It's out of our hands all we can do is trust our BOD to bring this home , you know where I live , Chindos , nobody here trusts them"ALL disputes are sorted on the courthouse steps at the last second"
Times 100 for the Chinese, every time.
$2? Is jcar trying to soften up us holders for one last rogering?
I think since the purported low ball offer got rejected they will wait and see what appropriate compensation means and then potentially offer something more substantial.So what do make of the "appropriately compensated" statement ? Or the $1.5Bill + Royalties leak? Does the US/West already have enough info to know how the ICSID will pan out ? Would DLA Piper brief them on case details ? Is the ICSID time frame and subsequent Valuation worth the the journey ? Would AVZ's Court victories so far, along with the DRC's attempts to avoid the ICSID (unpaid fees /objection to Jurisdiction) be noted ? Add to all that the DRC Ministers/Officials /Presidents being exposed ? I have my doubts the US/DRC need to wait for an ICSID verdict . IMO
After all my years in business , construction , hotels , motels , ANY and ALL disputes are sorted on the courthouse steps at the last second , because it's still business till then , lets see what what happens over the following weeks .
I could be missing some reference or joke here, if so, sucks to be me...$2? Is jcar trying to soften up us holders for one last rogering?
I could be missing some reference or joke here, if so, sucks to be me...
but perhaps some investors have been misled as to what kind of compensation or sale price we might end up with.
When I think of the calls for $12 and so on, I know it's being said with bravado... but perhaps other investors have been believing these claims to have some merit.
My ear isn't as close to the ground as some, but I doubt we will get even $2.
I think we will be fortunate if it's above $1, and even then still not getting a CGT discount, nor a cost base tax reduction.
It's completely pointless to quote what Manono is worth, when demanding what we should get paid.
Shareholders should be aware of one thing only when it comes to any sort of payout.
And that thing is simply... What can we get for it?
A thing is only valued at what anyone is willing to pay for it.
And while ISCID is on our side, to go full nut down that avenue means years of turmoil and expense, for a completely unknown payout likely 10 years from now. if at all
There is no bravado or leverage in claiming "FULL VALUE OR FULL ISCID ROUTE!!! [FLEX]"
Going full ISCID is a fucking disaster.
I fully trust the BOD to deliver the best value we can possibly get, whether that's a few cents per share, or a few dollars per share.
These claims of "$X or else FULL ISCID" are pure fantasy.
I don't mean to burst anyones bubble, truly I don't.
I just want everyone to be realistic.
*IMHO*
Do you mean like.. lets pretend we wont back down unless we get $12?FFS Azz....
Really????
I could be missing some reference or joke here, if so, sucks to be me...
but perhaps some investors have been misled as to what kind of compensation or sale price we might end up with.
When I think of the calls for $12 and so on, I know it's being said with bravado... but perhaps other investors have been believing these claims to have some merit.
My ear isn't as close to the ground as some, but I doubt we will get even $2.
I think we will be fortunate if it's above $1, and even then still not getting a CGT discount, nor a cost base tax reduction.
It's completely pointless to quote what Manono is worth, when demanding what we should get paid.
Shareholders should be aware of one thing only when it comes to any sort of payout.
And that thing is simply... What can we get for it?
A thing is only valued at what anyone is willing to pay for it.
And while ISCID is on our side, to go full nut down that avenue means years of turmoil and expense, for a completely unknown payout likely 10 years from now. if at all
There is no bravado or leverage in claiming "FULL VALUE OR FULL ISCID ROUTE!!! [FLEX]"
Going full ISCID is a fucking disaster.
I fully trust the BOD to deliver the best value we can possibly get, whether that's a few cents per share, or a few dollars per share.
These claims of "$X or else FULL ISCID" are pure fantasy.
I don't mean to burst anyones bubble, truly I don't.
I just want everyone to be realistic.
*IMHO*
I think since the purported low ball offer got rejected they will wait and see what appropriate compensation means and then potentially offer something more substantial.
Just my thoughts, I look forward to ICSID putting the squeeze on. It doesn't seem like DRC give a fuck about it but it will potentially give us a way to claw back some money off the grubs.
