AVZ Discussion 2022
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Frank
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LOCKY82
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Just read up on that bidding war, good result in the end it seems. There's a way for this to go could be very interesting see what happens between now and the hearing date. Maybe these players won't want the case to start and are positioning now?
Wow had a day off the forums yesterday and just done a catch up. Yesterday after @mute 22 put up the article in "The Australian " lots of angst and negativity. This morning much more positive i think
Not sure who Brad Thompson is or where he sourced the $ 1.5 B USD figure but there certainally was nothing said confirming his source of this figure.
We have no real idea of what the " royalty " entails but for all we know the $1.5 B lowball could be to reduce tax implications to DRC with a very attractive "royalty" which could make this in fact a very good deal. Point is we really have no idea and everything for now is speculation
Suprisingly no one seems to be focussing on the meeting on Tueday of Special Envoy Boulos, Kobold chief Kurt House and the fat boy himself. To me this is the most exciting thing for sure.
Kobold tied to US security seems to me most likely way forward. I do find it hard to see how Rio could enter in to the project with a stand alone offer and satisfy Felixs want for M23 resolution. Much more likely Kobold/Rio partnership
Anyway looking forward to Tuesday
Not sure who Brad Thompson is or where he sourced the $ 1.5 B USD figure but there certainally was nothing said confirming his source of this figure.
We have no real idea of what the " royalty " entails but for all we know the $1.5 B lowball could be to reduce tax implications to DRC with a very attractive "royalty" which could make this in fact a very good deal. Point is we really have no idea and everything for now is speculation
Suprisingly no one seems to be focussing on the meeting on Tueday of Special Envoy Boulos, Kobold chief Kurt House and the fat boy himself. To me this is the most exciting thing for sure.
Kobold tied to US security seems to me most likely way forward. I do find it hard to see how Rio could enter in to the project with a stand alone offer and satisfy Felixs want for M23 resolution. Much more likely Kobold/Rio partnership
Anyway looking forward to Tuesday
Bin59
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Brad Thompson who is currently a reporter for the Australian, previously worked as a journalist for the Australian Financial Review, leaving them just 6 months ago,
He's probably making sh1t up to yank our chain . Could have been Tommy's bum chum for all we know .
Samus
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Way I see it, we can start talking at $5b USD. Royalties sounds like something as well.
I'd like to see us get some additional billions out of zijin, they can either pay fair and square or we sue the fuck out of them. It's all the same to me with the later infinitely more satisfying.
No compromise should be made in that regard.
I'd like to see us get some additional billions out of zijin, they can either pay fair and square or we sue the fuck out of them. It's all the same to me with the later infinitely more satisfying.
No compromise should be made in that regard.
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Carlos Danger
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It’s the same reporter that broke the original story that Trump administration wants AVZ to get paid in any deal for Manono
None of y’all were questioning his sources then lol
The 1.5b is extremely believable and on brand for KoBold. The real question is why on earth would Nigel be considering this enough to send representatives to the meeting. Would need to be the greatest royalty deal of all time, possibly ever, to get my vote.
If we are sending reps means Felix is up for it and this is not pie in the sky . April 10 anyone ? I'll go out on a limb here . This deal is baking in the oven as we speak . Maybe a sweetener to come ? Another $500mil -$Bil USD+ and the royalties . The royalties will be the kicker that brings it home . Felix needs a security deal . Manono has to be a Trump deal .IMO
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Flexi
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All offers coming now will be way below the true value of the resource. It is as expected. They will try and get it as cheap as possible before the IICSD hearing begins. However as we near the start of the case they will up their offers closer to $10 billion because they know if the case begins, not only will the corrupt pricks be exposed, but the minimum starting price will become $10 Billion as they know our chances of winning the case are high. Some people say Congo is broke and cant pay, but who ever wants to mine the good stuff from the ground will first need to pay the fine to us, before they can begin mining.
My realistic expectations (and hope) is for a price around $2 US. But I will be pushing for $12.00 to cover pain suffering AND a public hanging of the GREEN WITCH and FAT LIPS in the Manono town square, this is non negotiable . All in my opinion .
My realistic expectations (and hope) is for a price around $2 US. But I will be pushing for $12.00 to cover pain suffering AND a public hanging of the GREEN WITCH and FAT LIPS in the Manono town square, this is non negotiable . All in my opinion .
Winenut
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Personally I'm not super excited about royalties
I want the cash up front and FUCK being tied to anything happening in the DRC
That fucking place is a basket case and I don't want the value inherent in my shares paid "on the drip" by royalties with the chance that those DRC cunts pull some more fucking "fun and games" and "paper bag diplomacy" potentially fucking my financial future for a second time
I want the cash up front and FUCK being tied to anything happening in the DRC
That fucking place is a basket case and I don't want the value inherent in my shares paid "on the drip" by royalties with the chance that those DRC cunts pull some more fucking "fun and games" and "paper bag diplomacy" potentially fucking my financial future for a second time
Spikerama
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Thing is mate, your vote and mine will not have very much sway. The T20 own more than half the register, so it will come down to those who have hundreds of millions of shares and what they want in the end.
If I had that many shares, some of these lowball figures wouldn't sound too bad.
BRICK
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BRICK
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Or there is a civil war or war with Rawanda
Mates a Journo. Simply asked about weather the pricing bit was pure speculation or source based.
Retrobyte
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If it goes down this way then you'd still have your shares and can sell them if you don't want to hold onto them to get future royalties. How the black market prices that is another story of course!
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