AVZ Discussion 2022

[Der Geist]

I wouldn’t take his bait, his checking you out.
Overall like some here, I see your multiple aliases as actually just working out where the truth is and it has been overwhelming. The Cong association is worrisome however what did you mean last year on these threads, by helping Cong?

Inviting him to share more on where things were at and to verify claims him a his lawyer stated. Any shareholder worth their salt in a risky jurisdiction should be doing the same.

Why does Bhags think I have anything on AVZ that would be useful. Obviously I am just as clueless as Flight966 says.

It’s worth recalling how much AVZ was in denial leading up to the May 4 announcement to understand that there was a question of how much was being hidden. Hidden in your favour or not? Moneybhags would like to think ‘not’? Good on him. It’s not my style after WFE and it’s why I didn’t get caught in this suspension.
All those who are embittered against me ask yourself should you have listened between April 30 and May 10? It takes time to reflect on errors. This is because of the power of certainty in our psyche.” Makes us sit on a rock and often complacently

 

[Carlos Danger]

Those screenshotted views are consistent with today’s text input above.

Never said it wasn't. Just wanted you to elaborate. Appreciate your detailed response.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Carlos is intelligent

 

[ptlas]

The thing is, I am aware of all that. I am also aware of your constant undermining of AVZ exec’s and BOD and your efforts to encourage a movement against them as well as your efforts encouraging a class action against them.

At the present time we are fighting WITH the company, against a number of corrupt and bribed entities in the DRC and China while YOU continue to undermine us.

No one has forgotten about your relationship with Simon Cong and no one has forgotten about the aliases you use. I’m pretty sure you sold shares then either bought or borrowed more.

One thing is crystal clear, you are not here to support shareholders or AVZ

Well said MB

Could everyone stop asking Der Geist what they think about....?

Just gives them undeserved kudos

 

[cruiser51]

Well said MB

Could everyone stop asking Der Geist what they think about....?

Just gives them undeserved kudos

 

[Carlos Danger]

Could everyone stop asking Der Geist what they think about....?

Thing is @Der Geist brings receipts unlike 99% of people in this shit show. Personally I give zero fucks about his intentions if he can back up what he is saying. My only complaint is I'd rather him stick to one account than this weird Mick Foleyesque multiple angle crap we're getting. Maybe that's a condition of him being back here. It's not a coincidence that multiple posts were moderated concerning him recently and yesterday we all got a reminder of the rules imo

What he has said today only backs up management's decisions about disclosure. Overall he has shown a willingness to change opinions based on new information and I respect that. Especially as someone that crapped on about lions all summer. Although the main reason I did that was to try and take heat off the board that people like him were applying. But it's not like he ever promised us champagne at Christmas 2021 like they did.

 

[BEISHA]

Without prejudice.

I made a draft, and will go over it tomorrow— tomorrow is not far away….

Main take away is, AVZ should not have to arbitrate with Cominiere. This is total bullshit.
How can the MoM talk about “harmony” when the IGF is shouting from the rooftops the defrauding of the State.

Someone made MoM write that, surely.

All this points to how weak the Tshisekedi coalition is. And the Chinese are exploiting it! they are owning the ministers THEY are attempting a coup on a so called sovereign state!

Irony is Yibin wanted AVZ to take control of Dathcom, and this is one of the causes of friction— why isn’t Yibin looking after the brown paper bags???

Chinese have been corroding AVZ’s management all along in my view. Even the hydroxide pivot away from EU to in-country (a country not ready) are all attempts to interfere and undermine confidence in AVZ when all AVZ has to do was start a 2mtpa SC6 facility and slowly but carefully ramp it up. Nigel got that idea right. “Walk before run”

So postponing on Zijjn matter at ICC is very suspicious.

If AVZ got a win against Zijin at ICC that just defuses the whole Congolese drive so the cynical question is, from what other avenue will Zijin et al try to undermine from next.
This is why fighting the Congolese when bombs should dropped on the Chinese embassy is what should really be happening.

Thankyou for the belated reply, nice clear english btw...

Your POV up to this point mirrors my thoughts and plenty of others on this forum.

a) MOM.........." harmony " complete BS, unlawful, a juxtapositition in the backdrop of the IGF report

b) Piss weak Tshisekedi Govt

c) Chinese owning DRC ministers / exploitation / Coup / steal

d) Zijin v AVZ ICC deliberation.............suss as all hell, long drawn out game being applied

So what likely conclusion do you see regards to this long drawn out impasse between AVZ / DRC / CHINA regards to Manono ?

a) Will FT finally bow to the IGF report and the power of the common folk who want to see AVZ construct / produce at RD not ZIJIN...........with a election coming in the next 7 months , intervene and award AVZ the ML and its 100% rights to CDL ?

b) Or, will compromises have to be made from all parties ?

c) Is there a possibility of a TO and with whom ?

d) Or will the long game persist and AVZ gets stripped from Dathcom , told to fuck off , with DRC remaining a slave to China, becoming a pariah state with no international coy wanting to be part of the precedence ?

This topic is the hot potato that everyone has been discussing on this forum in your absence, not AVZ lack of disclosure, which most folk here would admit is suss as all hell and which i am certain will be dealt with if ( D ) comes to fruition....

