AVZ Discussion 2022

[Spikerama]

Not defending the Putin meme, as I think its clear who trump works for and its certainly not Putin, Ive never seen Trump put a chair under Putins bum, nor did he send him $14b in his first 40days in office as he did to Israel, nor has he made it illegal to be anti-russian as he has anti-semitic, nor has he labelled speech against the Russian conflict anti-russian as he has speech against genocide by calling it anti-semitic, but yeah if a criminal indirectly makes you money it doesnt mean you need to agree with all his actions, just my observation

I don't give a fuck what you think Yassen. You've obviously got a big chip on your shoulder about something and simply don't know when to keep your mouth shut.

Give it up. It's not about you. It's about keeping a really tight ship as we move forward because we are at a very critical stage now and the one thing we don't want to do is piss of an administration whose leader is just as likely to cut you off real quick because he doesn't like the way you talk, you don't wear suit or you made him feel bad by hurting his feelings.

And don't say 'As if anyone outside of here is ever going to see that or take notice blah blah blah." We know full well there are people here who pounce on the chance to amplify what's said and try to derail us.

Just don't. It's not worth it for the 3 lols or likes you get.

 

[Rechnerhand]

"US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo"

- Orion Resource Partners
- Robert Friedland
- Rio Tinto
- United Mining

Published April 6 2025
US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo

 

[Winenut]

Great time for US buy-out.

$1.50 AUD per share, roughly equivalent to $3,175B USD.

Just sayin'.

Wash your mouth out!!!

 

[Winenut]

Yeah youre right..

I blame it on the nut

Jesus @Winenut whatya doing.

?????

 

[Winenut]

Ohhhhh......

Was it the gimp joke

 

[Flight996]

Here's a clean URL for the FT article, "US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo":

https://archive.md/wHAwR

Cheers
F

 

[Rechnerhand]

"US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo"

- Orion Resource Partners
- Robert Friedland
- Rio Tinto
- United Mining

Published April 6 2025
US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo

US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo Trump’s Africa adviser agrees ‘path forward’ to drive American mining investment as Tshisekedi government seeks to shore up support Workers at the Tenke Fungurume copper and cobalt mine in DR Congo © Emmet Livingstone/AFP/Getty Images US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo on x (opens in a new window) US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo on facebook (opens in a new window) US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo on linkedin (opens in a new window) Save current progress 0% William Wallis, Leslie Hook and Camilla Hodgson in London Published YESTERDAY 35 Print this page Unlock the White House Watch newsletter for free Your guide to what the 2024 US election means for Washington and the world The US is closing on a deal with the Democratic Republic of Congo that would see American companies take more control of critical mineral assets in return for greater backing for the embattled Kinshasa government. US President Donald Trump’s newly appointed Africa adviser Massad Boulos said he had seen the outlines of the deal and had agreed a “path forward” with DR Congo’s President Felix Tshisekedi. The agreement would foster “US private sector investment in the DR Congo, particularly in the mining sector”, Boulos added in a video statement released by the DR Congo government. Under the outlines of the agreement, the US International Development Finance Corporation would underwrite some of the US investments in the central African nation, said Joseph Szlavik, a Washington-based lobbyist who is advising the Congolese government. The companies that would be drawn in under the new framework are not exclusively American, but US businesses would begin investing in DR Congo’s lithium and the agreement would go some way towards countering Chinese dominance of the country’s abundant copper and cobalt resources. The Bill Gates-backed mining and artificial intelligence start-up KoBold Metals is among those eyeing the huge but legally disputed Manono lithium deposit. Other companies considering involvement are US-based Orion Resource Partners, US-Canadian mining investor Robert Friedland, British-Australian miner Rio Tinto and Saudi Arabia’s United Mining, said people familiar with the talks. KoBold, Orion and Rio Tinto declined to comment. Friedland and United did not respond to requests for comment. Other assets under discussion include the copper and cobalt assets controlled by Dubai-based Chemaf, a company backed by Singapore’s Trafigura. Chemaf has been up for sale since 2023 and is looking for a new buyer after a sale to China’s Norinco fell through due to opposition from Congo’s Gécamines. Chemaf declined to comment. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Newly appointed Africa adviser Massad Boulos, left, with Donald Trump © Julia Demaree Nikhinson/AP DR Congo, which has vast supplies of copper, cobalt, coltan, tin and uranium, first approached the US in February with a proposal offering mining rights in exchange for support for the government, according to public documents. The proposal comes at a time when Washington is pushing for an expanded minerals deal in Ukraine. But it remains unclear in DR Congo’s case what US involvement in reinforcing security would look like. The security landscape in DR Congo is vastly different to Ukraine’s, as in addition to direct conflict with the Rwandan-backed M23 rebels, there are more than 140 armed groups active in the east of Congo. Nevertheless, Congolese officials hope to use the deal to shore up backing for Tshisekedi as he struggles to contain the M23 uprising. The rebels have captured swaths of mineral rich territory and eastern DR Congo’s two largest cities, Goma and Bukavu. Before leaving Kinshasa on Friday for talks over the weekend with Kenyan President William Ruto, Uganda’s Yoweri Museveni and Rwanda’s Paul Kagame, Boulos said: “We seek a lasting peace that affirms the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the DR Congo and lays the foundations for a thriving regional economy.” Szlavik, who was speaking from Kinshasa, said the US had already helped broker an agreement that led to Rwandan-backed insurgents withdrawing from an area near the Alphamin Resources’ tin mine in eastern Congo. Alphamin is majority-owned by US-based Denham Capital. The mine and surrounding area contributed nearly 10 per cent of global tin production last year and its capture led to a rise in tin prices and a drop in Alphamin’s share price. In return for withdrawing, the DR Congo government agreed to halt drone attacks on rebels in the area. Alphamin declined to comment. Rwanda denies UN and western government reports that it is backing and arming the M23 rebels in part to exploit the abundance of minerals in DR Congo. But Szlavik said Washington was under no illusions about Rwandan involvement. The DR Congo minerals deal talks and the involvement of Boulos — whose son Michael is married to Trump’s daughter Tiffany — in negotiations would send a strong signal to regional governments about how seriously the US takes Congolese sovereignty. “If you lie, you are talking to the big man’s . . . in-law. The president of the US will finally hear directly about what is going on. It is an opportunity to get some chaos organised,” said Szlavik. He added that there was already a huge amount of informal trade, including minerals smuggling, taking place on DR Congo’s eastern borders, with armed groups exploiting the instability for profit. “The US is saying why don’t we build roads instead of buying arms and make a regional plan of how everyone can do business,” said Szlavik. This could involve the creation of an industrial zone in Congo that would export processed metals via its neighbours, said others in Washington familiar with the talks. But in comparison with the minerals deal the US is pushing for with Ukraine, the DR Congo one remains sketchy, said some Washington-based Africa experts. Boulos’s meetings with Museveni in Uganda and Kagame in Rwanda in the coming days are key barriers as, given their military strength on DR Congo’s borders and their involvement with proxies, both leaders’ tacit support is critical to any deal working out. Additional reporting by James Politi in Washington

