all your idea back in the day, remember
@Goldenboy I cut and pasted your crapper post below
Danny, did you give any thought to the chronology of current and future events in relation to your statement? Why would AVZ walk away and cancel the legal proceedings when the Court hearing is scheduled to kick off in under 4 weeks? AVZ would lose its strategic advantage if it withdrew the legal proceedings before the ICSID without any form of confirmed settlement to our claim.
What would be the catalyst for a buyout/payout to occur when the USA hasn’t signed an Agreement with the DRC and there is no commitment from either party to include AVZ’S CLAIM in the settlement terms. KoBold metals and RIO would not be interested until the USA Administration has a formal legal commitment.
AVZ Lawyers and the ICSID judicial party are about to issue subpoena's on the DRC to ensure they have adequate time to arrange flights to the hearing.
The ICSID Hearing may not be a critical timeline on the agenda of the USA but you can bet it’s a high priority for the DRC.
Why hasn’t the DRC been more proactive in looking for a settlement? The answer is simple, they just don’t understand the context of International Law and don’t get the actions they orchestrated against AVZ were in fact illegal.
I don’t think they even understand the complexity of the organisation that has to happen for delegates from the DRC, Cominiere, Dathomir, Zijin Mining group and the President of the DRC all having to attend the Court Hearing to take the stand and answer questions from AVZ Lawyers to give context to the depth of corruption and fraudulent actions that caused AVZ's Mining Licence to be cancelled. I can see them all lining up one by one and throwing each other under the bus if the Court hearing is to go ahead.
The DRC is about to learn in a big way what is going to happen one way or another and very soon. Any agreement the DRC signs with the USA (before June) will most certainly include, the settlement terms AVZ has submitted under its claim before the ICSID Hearing or should the ICSID Hearing go ahead as scheduled the payment terms from the verdict decided upon from the ICSID including the totality of fines and sanctions that are handed down (2-3 months post hearing).
IMO the USA has already stipulated to the DRC and Rwanda they need to sign a Peace Deal asap before the USA will sign off on any Minerals deal. The Declaration of Principles which they both signed was a significant step they both signed for peace and prosperity in their regions More recently both regions submitted their terms to the USA administration for the Peace deal suggesting these ISSUES are of extreme importance.
The compelling date for the DRC, more importantly, is very soon (before June), not in a couple of months, so this is becoming very urgent for them and they seem to be moving quickly, with very good reason.
In President Trumps's first 100 days he suspended the payment of $4M in international AID to the DRC and Rwanda and said he would review this over the next 3 months. Well that time is about now so the USA is also using this as leverage.
If the price being paid to AVZ is going to come from USA financial sources or investment companies there is every reason for the DRC to get a settlement done with AVZ asap. The total investment being discussed with the USA including the Lobito corridor and other Mining projects for copper, cobalt, uranium and many other critical minerals on the USA agenda put the payout to AVZ as being relatively small.
Nigel and Piper lawyers are in the USA so we know their presence in country has significance and meetings/ negotiations we can assume are happening to bring about an amicable resolution.
AVZ SHS would all be hoping a settlement announcement is made very soon or we continue with our Claim before the ICSID.
I don’t read the crapper and haven’t for years. I want the case to go to the ICSID, I want all the corrupt arseholes to be exposed, held accountable and publicly shamed. We have fought off the corrupt actors involved for three years, finally something is imminent (the ICSID case starting in less than a month) and we are in the strongest position we have been in during all that time.
The US is not just desperate for critical minerals, it’s desperate for Manono, and the DRC is desperate to get US help. The DRC is so desperate, every day they are spinning shit about how they are transparent, cleaning up corruption and a great place to invest. We know they are liars and they are more desperate than us now even in spite of their delusion.
Nigel will do whatever ever he thinks is best, but I personally don’t want to have wasted the last three years defending the company against all the corrupt stooges and posting hundreds of pages and multiple threads of information and then not see it through one last month to the ICSID exposing all the lying, corrupt, embezzling arseholes.
View attachment 83986
P.S. I don’t believe all the recent bullshit and gag orders by the usual sources. If an offer is made and accepted before the ICSID many shareholders will be happy, but as @Samus has pointed out many times, we’ve heard the same bullshit for three years and I don’t believe a bar of it either
lellep
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Holy Fuck
DiscoDanNZ
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I just saw DEBOSS' tweet of the above and came here hoping for info as I've been in hiding from here for awhile and out of the loop, looks like the news is just as fresh here too. Guess we will hear from AVZ early today?
lellep
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