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Pokok

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Tomorrow is Australia Day , so I will celebrate the day with my Indonesian wife , my half cast kids , my best mate Abo Steve ,my kids partner a pommy , at our local lebo resto , now that is Australia
 
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I changed the B to an F on my bucket list , I feel so much better now :LOL::LOL:
 
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Winenut

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I think the window of opportunity for Felix to correct his miscalculation, in regards of AVZ, could very well close and the case could backfire on him.
The window will not remain open indefinitely.

The DRC, being landlocked, in that case could well have problems to ship Lithium, Lithium products, or any other product out of the DRC, without ramifications.

Felix has to remember the ICSID is not a toothless tiger.
I don't know if Felix wishes to test the strength of the ICSID and the effect it could have on the DRC economy.
The DRC isn't land locked......but not by much

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana,_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo
 
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Winenut

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Nice clear image of what I think is the fairly current state of Camp Colline

Remember that place?

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The DRC is slightly snookered with Port of Banana.

Port of Banana to Manono by road is in excess of 3,500 km. No rail connection.

To explain that, Perth to Melbourne by road is 3,500 km. There is also a rail connection between Perth and Melbourne.

There is of course the Congo river, however I didn't bother looking at that, other than cars to Port of Banana have to cross the Congo river at Matadi, they always could use the port of Matadi. ;);), nudge, nudge.
 
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The DRC is slightly snookered with Port of Banana.

Port of Banana to Manono by road is in excess of 3,500 km. No rail connection.

To explain that, Perth to Melbourne by road is 3,500 km. There is also a rail connection between Perth and Melbourne.

There is of course the Congo river, however I didn't bother looking at that, other than cars to Port of Banana have to cross the Congo river at Matadi, they always could use the port of Matadi. ;);), nudge, nudge.

GENERAL DESCRIPTION​

Location: Banana lies on the N bank and almost at the mouth of the of the Congo River (Zaire River).
General overview: The port is used for handling general cargoes and also oil cargoes, by STS (ship to ship) transfer at the anchorage for the refinery. Traffic figures: Approx 50 vessels and 10,100t of cargo handled annually.
Load line zone: Tropical. Max size: Banana Anchorage: LOA 190m (up to 250m accepted with prior consent from harbour master), draught 11.0m FW.
Alongside: LOA 125m, draught 5.4m.

So alongside will be able to take a barge, but not a serious ocean going vessel.
Just so the nut understands, Outer Harbour max draught is 14m and the larger vessels have to wait for high tide to refloat.

Having a ship on the anchorage with a max draught of 11m and loading with shuttle barges is another hurdle.

Might as well first spend some money on Inga 3 as a smarter alternative.
 
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Xerof

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GENERAL DESCRIPTION​

Location: Banana lies on the N bank and almost at the mouth of the of the Congo River (Zaire River).
General overview: The port is used for handling general cargoes and also oil cargoes, by STS (ship to ship) transfer at the anchorage for the refinery. Traffic figures: Approx 50 vessels and 10,100t of cargo handled annually.
Load line zone: Tropical. Max size: Banana Anchorage: LOA 190m (up to 250m accepted with prior consent from harbour master), draught 11.0m FW.
Alongside: LOA 125m, draught 5.4m.

So alongside will be able to take a barge, but not a serious ocean going vessel.
Just so the nut understands, Outer Harbour max draught is 14m and the larger vessels have to wait for high tide to refloat.

Having a ship on the anchorage with a max draught of 11m and loading with shuttle barges is another hurdle.

Might as well first spend some money on Inga 3 as a smarter alternative.
Yes it's a long way from Manono totally agree. Dar es Salaam is about 2000km so defintely closer

The planned development by DP World significantly increases the capability

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https://www.dpworld.com/news/releas...ark-the-start-of-construction-of-banana-port/

It's just possible options and it's the only route that is wholly within the DRC and doesn't require transport through neighbouring countries

Just interesting stuff and a bit of info

Not much else going on at the moment.... :rolleyes:
 
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Winenut

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Yes it's a long way from Manono totally agree. Dar es Salaam is about 2000km so defintely closer

The planned development by DP World significantly increases the capability

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https://www.dpworld.com/news/releas...ark-the-start-of-construction-of-banana-port/

It's just possible options and it's the only route that is wholly within the DRC and doesn't require transport through neighbouring countries

Just interesting stuff and a bit of info

Not much else going on at the moment.... :rolleyes:s
I might crack a shiraz tonight, waiting for next court updates.
Don't expect any DRC changes, they are busy sorting a new government.
 
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Xerof

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I might crack a shiraz tonight, waiting for next court updates.
Don't expect any DRC changes, they are busy sorting a new government.

FMD, I crack a Shiraz every night🤣🤣

Except when Margaritas get in the way🫤🫤
 
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