 

[Retrobyte]

Not defending the Putin meme, as I think its clear who trump works for and its certainly not Putin, Ive never seen Trump put a chair under Putins bum, nor did he send him $14b in his first 40days in office as he did to Israel, nor has he made it illegal to be anti-russian as he has anti-semitic, nor has he labelled speech against the Russian conflict anti-russian as he has speech against genocide by calling it anti-semitic, but yeah if a criminal indirectly makes you money it doesnt mean you need to agree with all his actions, just my observation

Dude, every post of yours has a veiled reference to anti-semitic stuff or what the West has done to the Muslims. Just stick to discussing AVZ please. It's not that fucking hard.

 

[Retrobyte]

Here's a clean URL for the FT article, "US closes in on critical minerals deal with DR Congo":

https://archive.md/wHAwR

Cheers
F

The Saudis have arrived. Bring it on!

 

[Mute22]

No it doesnt and nor is it anti-semitic to call out lies and genocide just because its done by a jew. I have some jewish blood in my myself, so cut the crap. Im calling a spade a spade, and I've only brought it up in context to others posts, so save the speech and deal with it

If you want to post like it's Hotcrapper, just go over there.

Leave your racial hang-ups at the door and discuss the stock.

 

[JAG]

Remember, all it takes is 3 reports for a post to be removed…….

 

[Mute22]

as opposed to what the Chinese have done to us, or the Congolese, or.....I only provide some balance when others throw their world views in, but many seem so thin skinned and take it personally

Imagine if the majority of this forom were African, Chinese or Trumpian AVZ investor lol, you guys would have half this forums posts removed by now, ppl need to lighten up

 

[Xerof]

1,2,3

 

[BRICK]

Ohhhhh......

Was it the gimp joke

Nah not you nut it was my gimp meme.

 

[JNRB]

The Saudis have arrived. Bring it on!

American security
Aussie miners
Saudi cash.

Sounds like a wining combination

oh and I guess Kobold have something to offer, maybe? Or just more cash

 

[JAG]

Just saw this

 

[Rechnerhand]

These are just my 2 cents ... no value out of my mouth ...