I've got nfi what will happen but going by what hasn't happened so far I'm not holding my breath for a deal in the short term.
Why don't you just let the BOD sort things out?Do you mean like.. lets pretend we wont back down unless we get $12?
Mate it's not going to do anything but give people false hope.
Lol, ok rage machine...Why don't you just let the BOD sort things out?
They do have more knowledge about what is going on than you pretend to have.
Where did you derive your fucking knowledge? Reading the toilet paper roll while having a crap?
Sorry to be so cruel, but while you had your ear close to the ground did a steam roller just went over your noggin?
FFS, you blow more smoke out of your arse than Mount Agung on a good day.
Never have seen so much crap, did you eat magic mushrooms?
I've probably overstepped in my previous response.Why don't you just let the BOD sort things out?
They do have more knowledge about what is going on than you pretend to have.
Where did you derive your fucking knowledge? Reading the toilet paper roll while having a crap?
Sorry to be so cruel, but while you had your ear close to the ground did a steam roller just went over your noggin?
FFS, you blow more smoke out of your arse than Mount Agung on a good day.
Never have seen so much crap, did you eat magic mushrooms?
I hold a similar target of $1-2, regardless of true value. For no other reason than tempering expectations keeps me sane lol.I could be missing some reference or joke here, if so, sucks to be me...
but perhaps some investors have been misled as to what kind of compensation or sale price we might end up with.
When I think of the calls for $12 and so on, I know it's being said with bravado... but perhaps other investors have been believing these claims to have some merit.
My ear isn't as close to the ground as some, but I doubt we will get even $2.
I think we will be fortunate if it's above $1, and even then still not getting a CGT discount, nor a cost base tax reduction.
It's completely pointless to quote what Manono is worth, when demanding what we should get paid.
Shareholders should be aware of one thing only when it comes to any sort of payout.
And that thing is simply... What can we get for it?
A thing is only valued at what anyone is willing to pay for it.
And while ISCID is on our side, to go full nut down that avenue means years of turmoil and expense, for a completely unknown payout likely 10 years from now. if at all
There is no bravado or leverage in claiming "FULL VALUE OR FULL ISCID ROUTE!!! [FLEX]"
Going full ISCID is a fucking disaster.
I fully trust the BOD to deliver the best value we can possibly get, whether that's a few cents per share, or a few dollars per share.
These claims of "$X or else FULL ISCID" are pure fantasy.
I don't mean to burst anyones bubble, truly I don't.
I just want everyone to be realistic.
*IMHO*
Thank god you’re not on Nigel’s negotiation team.I could be missing some reference or joke here, if so, sucks to be me...
but perhaps some investors have been misled as to what kind of compensation or sale price we might end up with.
When I think of the calls for $12 and so on, I know it's being said with bravado... but perhaps other investors have been believing these claims to have some merit.
My ear isn't as close to the ground as some, but I doubt we will get even $2.
I think we will be fortunate if it's above $1, and even then still not getting a CGT discount, nor a cost base tax reduction.
It's completely pointless to quote what Manono is worth, when demanding what we should get paid.
Shareholders should be aware of one thing only when it comes to any sort of payout.
And that thing is simply... What can we get for it?
A thing is only valued at what anyone is willing to pay for it.
And while ISCID is on our side, to go full nut down that avenue means years of turmoil and expense, for a completely unknown payout likely 10 years from now. if at all
There is no bravado or leverage in claiming "FULL VALUE OR FULL ISCID ROUTE!!! [FLEX]"
Going full ISCID is a fucking disaster.
I fully trust the BOD to deliver the best value we can possibly get, whether that's a few cents per share, or a few dollars per share.
These claims of "$X or else FULL ISCID" are pure fantasy.
I don't mean to burst anyones bubble, truly I don't.
I just want everyone to be realistic.
*IMHO*
I am not angry at your post, but just gobsmacked about the stupidity of uninformed people without any real knowledge, other than feeling their plums, saying what is an acceptable value for AVZ shares.I've probably overstepped in my previous response.
Are you an investor who has believed all the posts about $10 and the $12 Zijin tax people?
Your anger at my post might be proving my point.