I get the impression your ear is alot closer to the ground than most of us , so i am eager to know your thoughts.


imo

 

[cruiser51]

Thing is @Der Geist brings receipts unlike 99% of people in this shit show. Personally I give zero fucks about his intentions if he can back up what he is saying. My only complaint is I'd rather him stick to one account than this weird Mick Foleyesque multiple angle crap we're getting. Maybe that's a condition of him being back here. It's not a coincidence that multiple posts were moderated concerning him recently and yesterday we all got a reminder of the rules imo

What he has said today only backs up management's decisions about disclosure. Overall he has shown a willingness to change opinions based on new information and I respect that. Especially as someone that crapped on about lions all summer. Although the main reason I did that was to try and take heat off the board that people like him were applying. But it's not like he ever promised us champagne at Christmas 2021 like they did.

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[Der Geist]

Well said MB

Could everyone stop asking Der Geist what they think about....?

Just gives them undeserved kudos

Agree, a dose of normality is required.

 

[Der Geist]

Is this post of yours a technical cliché or is it how you tried to forge a post of mine last year.

Yes goose, I know how you did it. You might be devious but you’re not as smart as you want people to believe. It’s the slimy underhanded way that you came up with the idea and then carried it out that I’m showing in this post

I know you have brought a few new trolls with you…. Or is it the same ones with new aliases

As far as the evidence, I know even monkeys like you and your new troll mate know I have it

As you wish. Has it occurred to you I don’t have to prove anything to you?

 

[Der Geist]

Thankyou for the belated reply, nice clear english btw...

Your POV up to this point mirrors my thoughts and plenty of others on this forum.

a) MOM.........." harmony " complete BS, unlawful, a juxtapositition in the backdrop of the IGF report

b) Piss weak Tshisekedi Govt

c) Chinese owning DRC ministers / exploitation / Coup / steal

d) Zijin v AVZ ICC deliberation.............suss as all hell, long drawn out game being applied

So what likely conclusion do you see regards to this long drawn out impasse between AVZ / DRC / CHINA regards to Manono ?

a) Will FT finally bow to the IGF report and the power of the common folk who want to see AVZ construct / produce at RD not ZIJIN...........with a election coming in the next 7 months , intervene and award AVZ the ML and its 100% rights to CDL ?

b) Or, will compromises have to be made from all parties ?

c) Is there a possibility of a TO and with whom ?

d) Or will the long game persist and AVZ gets stripped from Dathcom , told to fuck off , with DRC remaining a slave to China, becoming a pariah state with no international coy wanting to be part of the precedence ?

This topic is the hot potato that everyone has been discussing on this forum in your absence, not AVZ lack of disclosure, which most folk here would admit is suss as all hell and which i am certain will be dealt with if ( D ) comes to fruition....

I get the impression your ear is alot closer to the ground than most of us , so i am eager to know your thoughts.


imo

It’s a many pronged fork is all I can fathom.

I have no idea as Flight96 said. I’m worried bankruptcy will dissolve AVZ but before that they sell what asset they have m
The Extensions are still there.

It’s rational to think that the US protects AVZ, the risk is the US wants Manono and doesn’t respect it’s faithful ally

The strange thing is Kinshasa knocked back Fortescue Futures Twiggy in 2020 whatever minister door he knocked on whilst just ignoring AVZ altogether seeking the mining license for himself ‘AVZ can’t get this happening’. Apparently, as I recall, the view was as allegedly relayed to AVZ was that, AVZ has done everything right or not done anything wrong. This is why AVZ was so confident that things are in its favour besides the agitations from Cong and Cominiere. It’s likely why ASIC and ASX didn’t act sooner as well. The spooks were watching.

 

[Panther22]

I think you're being sensitive. This isn't a liberal arts college.

What?

 

[MoneyBags1348]

As you wish. Has it occurred to you I don’t have to prove anything to you?

All your last posts have been trying to prove and defend your comments.

I don’t care less about you trying to prove or defend yourself, but if you want to provide information to Simon Cong and Tom Richardson, and create aliases to post under and go to the lengths of forging one of my posts on this forum last year, I’m just reminding shareholders of what you and your troll cohort’s are capable of

By the way, if you are going to try a slimy underhanded act like forging one of my posts, don’t try and gloss over it or try and cover up the fact, or come up with a bullshit excuse like it was a technical glitch

Try owning up to the fact rather than being gutless, dishonest and devious

 

[Ashlee]

Look, I ain't no prude, I love a good swear, but I prefer that the word KUNT , wasn't used on this forum either, it's really crude and derogatory to women, which many would be viewing here, there are so many other neutral words to use when having a vent.

Just imo

Thank you BEISHA for standing up and calling it out.

Ashlee

 

[TDITD]

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Love it "give those clits the flick"

 

[TDITD]

Our embassy is drinking local beers and chilling out

We are looking at a brewery locally

 

[Der Geist]

All your last posts have been trying to prove and defend your comments.

I don’t care less about you trying to prove or defend yourself, but if you want to provide information to Simon Cong and Tom Richardson, and create aliases to post under and go to the lengths of forging one of my posts on this forum last year, I’m just reminding shareholders of what you and your troll cohort’s are capable of

I think it’s past your bedtime.

 

[Der Geist]

Thank you BEISHA for standing up and calling it out.

Ashlee

It’s sexist and therefore prohibited misconduct under anti-discrimination law.

 

[TDITD]

I think you're being sensitive. This isn't a liberal arts college.

Here fucking here
Bloody hell we are getting wetter by the seconds