At least 4 names are now known for who are trying to particpate in the Manono-jungle ... alongside official U.S. representatives aka U.S. government.
In parallel the ongoing disputes which makes it obvious in which direction the outcome will be.

In case the "Fantastic 4" are forced to speed up the discussion with DRC officials as they are in turn and a hurry to state their confidence about the M23 movements then I guess we're talking about an involvement for the RD-asset. (Keep in mind that the U.S. already helped the DRC in regards to M23 and the Alphamin Ressource in the north ... )
Everything AVZ can resist and proceed in their ICSID case will help them and the "Fantastic 4" to exceed the upcoming project when their asset is being reassigned to the origin 13359 area.

This is my view to the area where the fruits are in the ground.

Then and in parallel ... DRC stopped to sell raw material as wanted more of the fruits locally which means for our "Fantastic 4" that they have at least 2 options ...
1. Pressure for DRC is that high they will give the "Fantastic 4" a special permit to deliver raw material to e.g. the U.S. for further added value making which helps for sure Mr. MAGA. On the other side DRC is aware of this win-win situation and will get from my perspective a higher value in military support and/or in infrastructure. That is in so called short term (before ICSID decision) and finally only for RD area.
2. In the 2nd scenario, the raw material must remain in the country and be processed, which means that our “Fantastic 4” will have to think about the corresponding infrastructure on site in the medium term (without ICSID and only RD), which in my view would help the DRC much more. However, if the pressure of securing material is the main focus for Mr. MAGA, then that would also be a conceivable scenario.

Why to mention this?

This leads to the final questions to the “Fantastic 4”
- how to bring (processed/raw) material to port?
- How to get access to adequate energy?

These 2 questions are just present in my head as the group size just makes sense when there're more then just digging acctivities which are pretty easy to handle as being on surface.
So, my thinking as these "Fantastic 4” represents a kind of Dathcom 2.0 that some will focus on the energy topic, one to the transport and others to the processing/raw material ... and do not forget the Tin!


And everything above will getting even more interesting when ICSID case is closed before (hand over ML to Dathcom) or has a final outcome in favour of AVZ.

This is just my thinking ... which changes from time to time and represents a snapshot.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Saudi cash

 

[Carlos Danger]

“Fantastic 4”

Same energy

 

[CashKing]

These are just my 2 cents ... no value out of my mouth ...

At least 4 names are now known for who are trying to particpate in the Manono-jungle ... alongside official U.S. representatives aka U.S. government.
In parallel the ongoing disputes which makes it obvious in which direction the outcome will be.

In case the "Fantastic 4" are forced to speed up the discussion with DRC officials as they are in turn and a hurry to state their confidence about the M23 movements then I guess we're talking about an involvement for the RD-asset. (Keep in mind that the U.S. already helped the DRC in regards to M23 and the Alphamin Ressource in the north ... )
Everything AVZ can resist and proceed in their ICSID case will help them and the "Fantastic 4" to exceed the upcoming project when their asset is being reassigned to the origin 13359 area.

This is my view to the area where the fruits are in the ground.

Then and in parallel ... DRC stopped to sell raw material as wanted more of the fruits locally which means for our "Fantastic 4" that they have at least 2 options ...
1. Pressure for DRC is that high they will give the "Fantastic 4" a special permit to deliver raw material to e.g. the U.S. for further added value making which helps for sure Mr. MAGA. On the other side DRC is aware of this win-win situation and will get from my perspective a higher value in military support and/or in infrastructure. That is in so called short term (before ICSID decision) and finally only for RD area.
2. In the 2nd scenario, the raw material must remain in the country and be processed, which means that our “Fantastic 4” will have to think about the corresponding infrastructure on site in the medium term (without ICSID and only RD), which in my view would help the DRC much more. However, if the pressure of securing material is the main focus for Mr. MAGA, then that would also be a conceivable scenario.

Why to mention this?

This leads to the final questions to the “Fantastic 4”
- how to bring (processed/raw) material to port?
- How to get access to adequate energy?

These 2 questions are just present in my head as the group size just makes sense when there're more then just digging acctivities which are pretty easy to handle as being on surface.
So, my thinking as these "Fantastic 4” represents a kind of Dathcom 2.0 that some will focus on the energy topic, one to the transport and others to the processing/raw material ... and do not forget the Tin!


And everything above will getting even more interesting when ICSID case is closed before (hand over ML to Dathcom) or has a final outcome in favour of AVZ.

This is just my thinking ... which changes from time to time and represents a snapshot.

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